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Re: Newport predictions

Postby John L » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:10 pm


Yeah, too right! Which idiot said otherwise? :lol:
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Christies Child » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:25 pm



He's the Manager so what will be...will be.

Doesn't mean that'll get it right...or wrong for that matter.....but if it all goes tits up then their is only one person to blame...... :!: :!: :!:

Very bold to stick with basically Tuesdays' formation.

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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Phil Anderer » Fri Jan 29, 2016 3:35 pm

Christies Child wrote:


He's the Manager so what will be...will be.

Doesn't mean that'll get it right...or wrong for that matter.....but if it all goes tits up then their is only one person to blame...... :!: :!: :!:

Very bold to stick with basically Tuesdays' formation.

:?: :?: :?:


Didn't quite read it that way, just that there would be fewif any changes, and definitely not wholesale ones. He does say something about giving consideration as to how to set up against Newport, so if we're lucky we'll set up to attack. Might depend in part on Jamie & Tom's fitness, as if they're fully up to speed they could start.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Keith » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:50 pm

Phil Anderer wrote:He does say something about giving consideration as to how to set up against Newport, so if we're lucky we'll set up to attack.


Barry said, in the Radio Lancs interview, words to the effect of 'it probably wasn't good for the fans to watch' but as Jim has said previously, it was 'nearly' successful.

It continues to worry me that despite everything being said by the fans, that it is crap to watch, despite the dwindling attendances because the football is crap to watch, despite the players (and management) knowing that it is crap to watch... and it is repeatedly failing, we are going to persevere with the same style?

If we win the next four games 1-0 and end up close to, or in the play off spots, will attendances increase? I'm not convinced they will unless the feedback is positive about how we are playing. So I suppose now the question needs answering, which is more important? Getting fans back or achieving a top half finish?
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Phil Anderer » Fri Jan 29, 2016 4:55 pm

Keith wrote:
Phil Anderer wrote:He does say something about giving consideration as to how to set up against Newport, so if we're lucky we'll set up to attack.


Barry said, in the Radio Lancs interview, words to the effect of 'it probably wasn't good for the fans to watch' but as Jim has said previously, it was 'nearly' successful.

It continues to worry me that despite everything being said by the fans, that it is crap to watch, despite the dwindling attendances because the football is crap to watch, despite the players (and management) knowing that it is crap to watch... and it is repeatedly failing, we are going to persevere with the same style?

If we win the next four games 1-0 and end up close to, or in the play off spots, will attendances increase? I'm not convinced they will unless the feedback is positive about how we are playing. So I suppose now the question needs answering, which is more important? Getting fans back or achieving a top half finish?


Given the budgetary problems, getting fans back has to be more important, as it's the only way the budget can be positively affected. I feel like I'm banging this drum so much the skin's wearing out (at least the air drum kit should arrive next month! 8-) ), but Jim's tactics are possibly (or probably) the biggest impact on his budget, and he needs to see that, desperately.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby John L » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:50 pm

Top half finish is more important, as that is needed to help bring the fans back.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby mrpotatohead » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:59 pm

The interview unfortunately says it all, entertainment is not on the agenda in any way shape or form, never has been really apart from pre season and the early games, our style is all about survival, we will never be a ''good watch'', and it's hardly surprising that the crowds are dwindling, a relegation dogfight by keen young players cannot be contemplated as it may end in relegation, so its a cautious grind, lower mid table, a total waste of time from a fans perspective.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Keith » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:30 pm

Keith wrote:So I suppose now the question needs answering, which is more important? Getting fans back or achieving a top half finish?


Phil Anderer wrote:Given the budgetary problems, getting fans back has to be more important, as it's the only way the budget can be positively affected.


John L wrote:Top half finish is more important, as that is needed to help bring the fans back.


Therein lies the problem. We disagree as to how to get the fans back. Personally, I'd like to see us playing adventurous football, even if we pick up less points as a result. In reality, I think we have the players who are capable of being positive, adventurous AND successful. Trying to grind out 1-0 wins is not what this bunch of players are best at AND it's driving fans away.

Remember when we ripped Crawley to shreds when they were top of the league? We got ahead and just kept going? *sigh*
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby steve mfc » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:22 pm

“Not so long ago we looked at a stat that our subs had scored more goals than anyone in the country.

Well maybe that's because these players should have been in the starting eleven.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby MfcChris » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:33 pm

Despite Jim's lack of entertainment tactics. I will go for 1-0 win
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby parceldave » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:37 pm

Keith wrote:
Keith wrote:So I suppose now the question needs answering, which is more important? Getting fans back or achieving a top half finish?


Phil Anderer wrote:Given the budgetary problems, getting fans back has to be more important, as it's the only way the budget can be positively affected.


John L wrote:Top half finish is more important, as that is needed to help bring the fans back.


Therein lies the problem. We disagree as to how to get the fans back. Personally, I'd like to see us playing adventurous football, even if we pick up less points as a result. In reality, I think we have the players who are capable of being positive, adventurous AND successful. Trying to grind out 1-0 wins is not what this bunch of players are best at AND it's driving fans away.

Remember when we ripped Crawley to shreds when they were top of the league? We got ahead and just kept going? *sigh*


The thing is Keith you said you would like to see us playing adventurous football even if we pick up less points. BUT when we were playing adventurous football and the players were enjoying themselves we were also winning . So why bladdy well change . :evil:
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Blackpool Shrimp » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:47 pm

Entertaining football and losing gets you relegated
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby outsider » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:20 pm

Mrs O is going 2-1 Shrimp. I am expecting a positive reaction and so will again go 4-1 Shrimps.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby shrimpnsave » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:22 pm

I Will wait for the roll call...............
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Aspers » Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:35 pm

3-1 Us.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Jettyson » Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:03 pm

1-0 win.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby steve mfc » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:44 am

A somewhat optimistic 2-0
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Keith » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:15 am

Blackpool Shrimp wrote:Entertaining football and losing gets you relegated
What a joke


Entertaining football and winning, gets the crowds back. We've had some fantastic games this season, such as Carlisle away, where we won 3-2 and the Carlisle manager said the score flattered them.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby KenH » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:06 am

John L wrote:Top half finish is more important, as that is needed to help bring the fans back.


Don't see that at all. Unless we're in a promotion push or relegation battle, I don't thin k it matters where we are mid-table. I really can't see any fans thinking that they'll come and watch Morecambe because we always end up in 12th position. They'll come if the game is worth watching, they'll come to see a relegation scrap, they'll come to see a promotion push. I really don't see they'll come to watch boring hoofball or draws just because we're in the top half of the table.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby KenH » Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:10 am

Keith wrote:which is more important? Getting fans back or achieving a top half finish?


Managers in business don't have the luxury of only having one target. They have a mix of targets to achieve and have to juggle their resources to do the best they can, across the business.

MFC is no different. Both on and off the pitch, the management shouldn't be so blinkered to only have one target to achieve. We all know they have limited resources, so do most businesses, so they have to think smarter to make the best use possible of their resources.

If the football is better to watch, we'll stop the rot of declining numbers and may even get a few more coming down. Grinding out the same old crap, just to keep in the top half of the table does bugger all for the crowd numbers.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Teams like Morecambe » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:15 am

It's a bit windy! Play Mesut Devitt, keep the ball on the deck and it will be a comprehensive, entertaining 3-1 victory :D
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby John L » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:17 am

KenH wrote:
John L wrote:Top half finish is more important, as that is needed to help bring the fans back.


Don't see that at all. Unless we're in a promotion push or relegation battle, I don't thin k it matters where we are mid-table. I really can't see any fans thinking that they'll come and watch Morecambe because we always end up in 12th position. They'll come if the game is worth watching, they'll come to see a relegation scrap, they'll come to see a promotion push. I really don't see they'll come to watch boring hoofball or draws just because we're in the top half of the table.

I imagine many people who aren't watching us will look at where we are in the table and judge how good we are on that before deciding whether to come and watch us. Keith said "top half" which I see as anywhere between 1st and 12th as opposed to bottom half being anywhere between 13th and 24th, and not just top half meaning scraping 12th as you imply.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby Phil Anderer » Sat Jan 30, 2016 11:36 am

John L wrote:
KenH wrote:
John L wrote:Top half finish is more important, as that is needed to help bring the fans back.


Don't see that at all. Unless we're in a promotion push or relegation battle, I don't thin k it matters where we are mid-table. I really can't see any fans thinking that they'll come and watch Morecambe because we always end up in 12th position. They'll come if the game is worth watching, they'll come to see a relegation scrap, they'll come to see a promotion push. I really don't see they'll come to watch boring hoofball or draws just because we're in the top half of the table.

I imagine many people who aren't watching us will look at where we are in the table and judge how good we are on that before deciding whether to come and watch us. Keith said "top half" which I see as anywhere between 1st and 12th as opposed to bottom half being anywhere between 13th and 24th, and not just top half meaning scraping 12th as you imply.


Agree top half is in principle anywhere from 1st to 12th, but I would read it as if you're saying "top half" as opposed to "playoffs" or "automatic promotion", then realistically you're talking 8th to 12th. That's how I read it, hence my response. If we were challenging for promotion then we would get fans coming, but to do that we want to be winning more games, especially at home. Go out to win and that might happen.
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Re: Newport predictions

Postby shrimpnsave » Sat Jan 30, 2016 2:59 pm

2-1
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