Colchester United 0:0 Morecambe

[HALMA 1983]

I don't see any problem with that assessment from the DOC, honest,straight to the point and sometimes that's needed even in my home town

[Posh]

Posh, I think you've misunderstood Keith over that. The two at the top who are 'exactly' who the fans want are Rod and Graham. The next bit references the actual owners. Not disagreeing with the principles of what you're saying other than that though.

Easy mistake to make. The two at the top are Jason and Colin - if we’re talking money, investment, final decisions, facilities etc.

[Phil Anderer]

Posh, I think you've misunderstood Keith over that. The two at the top who are 'exactly' who the fans want are Rod and Graham. The next bit references the actual owners. Not disagreeing with the principles of what you're saying other than that though.

Easy mistake to make. The two at the top are Jason and Colin - if we’re talking money, investment, final decisions, facilities etc.

You're not the only person recently to misunderstand Keith, although I think you've a much better case than the other culprit.

[thedoc]

I’ve been writing `match reports’ for Vital and latterly D3D4 football for longer than I care to remember. Why? Because nobody else will do it and I think it’s important to keep the profile of Morecambe FC as high as possible.

I remember writing something similar at least ten years ago.

And five years ago. And three years ago.

Last year, the editor at D3D4 Football asked for someone to write match reports about Morecambe on this very site. But – typically – nobody responded. So I offered to share the reports I was already doing for Vital football. Given that nobody else had taken-up the offer, I asked - on the pages you are reading now -for fellow fans to provide me with photos to illustrate the articles I felt obliged to share just to add a bit of variety.

Guess how many I have received?

Not one. So – just as was the case when I first started doing this and Know-It-Alls of various shapes and sizes started criticising what I wrote, I offered the same challenge that dear old Quinny does when anyone criticises him: Can You Do Any Better?

I’ve always taken the view: Feel Free – I’ve got far better things to do with my time and at least Derek gets paid: I don’t.

So let’s all rejoice, folks. This time – at long last – we actually have a volunteer.

So, John L - it’s all up to you, mate. You are the Man With The Plan after all:

Probably a better idea to divide your match reports and opinions about the club into separate articles in future, then those who simply want to read about the game don't have to trawl through potentially alienating waffle first

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I can’t attend the Carlisle United game on New Year’s Day because of family commitments. So here’s your big chance: put your money where your mouth is and do exactly what you have written above.

Better still, take some photos as well. You know how to contact me and I promise to send whatever you write unedited to the people who publish my reports. If you want to continue to do this – be my guest.

If you don’t, let’s have another volunteer. There are loads of people among us who clearly think they can do a better job – so please don’t come over all bashful now...

I look forward so much to seeing how it should really be done that I am going to start a separate thread about it right now: John L Takes the Reins in which I am going to repeat this post.

Happy New Year Everybody.

[mrpotatohead]

Haha, hot potato, ......for what it's worth Doc I think you do a great job, and the critics should put their pen where their mouth is......I now wish SHITERIDER was still here, coz you could kick off your shoes , get the "popcorn" out , and Fred's your uncle!!!

[Popcorn]

Haha, hot potato, ......for what it's worth Doc I think you do a great job, and the critics should put their pen where their mouth is......I now wish SHITERIDER was still here, coz you could kick off your shoes , get the "popcorn" out , and Fred's your uncle!!!

Popcorn, although named after a Northern Monkey stout, is best for sitting back & watching.

[Little Shrimp]

I don't really think there's too much of a problem with what the Doc said. I was prepared to not be too worried about the wages not being paid first time round, but now it's happened again that has alarm bells ringing. I'm shocked at the willingness of some to blindly dismiss the issue. It is worrying and very suspicious and in such a style of report as the Doc's, something worth pointing out.

I, personally, would take a little issue with the calling out of 'so-called fans'. Many of them are paying money and seeing crap so surely have the right to complain. Although, especially on Facebook, some of their complaints and arguments are particularly mind numbing so I can see why the Doc has called them out.

Overall, I think what this really comes down to is what kind of match report people prefer. Some enjoy those in the style of the Doc's, which are lengthy and go into detail surrounding current issues of both clubs - then try and weave it all together where applicable. Others prefer a simple blow by blow report of the game, something to either read what they missed or relive/compare their experience of events. This can be found on the OWS though!

I think reports in the style of the Doc's that raise issues and comment on them are there to be debated, and this should generally be encouraged. Particularly on a football forum! I do, however, feel it is unfair to label his reports as 'waffle' etc. It is a certain style of match reporting, and if it were to be changed to a more blow by blow report, you'd get others complaining it was too dull and dry.

Personally, I think you should keep it up Doc!

[Popcorn]

He's posting independent match reports, as he says the only one to do so. If you don't like his style, don't read them. If you can do better, just do it.

[Slanester]

I knew that what I wrote yesterday would provoke the reaction it did.

[Keith]

For what it is worth, I enjoy the 'waffle', it makes them 'real' to me. I particularly enjoy the town write ups, that barely reference football, such as your Grimsby trip!

Don't take the criticism personally!

[Gone_Shrimping]

I don't really think there's too much of a problem with what the Doc said. I was prepared to not be too worried about the wages not being paid first time round, but now it's happened again that has alarm bells ringing. I'm shocked at the willingness of some to blindly dismiss the issue. It is worrying and very suspicious and in such a style of report as the Doc's, something worth pointing out.

I, personally, would take a little issue with the calling out of 'so-called fans'. Many of them are paying money and seeing crap so surely have the right to complain. Although, especially on Facebook, some of their complaints and arguments are particularly mind numbing so I can see why the Doc has called them out.

Overall, I think what this really comes down to is what kind of match report people prefer. Some enjoy those in the style of the Doc's, which are lengthy and go into detail surrounding current issues of both clubs - then try and weave it all together where applicable. Others prefer a simple blow by blow report of the game, something to either read what they missed or relive/compare their experience of events. This can be found on the OWS though!

I think reports in the style of the Doc's that raise issues and comment on them are there to be debated, and this should generally be encouraged. Particularly on a football forum! I do, however, feel it is unfair to label his reports as 'waffle' etc. It is a certain style of match reporting, and if it were to be changed to a more blow by blow report, you'd get others complaining it was too dull and dry.

Personally, I think you should keep it up Doc!

The wages were credited to the players and staff bank accounts during banking business hours on the normal payday of 28th of the month so not really a big issue and lets hope that this situation won't recur in future months.

[mrpotatohead]

If I were Doc I would think, right then, if you are gonna gripe, let's see you have a go, to both John L and RR, and every time I did a report I would put my opinions about all sorts on it, he has earned the right to.

[fulwoodshrimp]

Great reports by the doc, full of interest and debating points. Lets hope he is willing to keep up the good work and raising the profile of our club. He is right to highlight the shambles that our club is and okay the wages were paid but late. Why? What is the explanation from the board?

[redrobo]

If I were Doc I would think, right then, if you are gonna gripe, let's see you have a go, to both John L and RR, and every time I did a report I would put my opinions about all sorts on it, he has earned the right to.

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As I said in my first post on this thread and I will gladly reiterate, the doc's matchday reports are excellent and give fans unable to attend games home or away a reflection of what the game was really like. They are also are a reflection of games already witnessed by fans but as seen in the eyes of a fellow fan. I doubt that many of us could do a better job.

I've no problem with that side of the doc's reporting but my issue with his latest post was reference in particular to those existing Board members (now Co Chairmen) who are trying their best to put right the wrongs of previous administrations over the past decades.

As for the current owners, as I said elsewhere, far from ideal but had it not been for their involvement it's doubtful that we would have had a club to follow. But I do accept that their involvement is not to the liking of some but I for one am grateful that they have got involved although I am concerned about their long term commitment and still hold on to my preferred option of a local consortium to assume control.

Happy and Peaceful New Year to everybody.

[Slanester]

I think it’s important to keep the profile of Morecambe FC as high as possible.

[Joel Ninety]

Don't see a problem with what was in the match report. Why can't there be any criticism of the constant Bentley Out posts on Facebook? It's tiresome wading through all that bilge to get to the interesting comments.