O/T Accrington owner Andy Holt asked to explain fast food

[MFC-Manc]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43617974

Accrington Stanley owner Andy Holt says he "reserves the right" to buy his players a burger following victories after the English Football League questioned the arrangement.

Holt said he gives the team £200 to get "McDonald's or the like" if they win - otherwise they pay for their own meal.

[Christies Child]

...and no doubt his company pays for that crap stuff served up by McDonalds and goes down as entertainment in his company's statement of accounts.

I wouldn't feed my cats on that crap let alone professional footballers...

[John L]

That's how to keep Billy Kee at the club!

[Posh]

I wish we had an owner like this though.

Appreciate the effort people like Mike Hinchcliffe, Rod and others are putting in but the likes of PMG and others I’ve no idea what they do other than hang around for a payout.

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[Rod Taylor]

I wish we had an owner like this though.

Appreciate the effort people like Mike Hinchcliffe is putting in but the likes of PMG and others I’ve no idea what they do other than hang around for a payout.

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Posh, I post on behalf of, and to defend most of my colleagues on the BOD here. Your comment about hanging around for a payout is rude, misinformed and bang out of order! How do you think wages have been paid on some occasions over the past year? Do you have any idea of the amount of time and money some of us support the football club with? Without the input and support of these individuals through the difficult times we have encountered over the past couple of years we would not have a club now. Don't have a go at the majority of the BOD for historic cock-ups. I usually refrain from commenting on here or on social media but some people obviously need a reality check. As I have said before, if you or anyone else wishes to talk about any aspect of MFC, I will be only too happy to oblige (save for confidential matters) and then perhaps you would have a more informed view rather than posting the vitriolic bile you have posted on here today. RT

[Christies Child]

Well said Rod.

Rest assured that the majority of fans of our club respect and appreciate what you and Board members past and present do and have done in years past to ensure that our club survives.

Unfortunately a very small minority have their own agendas which does them little if any credit whatsoever.

[Bare Grills]

Well said Rod.

Rest assured that the majority of fans of our club respect and appreciate what you and Board members past and present do and have done in years past to ensure that our club survives.

Unfortunately a very small minority have their own agendas which does them little if any credit whatsoever.

The majority don't go any more so while I've no problem with you speaking your own mind, please don't speak on behalf of people you've never spoken to.

For the record, I'd back RT any time but I'm not a supporter of the full BOD.

[Westgate Wanderer]

Nice one Mr T. Quite a lot of bile comes from that direction!

[Posh]

I wish we had an owner like this though.

Appreciate the effort people like Mike Hinchcliffe is putting in but the likes of PMG and others I’ve no idea what they do other than hang around for a payout.

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Posh, I post on behalf of, and to defend most of my colleagues on the BOD here. Your comment about hanging around for a payout is rude, misinformed and bang out of order! How do you think wages have been paid on some occasions over the past year? Do you have any idea of the amount of time and money some of us support the football club with? Without the input and support of these individuals through the difficult times we have encountered over the past couple of years we would not have a club now. Don't have a go at the majority of the BOD for historic cock-ups. I usually refrain from commenting on here or on social media but some people obviously need a reality check. As I have said before, if you or anyone else wishes to talk about any aspect of MFC, I will be only too happy to oblige (save for confidential matters) and then perhaps you would have a more informed view rather than posting the vitriolic bile you have posted on here today. RT

Rod. Seriously, everyone is grateful to you Mike and others who’ve put their hand in their pocket to pay the wages. You mention historic cockups and that’s exactly where the finger is pointed that has led us to where we are. You know what is going on in the boardroom but no one else does. You say you and others have put your hands in your pockets to pay wages some times. Why? Why, when Abdulrahmen gave assurances to the Football League he would fund the club for two years? Why has the proxy owner of the club allowed that to happen?

If anything my comments are supportive of people on the board who genuinely love this club like you.

If you think it’s rude or vitriolic bile to say that or say that I don’t understand either PMG or Graham Burnard’s current involvement in the club then I apologise but nothing I can say can ever beat the damage and external perception that this set of events did https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.lep. ... 826541/amp.

Time to call it a day on the comments. Everything is easily misunderstood and are borne from frustration on all sides.

[George Dawes]

Well said Rod.

Rest assured that the majority of fans of our club respect and appreciate what you and Board members past and present do and have done in years past to ensure that our club survives.

Unfortunately a very small minority have their own agendas which does them little if any credit whatsoever.

The majority don't go any more so while I've no problem with you speaking your own mind, please don't speak on behalf of people you've never spoken to.

For the record, I'd back RT any time but I'm not a supporter of the full BOD.

2nd the latter.

[Posh]

Nice one Mr T. Quite a lot of bile comes from that direction!

Really. Like what exactly?

Bile tends to rise from deep frustration. Over many years I’ve done loads to support the club with ideas and, while nothing on the scale of others, a large amount of money through different means. I’ve also been passionate and hugely positive about the club everywhere I go. It is a huge love in my life, bigger than you ever know.

The happiest days I’ve ever had as a Shrimp were on the terraces at Christie Park and I really believed PMG when he said the move to the Globe would protect our future. Instead I’ve seen my club go through the agony and humiliation that we’ve suffered year after year off the field. It is like watching a dying relative knowing that more can be done but seeing nothing happen.

On the field Jim has done a super human effort to keep us in the Football League and I have such huge admiration for him. Off the field, I have huge gratitude to and sympathy with Rod for doing his utmost to keep the ship afloat and also for the likes of Graham Hodgson, Nigel Adams, Mark Hallam and others who’ve invested huge sums, to save something they love greatly, only to feel the need to walk away.

I am seriously concerned that again we’re back in intensive care and someone may pull the plug. Given that don’t be surprised if people do get upset because you can do nothing when they’re gone.

[Rod Taylor]

I wish we had an owner like this though.

Appreciate the effort people like Mike Hinchcliffe, Rod and others are putting in but the likes of PMG and others I’ve no idea what they do other than hang around for a payout.

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Posh, You could have stated that this is an amended post!

[Posh]

I wish we had an owner like this though.

Appreciate the effort people like Mike Hinchcliffe, Rod and others are putting in but the likes of PMG and others I’ve no idea what they do other than hang around for a payout.

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Posh, You could have stated that this is an amended post!

I didn’t notice until you quoted me that I hadn’t mentioned yourself, despite it being pretty obvious that I would mean you too. I know what it means to you personally and I know you’ve hung in there when it has become too much for others. I am still amazed you have. I can imagine it would be easier to walk away for the sake of your sanity, wallet and health, however I’m glad you have. I just hope it’s worth it, especially when large parts of the solution are out of your hands.

The vast majority of us are fighting on the same side, you and I included, for something which is a huge part not of our Saturdays but of our lives, our friends and our town. We’re bound to get passionate and I apologise if I’ve made you misinterpret that and got you angry.

In my view saving the club won’t happen in the boardroom but like at many other clubs, whether a sugar daddy, fan owned or just surviving, it will happen by the whole community getting together to fight and save it. If we can keep them informed and harness their energy then maybe it can done but that goodwill needs to be rediscovered. If you’re leading that then all the better but I don’t want this again (see photo below) especially permanently.

Gracious thanks as ever to you.

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[marky No.1]

Certainly been given the elbow

[John L]

Certainly been given the elbow

Yeah, Rod said he'd give his right arm to be in that photo!

[marky No.1]

Certainly been given the elbow

Yeah, Rod said he'd give his right arm to be in that photo!

Joking apart, it is a sad day when 2 long standing stalwarts, who have lived and breathed MFC for years, start bickering on social media. Unfortunately it does seem to sum our situation up

Quite entertaining watching the dirty washing hung out though

[Rod Taylor]

Certainly been given the elbow

Yeah, Rod said he'd give his right arm to be in that photo!

Joking apart, it is a sad day when 2 long standing stalwarts, who have lived and breathed MFC for years, start bickering on social media. Unfortunately it does seem to sum our situation up

Quite entertaining watching the dirty washing hung out though

Morning Mark, bickering, no. I was merely answering Posh's post with FACTS. Do I just leave it and let the rumour mill expand? As you know I rarely post on here, even when very tempted to do so over the past couple of years but enough is enough. I won't fall out with Posh & will no doubt have a beer with him at some point but I will not stand back and see stuff in the public domain that simply is not true. In the territory we operate in you are damned if you do & damned if you don't. A few names have been mentioned re helping the club out but I can assure you that there are more, current directors, ex-directors and supporter that have helped the club out in recent time, of course it is not for me to name names in the public domain. COYS

[marky No.1]

Joking apart, it is a sad day when 2 long standing stalwarts, who have lived and breathed MFC for years, start bickering on social media. Unfortunately it does seem to sum our situation up

Quite entertaining watching the dirty washing hung out though

Morning Mark, bickering, no. I was merely answering Posh's post with FACTS. Do I just leave it and let the rumour mill expand? As you know I rarely post on here, even when very tempted to do so over the past couple of years but enough is enough. I won't fall out with Posh & will no doubt have a beer with him at some point but I will not stand back and see stuff in the public domain that simply is not true. In the territory we operate in you are damned if you do & damned if you don't. A few names have been mentioned re helping the club out but I can assure you that there are more, current directors, ex-directors and supporter that have helped the club out in recent time, of course it is not for me to name names in the public domain. COYS

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I think Mr. Posh was sitting there with a big worm on his hook tbh.... most of the cr@p over the years was spouted in the bar and on the terraces so it wasn't in your face like it is now. In this modern age we can all sit behind our keyboards and hit buttons willy nilly often hiding behind a name - I remember your seeking out of Bare Ben very well

It must be very difficult being in the "boardroom" and seeing some of the stuff in writing and my thoughts are with you in what has been, and is, a challenging time

We are all suffering from wondering what might happen next.

Stay calm and take a chill pill

[Gone_Shrimping]

Joking apart, it is a sad day when 2 long standing stalwarts, who have lived and breathed MFC for years, start bickering on social media. Unfortunately it does seem to sum our situation up

Quite entertaining watching the dirty washing hung out though

Morning Mark, bickering, no. I was merely answering Posh's post with FACTS. Do I just leave it and let the rumour mill expand? As you know I rarely post on here, even when very tempted to do so over the past couple of years but enough is enough. I won't fall out with Posh & will no doubt have a beer with him at some point but I will not stand back and see stuff in the public domain that simply is not true. In the territory we operate in you are damned if you do & damned if you don't. A few names have been mentioned re helping the club out but I can assure you that there are more, current directors, ex-directors and supporter that have helped the club out in recent time, of course it is not for me to name names in the public domain. COYS

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I think Mr. Posh was sitting there with a big worm on his hook tbh.... most of the cr@p over the years was spouted in the bar and on the terraces so it wasn't in your face like it is now. In this modern age we can all sit behind our keyboards and hit buttons willy nilly often hiding behind a name - I remember your seeking out of Bare Ben very well

It must be very difficult being in the "boardroom" and seeing some of the stuff in writing and my thoughts are with you in what has been, and is, a challenging time

We are all suffering from wondering what might happen next.

Stay calm and take a chill pill

Did we ever find out who Kendal Shrimp was

[Posh]

Joking apart, it is a sad day when 2 long standing stalwarts, who have lived and breathed MFC for years, start bickering on social media. Unfortunately it does seem to sum our situation up

Quite entertaining watching the dirty washing hung out though

Morning Mark, bickering, no. I was merely answering Posh's post with FACTS. Do I just leave it and let the rumour mill expand? As you know I rarely post on here, even when very tempted to do so over the past couple of years but enough is enough. I won't fall out with Posh & will no doubt have a beer with him at some point but I will not stand back and see stuff in the public domain that simply is not true. In the territory we operate in you are damned if you do & damned if you don't. A few names have been mentioned re helping the club out but I can assure you that there are more, current directors, ex-directors and supporter that have helped the club out in recent time, of course it is not for me to name names in the public domain. COYS

Like^

I think Mr. Posh was sitting there with a big worm on his hook tbh.... most of the cr@p over the years was spouted in the bar and on the terraces so it wasn't in your face like it is now. In this modern age we can all sit behind our keyboards and hit buttons willy nilly often hiding behind a name - I remember your seeking out of Bare Ben very well

It must be very difficult being in the "boardroom" and seeing some of the stuff in writing and my thoughts are with you in what has been, and is, a challenging time

We are all suffering from wondering what might happen next.

Stay calm and take a chill pill

Agree with your point Mark but no one had a problem with putting Diego and Joseph Cala's dirty washing all over the internet, myself included. Why? Because it served a purpose. Everyone knew what Cala was about and everyone wanted to share a story of where he slept, his visit to the local bank or whatever.

The fundamental problem is our ownership situation, which I firmly believe is killing our club. I've enormous respect for those, like Rod, trying to run the club with one, if not two, hands tied behind their backs and trying to balance the agendas of various parties.

Perhaps I was wrong to bring this up publicly. Perhaps I should just turn up for every game pay my £17 and hope all this gets resolved. Sadly, so many, even at board level, have become frustrated though by the spiral of decline off the pitch (and what enables us to afford on the pitch) that they don't come any more.

I stand by what I've said and the points I've made. If anything Rod has given additional detail on the situation at the club, which many would never have known and the challenges he and others are dealing with.

However, time to take the washing in. It was never going to dry in the storm surrounding the club over the last few years.

[George Dawes]

It's been one of the most constructive threads ever in SVs, there will be a lot reading Rod Taylors counter argument with a better understanding now.



As a lot of Football fans just want to go down and watch their Local team play Football and are not interested in going into the Club bar and Social events mixing.

[Joel Ninety]

Getting back on topic for a hot minute:

EFL tells Accrington owner he must buy his players burgers even if they lose

[marky No.1]

Good coverage from "your station for Accrington Stanley" tonight.
A Man City fan has sent a letter to Pilley saying he wont be getting a City season ticket for next season, not just the fact that PL games will be on at 3 different times on a Sat/Sun, but because Mr. Pilley handed out his son a free Accy shirt to his school

[marky No.1]

Billy Kee, 2 goals in 2 mins