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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby black morse » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:17 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


Absolutely right!
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:21 pm

Amusing to hear from Flynn moaning that they were bullied by us in the second half!! When was the last time we ever bullied the opposition? :D
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Sun Dec 22, 2019 6:21 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


Yes , Jim did a great job here first as a player and captain and then manager. I think he would have struggled to keep us up this season as some of his Summer signings were not too inspiring although the Bury and Macclesfield situations may have saved him.

Jim isn't going to win us any more points so lets wish him well at AFC Fylde and give Derek our full support.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby red shrimp » Sun Dec 22, 2019 7:34 pm

redrobo wrote:Sorry Keith but have to say that the last couple of seasons have been bloody crap entertainment and it was time for him to move on.

I defended JB time after time when performances were utter rubbish but this last close season showed me that he relied too much on former players rather than going after non league players like Macc for example.

One minute you say it was down to finance and then you say it wasn't. Be honest and admit that the squad he assembled for the past couple of seasons didn't live up to expectations OR was it down to the negative tactics he employed? I genuinely think he'd run out of ideas and that he was looking for a way out sooner rather than later.

It's doubtful that our owners would have given him a new contract OR afforded him the luxury of money come January and who can blame them....I certainly don't... :o

He will always be a legend but the club needed a fresh face in charge of team affairs if only to rekindled the hope and aspirations of fans.

DA to date is like a breath of fresh air and it is just what we needed to get us out of the dire position we are in. Sorry to say this I wouldn't have had confidence that JB and Co would have got us out of the poo as other teams new exactly how we would be set up after seasons of the same tactics.

I wish JB well at AFC but in all honesty I'm glad he decided to go. Entertainment had vanished..... and I genuinely believe that under DA we've got a manager who will deliver :D



+1 absolutely spot on.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BHmfc » Sun Dec 22, 2019 8:25 pm

Bloody hell Keith, let it go, I don't post that often but you are starting to p!!s me off. Jim was a great player on the pitch and a great person off the pitch,but as a manager he had so many faults, negative team selections,negative tactives, negative substitutions etc ,etc. I supported him through thick and thin but the breaking point for me was the Scunthorpe away game ( and yes I was there) To start with 5 in defence against a team who had not won a league game in 6 months was criminal. For 20 minutes Scunthorpe were awful, their players did'nt want the ball, their supporters were on their backs but because of Jim's negative tactics one goal led to two which soon became three. We were 3 nil down against the bottom of the league. Jim changed the team formation but it was too late. I walked away from that game and for the first time I said Jim had to go. Everything had become too cosy, Jim was mates with staff, supporters and directors who could not see the bigger picture, I don't like saying it, but under Jim we were going to get relegated. I know people bang on about how he has kept us in the league but look at Accrington, who even before the new owner, out performed us season after season and the reason was , John Coleman. I wish Jim all the best at Fylde but it was time for him to move on, I have far more confidence in Derek Adams keeping us up this season than I would have in Jim. Everything I have witnessed so far fills me with hope, the players look fitter, they look more organised and the substiutions are really positive. something we had not seen for a long time, so let' please all move on .
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Redalert1970 » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:22 pm

DEREK ADAMS IS THE MORECAMBE MANAGER

NO ONE ELSE

BENTLEY AS HIS OWN RELEGATION BATTLE TO WORRY ABOUT
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Sun Dec 22, 2019 9:28 pm

Guess we aren't ready to move on just yet then
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Postby Freez » Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:10 pm

I think everyone is, just Keith making a point on the transient nature of Neils opinions dependent on results, which many have commented on in the past :D .

Oldham is an interesting one, hopefully people will come back, the Latics may bring 5-600 hopefully and another three points and who knows?
The changes that DA makes have currently made a difference, as I have said before, if we could get the eleven right from the start, who knows.
Sutton back, Lavelle back after Boxing Day, almost a full squad to pick from and transfer window opening and we aren’t bottom!!
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Keith » Sun Dec 22, 2019 11:45 pm

The point was, after a Derek team lost, Jim still got blamed for assembling the squad.
Yesterday, Derek got praise for his squad.

Next time we lose, it will be Jim's fault again?
“Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband: ".

David Cameron. May 4th 2015.
So how did that work out then?
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Posh » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:41 am

I think you’re on a loser there Keith.

The anti-Jim brigade will always try to turn the argument. Yet yesterday was a Jim squad and a poor one, yet Derek managed to get the most out of them in a thrilling second half. Time to move on.

P.S. Neil’s comment that he defended Jim Bentley after poor performances must be the funniest thing I’ve ever read on here and makes Donald Trump look like Mother Theresa on the honesty scale. Time for everyone to move on I think.
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Postby mfcbro » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:29 am

I have to agree with you keith,left with a crap squad then dereks warriors,crap summer signings and then two got us out of trouble .Time to move on.Wont b long till red child slags derek adams off.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Slanester » Mon Dec 23, 2019 8:12 am

mfcbro wrote:I have to agree with you keith,left with a crap squad then dereks warriors,crap summer signings and then two got us out of trouble .Time to move on.Wont b long till red child slags derek adams off.


I totally agree with that. Sometimes, it is necessary to call a spade,a spade, regardless.

PS. Don’t bother with the “moving on” shite. I definitely have.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Dec 23, 2019 10:50 am

In defence of Neil, it is a poorly put together squad. We all agree on that. Too many attackers, not enough defenders and a weak midfield. Lads have been awarded lengthy contracts who probably don't warrant one. It has all been said numerous times over the last 4 or 5 months. There are some gems, Carlos, young George Tanner for example.

DA seems to be organising them and getting more out of them. Neil used the word "Warriors" to describe their performances on Saturday and I think he is right. Credit where it is due, the 2nd half effort was massive and such superlatives are worthy IMO.

Nobody is or was Anti-Jim, we are all pro Morecambe and we should all be on the same page. Hoping for Morecambe wins and more goals like on Saturday. Time to let the bitterness go, there are only just over a thousand of us regular fans, we need to stick together from here on in.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby shrimperteer » Mon Dec 23, 2019 12:46 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


I agree with this.
It’s DA’s team now, the past is the past. If we do well it’s his credit, if we go down it’s entirely on him too.
Let’s all get behind him and the team so we’re congratulating him at the end of the season for a good league position and not blaming him for being the first ever manager to take us down.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Dec 23, 2019 1:27 pm

shrimperteer wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


I agree with this.
It’s DA’s team now, the past is the past. If we do well it’s his credit, if we go down it’s entirely on him too.
Let’s all get behind him and the team so we’re congratulating him at the end of the season for a good league position and not blaming him for being the first ever manager to take us down.


Is this a disclaimer?
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Slanester » Mon Dec 23, 2019 2:28 pm

shrimperteer wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


I agree with this.
It’s DA’s team now, the past is the past. If we do well it’s his credit, if we go down it’s entirely on him too.
Let’s all get behind him and the team so we’re congratulating him at the end of the season for a good league position and not blaming him for being the first ever manager to take us down.


Seems a decent enough summation s/teer.
Being behind the team, by way of paying into the ground, hasn’t been the main issue, for most on here. Unfortunately for some, that just turned into means to an end.....slate the team, the manager, other fans etc,more relevant to the abuse from away fans. It is just too convenient, as far as I’m concerned, to then just try and write that all off. My guard definitely ain’t dropping.
Yes, that includes you Berlin W.

The support for the whole team, from me and mine, will remain 100%, as it did with our previous management. Loads of positives under DA, and he will keep us up. Enjoying the ride, long may it last.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:02 pm

Ok mate, you carry on with your amateur dramatics and I will carry on supporting Morecambe FC as I have always done. Have a very merry Christmas.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Slanester » Mon Dec 23, 2019 4:49 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:Ok mate, you carry on with your amateur. Have a very merry Christmas.


Touché. Merry Christmas to you too.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby shrimperteer » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:42 pm

BerlinWaller wrote:
shrimperteer wrote:
BerlinWaller wrote:I think yesterdays win is a great place to leave all the Jim Bentley stuff behind now. It is time to concentrate on the club with DA in charge and not to keep bringing Jim's name in to everything. His legend status is secure but he is manager of Fylde now. We have 2 supporters as new Directors and a January window to look forward too.


I agree with this.
It’s DA’s team now, the past is the past. If we do well it’s his credit, if we go down it’s entirely on him too.
Let’s all get behind him and the team so we’re congratulating him at the end of the season for a good league position and not blaming him for being the first ever manager to take us down.


Is this a disclaimer?


No disclaimer there pal, you must have read the wrong post. Bless.
I was agreeing with you.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby BerlinWaller » Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:43 pm

Now i know you are taking the piss
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby mfcbro » Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:15 am

Dont think losing Andy Fleming a week before the season started helped with the midfield.
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Re: Morecambe 2 [Stockton, O'Sullivan] Newport 1 iFollow Thr

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:36 am

mfcbro wrote:Dont think losing Andy Fleming a week before the season started helped with the midfield.


Agreed! Flemmo was on fire at the end of last season and we were all looking for a repeat this season. Massive shame that injury put an end to his career and undoubtedly left us a lot weaker in the midfield area. However IMO that would have papered over the cracks and we really were ready for some new leadership, which we now have! Onwards and upwards hopefully!

Is this thread back on track now, following the skirmish further up the page. Jusk asking like :roll:
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