Tranmere 3 Morecambe 1 [Cranston] LIVE iFollow Thread

[BoroRedShrimp]

Yes talking to my other halfs family they said it is normal for us sacking managers every six months. They being season ticket holders said it was unfair, one bad game and he is gone.

In Oldham's case, it's not just one bad game to be fair. Exeter as another example.

This is a Morecambe forum though so I'll end it there....!!

We have had 6 seasons of poor results so I hardly think two matches should cost a manager his job. Exeter are a good team as we know.

[HALMA 1983]

Yes talking to my other halfs family they said it is normal for us sacking managers every six months. They being season ticket holders said it was unfair, one bad game and he is gone.

In Oldham's case, it's not just one bad game to be fair. Exeter as another example.

This is a Morecambe forum though so I'll end it there....!!

Just making a point about Jimbo and his loyalty, sometimes be very careful what you wish for and for the record I wanted bunn to be given a fair crack of the whip but that's where football is now.

[HALMA 1983]

Yes talking to my other halfs family they said it is normal for us sacking managers every six months. They being season ticket holders said it was unfair, one bad game and he is gone.

In Oldham's case, it's not just one bad game to be fair. Exeter as another example.

This is a Morecambe forum though so I'll end it there....!!

We have had 6 seasons of poor results so I hardly think two matches should cost a manager his job. Exeter are a good team as we know. However you don't go to Boundary Park so how can you start bringing Carlisle and Exeter into it.

That's where your wrong, bought a season ticket in the Joe royal stand in memory of my father and get to see my relations in Oldham, Royton and Shaw whilst I'm there.
Although I have a love for my adopted towns team Morecambe as you know only too well

[BoroRedShrimp]

Not meaning you Oldhamade just seasider who thinks he can make comments about Oldham and the reason they sacked Frankie Bunn over two losses. Feel Frankie Bunn should have had more time especially when you see our track record. We should be thankful that we haven't got an owner like this. He got rid of Rhodes and he is not bothered who he sacks.

[Seasider9601]

.

[HALMA 1983]

Not meaning you Oldhamade just Mr Shaw who thinks he can make comments about Oldham and the reason they sacked Frankie Bunn over two losses. Feel Frankie Bunn should have had more time especially when you see our track record. We should be thankful that we haven't got an owner like this. He got rid of Rhodes and he is not bothered who he sacks.

Yet you can make comments about Morecambe and Jim Bentley on here and on Facebook but don’t visit The Globe?

Ho hum.

Seemingly I've opened up another can of worms on here, this is a football forum and funny enough my mentioning Oldham's plight is pretty relevant at this moment in time, same league and same set of circumstances.
In an ideal world I'd love to see both club's doing really well and the fan's happy and contented but we are where we are.
Let's try to be more pro-active and welcoming in the new year and cut out the barbed comments.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Done seasider.

[RedRampage]

Yes Jim is loyal, and he works his socks off for the club in difficult circumstances. Yes he buys fans a pint from time to time, and shakes their hands in the bar, but this doesn't mean he's a good manager! one win every six or so games isn't good enough , our home record since he took over is an embarrassment! He doesn't get the team motivated for big games. His FA Cup record is a joke! His tactics are rubbish and have driven a lot of fans away! He seems to have a select few wrapped around his little finger, and none of them dare say anything against him. I am sure if Sammy Mac had stayed on and served up the rubbish that Jim has over the years you'd all be calling for his head years ago!! I can't knock Jim as a man, and as a Shrimps legend , but as a football manager, I am not so sure. I would love to see a new manager, with new FRESH ideas, I feel like the players have it too easy under Jim, and it shows on the pitch.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Yes Jim is loyal, and he works his socks off for the club in difficult circumstances. Yes he buys fans a pint from time to time, and shakes their hands in the bar, but this doesn't mean he's a good manager! one win every six or so games isn't good enough , our home record since he took over is an embarrassment! He doesn't get the team motivated for big games. His FA Cup record is a joke! His tactics are rubbish and have driven a lot of fans away! He seems to have a select few wrapped around his little finger, and none of them dare say anything against him. I am sure if Sammy Mac had stayed on and served up the rubbish that Jim has over the years you'd all be calling for his head years ago!! I can't knock Jim as a man, and as a Shrimps legend , but as a football manager, I am not so sure. I would love to see a new manager, with new FRESH ideas, I feel like the players have it too easy under Jim, and it shows on the pitch.

Thanks redRampage I know that I am not the only one on here who does not like Jim's overall tactics. Been a brilliant skipper and servant but sometimes I think the club needs to move on.

[RedRampage]

Thanks redRampage I know that I am not the only one on here who does not like Jim's overall tactics. Been a brilliant skipper and servant but sometimes I think the club needs to move on.[/quote]

They're are a hell of a lot of "Jim Out" but they aren't as vocal as the "Jim in" brigade. I for one don't hardly go any more simply because the football on show isn't worth the cost. I can't remember the last time I went to see a game where I didn't walk out totally deflated. It's not all Jim's Fault, the whole structure of the club has been poor for years now, but ultimately Jim is paid well to get results, and for me, he has simply failed! they're are about 10 or so people on here, and on the Facebook page who will not hear anything negative said about him, and it really winds me up at how protected he is by this select few.

There was a Morecambe before Jim, and there WILL be one after him.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Thanks redRampage I know that I am not the only one on here who does not like Jim's overall tactics. Been a brilliant skipper and servant but sometimes I think the club needs to move on.

They're are a hell of a lot of "Jim Out" but they aren't as vocal as the "Jim in" brigade. I for one don't hardly go any more simply because the football on show isn't worth the cost. I can't remember the last time I went to see a game where I didn't walk out totally deflated. It's not all Jim's Fault, the whole structure of the club has been poor for years now, but ultimately Jim is paid well to get results, and for me, he has simply failed! they're are about 10 or so people on here, and on the Facebook page who will not hear anything negative said about him, and it really winds me up at how protected he is by this select few.

There was a Morecambe before Jim, and there WILL be one after him.[/quote]

I agree totally with you. At least I know that it is just not me but a few who have seen enough week after week of the same problems on the pitch. Yes we have the odd week were we have played well againat the likes of Cambridge, Yeovil and Forest Green but we haven't been consistant enough to get a good run going. My issue is the same mistakes that keep costing us in matches that never seem to go away. Just like to see us have one season of playing well as a unit but it never does.

[redrobo]

At the recent fans forum the new owners said that they look at every aspect of our club and that includes the position of the manager. And whilst they respect him they did say that we are in a result based business. That suggests to me that his position is under constant revue and may not be as secure as it was under the former owner. I'm NOT suggesting for one minute that Jim in my opinion should go but the fact that his position is like that of any other football manager ie result based means that he is under pressure like never before.

As for the Oldham managerial vacancy, I would expect that the name of Gary Bowyer the former Blackburn and Blackpool manager is high on the list of candidates.

[HALMA 1983]

At the recent fans forum the new owners said that they look at every aspect of our club and that includes the position of the manager. And whilst they respect him they did say that we are in a result based business. That suggests to me that his position is under constant revue and may not be as secure as it was under the former owner. I'm NOT suggesting for one minute that Jim in my opinion should go but the fact that his position is like that of any other football manager ie result based means that he is under pressure like never before.

As for the Oldham managerial vacancy, I would expect that the name of Gary Bowyer the former Blackburn and Blackpool manager is high on the list of candidates.

They should have gone for this guy after Shez left but Frank Bunn although a strange appointment was doing rather well all things considered but no matter what something behind the scenes is going to kill off the club very soon unless it's corrected.
The players also need putting back on track and most can leave for me after Boxing day because they're not up to it as professionals

[Keith]

They're are a hell of a lot of "Jim Out" but they aren't as vocal as the "Jim in" brigade.
...they're are about 10 or so people on here, and on the Facebook page who will not hear anything negative said about him, and it really winds me up at how protected he is by this select few.

What really winds me up is that the 'Jim out' brigade appear to think that they should be able to call for him to be sacked and the 'Jim in' brigade should simply accept their words of wisdom and not respond with an alternative point of view!

the whole structure of the club has been poor for years now...

EXACTLY!!!
Preferably said in a Scouse accent!

Jim has worked miracles in keeping us in League Two season after season. Players paid late again today. How on earth he keeps them together and wanting to play for Morecambe I don't know. Selling best players for a pittance or seeing players who he's resurrected their careers leave to go to clubs in the same league, because we can't compete with salaries.

Yes, at times he frustrates me too. I wish we'd be more adventurous. I hate seeing us try to 'manage' a game when 2-0 up, rather than going for the jugular. I get frustrated (as I said on Saturday) when we appear to worry more about the opposition than letting them worry about us.

BUT, he's been playing a crap hand incredibly well, season after season. If you can't see that (or won't accept it) that's fine, your point of view is your point of view. But don't be surprised when people who see it differently to you, challenge you and offer an alternative.

[CityShrimp]

“They're are a hell of a lot of "Jim Out" but they aren't as vocal as the "Jim in" brigade”.

I’ve found the opposite to be true. After we’ve suffered a bad defeat in particular, there seems to be a very vocal cohort who are calling for Jims head online, but when I actually speak to fellow fans in real life, I rarely hear a bad word about Jim and most seem happy enough to have him as manager.