Morecambe 2 [A-Jay, Oswell] Pork Vale 2 LIVE iFollow Thread

[Gone_Shrimping]

Oates only trained Friday for the 1st time,thats why he didn't start.

OK it was still 2 points dropped to add to the 2 points dropped against Notts County and Cheltenham.

6 points on our total and we would be above Carlisle.

[redrobo]

A storming first 45 in which we took advantage of the wind BUT they had the wind in the second 45 and like us took full advantage of it. However I have to say that I think our tactics played in their favour trying yet again to defend a lead that many of us said at half time could be under threat.

Mandy was excellent as was Cranston and so pleased that Ossie got his first EFL goal just hope that Jim doesn't reinstate Oliver.

[Keith]

As for the offside trap, it was obvious we'd get caught out by it one day. Yesterday, we got caught out when it really mattered. We don't have the calibre of players to do the "tricks", so just play it straight.

Hang on a second! We didn't "get caught", it worked perfectly. What happened was the officials got it wrong when it mattered, or, more specifically, the linesman failed. Port Vale didn't 'catch us out', the linesman screwed up. Until the linesman gave them that goal, Port Vale didn't really offer anything at all. One good shot that Old dealt with superbly. In the second half, we still had more chances than Vale. Their second came while we were still chuntering about the injustice of the first, and we'd lost concentration.

Don't get me wrong, I still think we should be much more adventurous and had we really pushed hard, I think we'd have got a third. But, we also have to recognise that in the first half we had the wind behind us and a side like Port Vale, you'd expect them to come out fighting in the second half, so perhaps it was less us sitting back and more them pushing us back?

[fulwoodshrimp]

I think game after game we show tactical naivete. Yesterday we were coasting to victory but then sat back and invited a fairly ordinary Vale to attack us with inevitable consequences. We stopped playing until they equalised and then we began to press again. A good team would have continued to go forward seeking a third goal. It's happened many times before and sadly we don't seem to learn.

[Andy D]

Because we set up 4-2-3-1

In 2nd half their fullbacks were told to push up, Conlon & Varney in the 2nd half we "1 vs 2" their goals infact came from wide positions, going around our defence instead.

Nothing to do with subtituitions, i could see where Jim was coming from on that one.

[BerlinWaller]

Port Vale set up like we normally do with Pope really isolated and annoyed up front. They are probably the first team that have come to The Globe and not hammered us down the flanks. I thought playing Yarney at RB was clever as Pope had nobody to pull off on to which left Sam and Old to boss him for most of the game. If you sit back you are going to invite pressure and at 0-2, they had nothing to lose. I thought Oates would have given us a pacey outlet on the counter. Kev is shot, the body is willing but the message from brain to foot has gone and it it is so evident. Cranston's roll in the first goal was pure class as was the finish

[Slanester]

As for the offside trap, it was obvious we'd get caught out by it one day. Yesterday, we got caught out when it really mattered. We don't have the calibre of players to do the "tricks", so just play it straight.

Hang on a second! We didn't "get caught", it worked perfectly. What happened was the officials got it wrong when it mattered, or, more specifically, the linesman failed. Port Vale didn't 'catch us out', the linesman screwed up. Until the linesman gave them that goal, Port Vale didn't really offer anything at all. One good shot that Old dealt with superbly. In the second half, we still had more chances than Vale. Their second came while we were still chuntering about the injustice of the first, and we'd lost concentration.

Don't get me wrong, I still think we should be much more adventurous and had we really pushed hard, I think we'd have got a third. But, we also have to recognise that in the first half we had the wind behind us and a side like Port Vale, you'd expect them to come out fighting in the second half, so perhaps it was less us sitting back and more them pushing us back?

Agree with all of that K.
Interesting how we all, including me, can make the analysis of any game, fit into their own parameters, and have such contrasting veiws on it. Makes for a good forum though. COYS.

[Slanester]

Because we set up 4-2-3-1

In 2nd half their fullbacks were told to push up, Conlon & Varney in the 2nd half we "1 vs 2" their goals infact came from wide positions, going around our defence instead.

Nothing to do with subtituitions, i could see where Jim was coming from on that one.

After the 1st half, their fullbacks will have, of course been told to push up, along with,”press,press,press “ for the rest of the team. That is what they did, and had to do. Anything else, would probably have resulted in a proper drubbing for them. I don’t agree that we invited them on. We came under the fully expected, PV 2-0 down cosh, and were managing it, until the much talked about, WRONG decision.

Early on in the 2nd half, Kev was done. He was achieving nothing, not showing any real intent in wanting the ball, or offering himself up for throw ins etc. He needed to go off, his job done. I think Kev is a legend, but time has caught up, as it does with any sportsman.

[Andy D]

Because we set up 4-2-3-1

In 2nd half their fullbacks were told to push up, Conlon & Varney in the 2nd half we "1 vs 2" their goals infact came from wide positions, going around our defence instead.

Nothing to do with subtituitions, i could see where Jim was coming from on that one.

After the 1st half, their fullbacks will have, of course been told to push up, along with,”press,press,press “ for the rest of the team. That is what they did, and had to do. Anything else, would probably have resulted in a proper drubbing for them. I don’t agree that we invited them on. We came under the fully expected, PV 2-0 down cosh, and were managing it, until the much talked about, WRONG decision.

Early on in the 2nd half, Kev was done. He was achieving nothing, not showing any real intent in wanting the ball, or offering himself up for throw ins etc. He needed to go off, his job done. I think Kev is a legend, but time has caught up, as it does with any sportsman.

agreed i dont think it was a case of sitting back.

We worked hard off the ball yesterday, winning most of the 2nd balls, lot of positives yesterday, just a bad offside decision, and just looking at highlights, Pope's goal clever player how he just Ghosted in and got on the end of a good cross.

[Sakhalin Shrimp]

Their second came while we were still chuntering about the injustice of the first, and we'd lost concentration.

Nothing to do with the double substitution unsettling the team then?