If The Queen Dies...

Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby asda shrimp » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:52 pm

Scouseport_Shrimp wrote:
redrobo wrote:
Redalert1970 wrote:ALL EFL matches OFF 9th and 10th Sept

Probably won't go down well with some fans but it's the right thing to do in the circumstances


Totally agree as a matter of respect


Would Queen Elizabeth have cancelled the Derby or Grand National for example? I doubt whether she'd have been in favour of the decision that's just been made.

I hope all the travelling fans who have already travelled or are on route to grounds throughout the country can afford to be so much out of pocket. Ditto all the hospitality venues that have bought extra food, taken on extra staff, and hotels and boarding houses who have to juggle with whether to not they can reimburse clients who will no longer travel.

And will all other sectors follow the lead of the Premier and EFL decision?

What will I do? Well I'm already committed pre-match in Lancaster, so I'll travel up and back home as normal from Scouseport, a 5 hour round trip on public transport.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Angler1 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:53 pm

I think it's the right thing to do, it's only 1match we will back Tuesday ...
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Fri Sep 09, 2022 8:09 pm

Angler1 wrote:I think it's the right thing to do, it's only 1match we will back Tuesday ...


Might be back on Tuesday.

Morecambe v Derby County would have been up there as one of the biggest league matches that we'd ever played. Having travelled for four hours to get to Morecambe, at considerable expense, I probably won't ever get to see this match, as the replay will be mid-week.

Other than the [lack of] football, my life hasn't changed in any meaningful way. The 'right thing' would have been to let people choose to attend or not, as they saw fit. If I was a rugby fan, I'd be allowed to go to a game tomorrow.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby marky No.1 » Fri Sep 09, 2022 9:37 pm

Keith wrote:
Morecambe v Derby County would have been up there as one of the biggest league matches that we'd ever played. Having travelled for four hours to get to Morecambe, at considerable expense, I probably won't ever get to see this match, as the replay will be mid-week. .


I understand your pain Keith, from my selfish point of view I'm glad it wasn't Bristol last week or FGR next week!
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Redalert1970 » Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:40 am

Still no confirmation either way that Sheff Wed or Forest Green games will go ahead either

Let's see Sunday and Monday if there is any more postponements (wouldn't be surprised)
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Phoenix Shrimp 2017 » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:27 am

A week ago yesterday I was in the party stand at Old Trafford for England South Africa cricket. It was definitely a party atmosphere and the same is taking place in London today. Top flight Rugby Union also takes place today.

I’m sure football fans will have ‘mourned’ enough by Tuesday for fixtures to resume!
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:38 am

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:A week ago yesterday I was in the party stand at Old Trafford for England South Africa cricket. It was definitely a party atmosphere and [color=#000000]the same is taking place in London today. Top flight Rugby Union also takes place today. [/color]

I’m sure football fans will have ‘mourned’ enough by Tuesday for fixtures to resume!


That's because cricket in the form of the 3rd Test Match had it's day of mourning yesterday (Friday). Today is the 3rd day of the test and it has become a 3 day match , at least we will get our game albeit on a different date. I believe that the rugby union matches due for last night were cancelled. Horse Racing is cancelled today as a show of respect and will take place tomorrow. Golf also cancelled the 2nd day of the PGA at Wentworth yesterday and a decision is still to be made as to whether they will make up that day.
So anyone suggesting it is just football that is making a sacrifice to show it is in mourning is way off the mark.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby black morse » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:03 am

I still ask the question.....why is it only sport that is being cancelled? Sport is no longer just a pastime (if it ever was) it's big business.

If there were any music festivals on this weekend would they have been cancelled? Fat chance! :lol: :lol:
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:15 am

black morse wrote:If there were any music festivals on this weekend would they have been cancelled? Fat chance! :lol: :lol:


Quite rightly not cancelled. Hawkwind in Morecambe all weekend, with other bands, which is going ahead. Perhaps it isn't cancelled because it isn't run by wealthy sycophants, who have no regard for the fans?
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby outsider » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:32 am

black morse wrote:I still ask the question.....why is it only sport that is being cancelled? Sport is no longer just a pastime (if it ever was) it's big business.

If there were any music festivals on this weekend would they have been cancelled? Fat chance! :lol: :lol:



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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby black morse » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:42 am

Keith wrote:
black morse wrote:If there were any music festivals on this weekend would they have been cancelled? Fat chance! :lol: :lol:


Quite rightly not cancelled. Hawkwind in Morecambe all weekend, with other bands, which is going ahead. Perhaps it isn't cancelled because it isn't run by wealthy sycophants, who have no regard for the fans?


Good lord Keith. You don't think the FA etc might be run by wealthy sycophants do you? :shock:
On second thoughts...you may be right!
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby redrobo » Sat Sep 10, 2022 11:45 am

Her Majesty's funeral will be an official Bank Holiday.....no doubt EVERYBODY will take the day off....

:?: :?: :?:
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Born again Bill » Sat Sep 10, 2022 12:23 pm

redrobo wrote:Her Majesty's funeral will be an official Bank Holiday.....no doubt EVERYBODY will take the day off....

:?: :?: :?:


Surely not ! , it hasn’t changed some peoples lives in any meaningful way . The right thing would be to let people decide to have the extra bank holiday or not as they see fit ! :roll:
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:00 pm

redrobo wrote:Her Majesty's funeral will be an official Bank Holiday.....no doubt EVERYBODY will take the day off....

:?: :?: :?:


Well, my career was in nursing, so I suspect many of my former colleagues will still be working, so we will be a long way short of "EVERYBODY" taking the day off.

Just out of curiosity redrobo, if the FA/EFL had not cancelled football, would you have gone to the Morecambe v Derby game today?
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby redrobo » Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:19 pm

Keith wrote:
redrobo wrote:Her Majesty's funeral will be an official Bank Holiday.....no doubt EVERYBODY will take the day off....

:?: :?: :?:


Well, my career was in nursing, so I suspect many of my former colleagues will still be working, so we will be a long way short of "EVERYBODY" taking the day off.

Just out of curiosity redrobo, if the FA/EFL had not cancelled football, would you have gone to the Morecambe v Derby game today?


Yes I would as I would expect others who show respect unlike others on this and other sites but I would have been mindful of the nations loss and conducted myself in a manner that shows respect towards the loss of a our former head of state.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:31 pm

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Keith wrote:
redrobo wrote:Her Majesty's funeral will be an official Bank Holiday.....no doubt EVERYBODY will take the day off....

:?: :?: :?:


Well, my career was in nursing, so I suspect many of my former colleagues will still be working, so we will be a long way short of "EVERYBODY" taking the day off.

Just out of curiosity redrobo, if the FA/EFL had not cancelled football, would you have gone to the Morecambe v Derby game today?


Yes I would as I would expect others who show respect unlike others on this and other sites but I would have been mindful of the nations loss and conducted myself in a manner that shows respect towards the loss of a our former head of state.


So you think it is right that the club loses many thousands of pounds, fans are not allowed to choose for themselves, and the FA/EFL are correct to force us to mourn in the manner they prescribe, and 'be respectful', by not going to football. However, if you had been given the choice, you would have chosen to be 'disrespectful', by attending the game? That's based upon, if the respectful thing is not to go, then, by definition, going is 'disrespectful'.

I've tried to avoid the subject of 'respect' as much as possible, in a large part because I recognise that many people are indeed grieving the loss of the last monarch. In fact, I'm genuinely surprised by some people's outpouring of grief. However, I don't believe people should be forced to mourn in a particular way. Having that belief is not 'disrespectful', it is freedom of expression. I'm genuinely shocked though, that you needed the FA/EFL to make the correct decision for you.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby redrobo » Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:38 pm

Somehow I doubt you and I will agree on this topic so let me and others continue to show our gratitude and respect for our former head of state.

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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby lancaster shrimp » Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:48 pm

With the funeral date now confirmed, they is no need to postpone any further fixtures imho
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:04 pm

lancaster shrimp wrote:With the funeral date now confirmed, they is no need to postpone any further fixtures imho


Yes, the FA/EFL apparently said games were postponed "Friday, Saturday, Sunday & Monday" so Tuesdays matches should go ahead.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Scouseport_Shrimp » Sat Sep 10, 2022 5:11 pm

According to one of the Derby forums, and the photos on it, lots of Derby supporters decided to make a weekend of it in Morecambe.....one posted this.....

It’s a massive mistake. The whole of the footballing community has effectively been ‘silenced’, prevented from showing their respect. What a spectacle we could have put on. Once the opportunity has passed it is too late. The moment will have gone.

.....absolutely 100% agree with it.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby BHmfc » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:09 pm

Redrobo, thousands of people will be working on the day of the funeral including Police, Fire, Ambulance and Nursing staff. The same staff who will be working Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Boxing Day, New Years Eve, All Bank Holidays, in fact, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 52 weeks of the year, year after year, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby P/T Indie » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:28 pm

My wife is a nurse so will have to work, I have a mon-fri Job but to be honest we are in our busiest time of the year. I have deadlines for applications going into govt depts the day of the funeral not sure how that will work now.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Redalert1970 » Sun Sep 11, 2022 2:09 am

I work in the security industry so I will be working on the day of the funeral

Some people will be lucky and get the day off but there will be thousands of people who will have no choice

I'm also working Xmas day boxing day and New year's day
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:46 am

redrobo wrote:Her Majesty's funeral will be an official Bank Holiday.....no doubt EVERYBODY will take the day off....

:?: :?: :?:


Government has announced there will be no legal obligation for employers to give time off to employees. So you can expect bankers and finance industry etc to be off, but most of the plebs will be working. Shops will be open. If you work in health & social care, security, behind a bar, in a shop... ...etcetera, then you'll probably be working. But if you are in a shop, you'll be listening to mournful/"appropriate"/somber music all day.
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Re: If The Queen Dies...

Postby Keith » Sun Sep 11, 2022 8:48 am

Tuesday's game is on.

EFL Statement:

"EFL fixtures will then recommence on Tuesday 13 September 2022".
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