O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacements

O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacements

Postby redrobo » Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:55 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/live/cd163154zw1t

Not totally unexpected.

Thank you to Gareth for your time as manager and for restoring some pride into the nations team.
Last edited by redrobo on Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
redrobo
 
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 10:23 am

Re: O/T Southgate resings as England Manager

Postby Phil Anderer » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:17 am

What's he re-singing redrobo? Surely not Football's Coming Home. (Might want to correct the title. ;) )

I hope England can get another manager as successful and we don't have to wait 50 years again, as I very much doubt I'll still be around to see it.
The 3 rules of Fascism:
1. Make stuff up;
2. Scream it loudly;
3. Kill people.
(copyright Eddie Izzard)
User avatar
Phil Anderer
 
Posts: 3340
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:45 pm
Location: Wherever the music takes me

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager

Postby black morse » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:25 am

If we want an English England manager, which I hope we do, the choices seem very limited. It would be interesting to see Alan Shearer have a go but I think there would be clashes of personalities between him and players and we can't take a risk.
black morse
 
Posts: 5489
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:59 am
Location: South Devon

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby redrobo » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:35 am

And so the guessing game of who will replace him begins.

Already in the frame are Frank Lampard and Eddie Howe.....
redrobo
 
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 10:23 am

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Old Man Kensey » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:36 am

I just hope that they don't go for Frank Lampard.
On a machine like this
Everybody gets their hands oily
User avatar
Old Man Kensey
 
Posts: 831
Joined: Mon Jun 23, 2008 11:31 am

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Phil Anderer » Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:41 am

I hope they don't go for one of the old guard (I've seen Roy Hodgson mentioned :roll: ). I don't mind if they're not English, TBH, just want someone who'll freshen things up.
The 3 rules of Fascism:
1. Make stuff up;
2. Scream it loudly;
3. Kill people.
(copyright Eddie Izzard)
User avatar
Phil Anderer
 
Posts: 3340
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 4:45 pm
Location: Wherever the music takes me

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:49 pm

Graham Potter?
Don't worry be happy!
Westgate Wanderer
 
Posts: 3434
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:51 pm
Location: Westgate

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby al1 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:22 pm

Derek Adams?
al1
 
Posts: 1292
Joined: Mon Jun 30, 2008 5:51 pm
Location: morecambe

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby redrobo » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:02 pm

al1 wrote:Derek Adams?


DA far better in club management with us at the Maz.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
redrobo
 
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 10:23 am

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Crazeenick » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:17 pm

Jurgen Klopp would be good!
User avatar
Crazeenick
 
Posts: 1313
Joined: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:02 pm
Location: Torrisholme

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby redrobo » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:41 pm

Listened to Sport News on GB News a reporter said that being a National Team Manager is totally different than being a successful League Manager.

League managers are with the same players day in day out whilst a National Team manager is only with his players occasionally and therefore deciding who will take over does mean it will not necessarily be a successful league manager.

:?: :?: :?:
redrobo
 
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 10:23 am

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby BerlinWaller » Tue Jul 16, 2024 3:56 pm

Get Josè in.

Southgate has done a very good job but his unwillingness to go at teams was his downfall.
BerlinWaller
 
Posts: 4322
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 8:42 am

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby deadorred70 » Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:50 pm

Sarina Weigman she knows how to win things ;)
deadorred70
 
Posts: 148
Joined: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:50 pm

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby black morse » Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:08 pm

Klopp for me if he'd take it on.
black morse
 
Posts: 5489
Joined: Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:59 am
Location: South Devon

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Relapsed_Shrimp » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:15 pm

Jose would have been ideal and think he'd be ruthless at international level. Klopp wants the Germany job for the next world cup and Potter, Lampard and Howe are younger versions of Southgate.

I'd go foreign as there is less emotion. Kane wouldn't have started for example. No emotional ties or pressure from the British people or media. Capello did terribly but he didn't care. Imagine that attitude with success.

I'd like to see Poch but then again he's never won anything either!
Relapsed_Shrimp
 
Posts: 121
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:34 pm

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:21 pm

Break the bank and ask Pep if he fancies doing it.
Gone_Shrimping
 
Posts: 5312
Joined: Mon Jul 20, 2015 7:49 am

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby Relapsed_Shrimp » Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:20 pm

Can't spend millions of pounds when managing a national team, can only pick what fits. It's not a given he wouldn't do well without money!
Relapsed_Shrimp
 
Posts: 121
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2021 6:34 pm

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby RedRedWine » Wed Jul 17, 2024 1:38 pm

Could somebody pass on Neils regards to Gareth Southgate? I'm not sure if he reads Shrimpsvoices

I think that overall you have to give Southgate credit - he has done a great job, falling just short of winning the big competitions but going much further than any of his predecessors did. He does have a great squad of players to pick from on paper, but so did many others - when you compare the 2004 squad that Sven had with this team, I don't think many current individuals would get in.... but that's the thing about football; it is a team sport and collectively that is what Gareth has built; a solid team that shows more togetherness and effort than we have seen from other more talented generations. The club allegiances have largely gone (possibly because Manchester United are now completely shite and the make-up of the squad is drawn from a wider pool of clubs that aren't as self-interested).

That said, I do think it is time for the team to evolve and move forward under a new manager. Whilst it would be a brave man to drop the likes of Harry Kane and Kyle Walker, both played particularly poorly/didn't suit the formation/tactics Gareth was looking to implement at the Euros - and I think this cost England; who didn't impose themselves as I'm sure they would have liked to throughout the competition despite reaching the final.

I would favour Eddie Howe if he can be persuaded to leave Newcastle, or a good tactical coach such as Graham Potter over a foreign import (unless you can get a Klopp or a Pep, but with both earning big bucks - I think they are out of reach). With Southgate the highest paid coach in the Euros (reputedly £5m per year) - finances would surely rule either of these candidates out. Whoever does get the job, if they go on to finally end Englands long wait for a trophy - it will largely be because of the groundwork achieved by Southgate, not despite it... and because of that he deserves the utmost respect for a job well done.
Hello! Hello! We are the Morecambe boys!
User avatar
RedRedWine
 
Posts: 2227
Joined: Tue Dec 27, 2011 9:48 am
Location: Gone Shrimping

Re: O/T Southgate resigns as England Manager PLUS replacemen

Postby redrobo » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:01 pm

Whilst passing on my good wishes to Southgate....maybe include those of RRW who is slightly critical of the formation / tactics......

;) ;) ;)
redrobo
 
Posts: 5637
Joined: Mon May 14, 2018 10:23 am


Return to General Discussion

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 114 guests

cron