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Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:02 pm
by Teams like Morecambe
A lot has been said about our awful home record but just how bad is it? This season's stats post Dagenham 17/11.

Home: Played 11 Won 4 Drew 0 Lost 7
Scored 18 (1.6 per game) Conceded 20 (1.8 per game)
Clean sheets 2

Away: Played 11 Won 6 Drew 3 Lost 2
Scored 19 (1.7 per game) Conceded 14 (1.2 per game)
Clean sheets 4

We haven't drawn a game at home so far, its all or nothing. Our confidence is fragile, when teams press us we panic and revert to route 1 rather than play the sexy football we see on the road. Only two clean sheets yet we have four away two of which were against League 1 sides. I don't understand how we can play in such a disciplined manner like we did at Rochdale, defending heroically and counter attacking efficiently yet at home we crumble. Statistics show playing at home is becoming less of an advantage at all levels as counter attacking football is on the rise. Tactically it is evident we suit playing away but that still doesn't explain the extreme panic that shudders through our squad at home.

This is the starting line up v Dagenham and their ages:

Roche (33)
McGowan (19)
Edwards (22)
Parrish (27)
Wilson (29)
Kenyon (23)
Fleming (28)
Barkhuizen (22)
Wildig (23)
Devitt (25)
Miller (28)

Average age of the 10 outfield players 24.6
No outfield player in their 30's

So far this season only three players (Roche, Goodall & Ellison) in their 30's have appeared for us. Looking at that starting line up there is a clear lack of experience. McGowan is just a kid (albeit a very talented one) and Kenyon has come from non league. Edwards, Barkhuizen, Wildig and Devitt all failed to establish themselves at a higher level and were loaned out to numerous clubs where they played a handful of games. They now find themselves as first team regulars and are expected to play consistently well every week. This is a big step up in responsibility which has seen them falter at the Anxiety Arena (suitable new name ;)). Our support is certainly more positive on the road. It doesn't take long at home before the moaning starts. The insults being shouted from a minority in the home terrace are thoughtless and only add to the negative vibe that fills The Globe.

For me our sponsorless stadium doesn't fill me with any more hope and optimism than our visits to Accys much sponsored stadium. We have a squad with big potential but it lacks characters that will stand up and be counted when we're down and the fans are turning on the players.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:12 pm
by Shrimpy
Teams like Morecambe wrote:So far this season only three players (Roche, Goodall & Ellison) in their 30's have appeared for us. Looking at that starting line up there is a clear lack of experience. McGowan is just a kid (albeit a very talented one) and Kenyon has come from non league. Edwards, Barkhuizen, Wildig and Devitt all failed to establish themselves at a higher level and were loaned out to numerous clubs where they played a handful of games. They now find themselves as first team regulars and are expected to play consistently well every week. This is a big step up in responsibility which has seen them falter at the Anxiety Arena (suitable new name ;)).

Not having that as an excuse. Accrington had no one in their side over the age of 27 in their last game with an average age of 23.4 for the outfield players.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:22 pm
by mrpotatohead
I don't think we have anyone outfield that is skipper material, not a bentley, a hughes, a love him or loath him, but respect him character, that you'd follow relentlessly, our team has no strong leader on the pitch, some teams have a couple of characters like that in them ,we have none.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 7:11 pm
by Seasider9601
We will have when Peter Murphy is fully recovered.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:06 pm
by outsider
120% of Stats have been made up. Fact

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:28 pm
by mrpotatohead
probably after the new year, and firing on all cylinders for the last 2 months of the season when we have nothing to play for.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 8:43 pm
by Wild Bill
Teams like Morecambe wrote:A lot has been said about our awful home record but just how bad is it? This season's stats post Dagenham 17/11.

Home: Played 11 Won 4 Drew 0 Lost 7
Scored 18 (1.6 per game) Conceded 20 (1.8 per game)
Clean sheets 2

Away: Played 11 Won 6 Drew 3 Lost 2
Scored 19 (1.7 per game) Conceded 14 (1.2 per game)
Clean sheets 4

We haven't drawn a game at home so far, its all or nothing. Our confidence is fragile, when teams press us we panic and revert to route 1 rather than play the sexy football we see on the road. Only two clean sheets yet we have four away two of which were against League 1 sides. I don't understand how we can play in such a disciplined manner like we did at Rochdale, defending heroically and counter attacking efficiently yet at home we crumble. Statistics show playing at home is becoming less of an advantage at all levels as counter attacking football is on the rise. Tactically it is evident we suit playing away but that still doesn't explain the extreme panic that shudders through our squad at home.

This is the starting line up v Dagenham and their ages:

Roche (33)
McGowan (19)
Edwards (22)
Parrish (27)
Wilson (29)
Kenyon (23)
Fleming (28)
Barkhuizen (22)
Wildig (23)
Devitt (25)
Miller (28)

Average age of the 10 outfield players 24.6
No outfield player in their 30's

So far this season only three players (Roche, Goodall & Ellison) in their 30's have appeared for us. Looking at that starting line up there is a clear lack of experience. McGowan is just a kid (albeit a very talented one) and Kenyon has come from non league. Edwards, Barkhuizen, Wildig and Devitt all failed to establish themselves at a higher level and were loaned out to numerous clubs where they played a handful of games. They now find themselves as first team regulars and are expected to play consistently well every week. This is a big step up in responsibility which has seen them falter at the Anxiety Arena (suitable new name ;)). Our support is certainly more positive on the road. It doesn't take long at home before the moaning starts. The insults being shouted from a minority in the home terrace are thoughtless and only add to the negative vibe that fills The Globe.

For me our sponsorless stadium doesn't fill me with any more hope and optimism than our visits to Accys much sponsored stadium. We have a squad with big potential but it lacks characters that will stand up and be counted when we're down and the fans are turning on the players.


Can't argue with most of that.

Interesting to see our last five years at the Globe vs last five years at CP. Those will be depressing stats.

We have been very good and very bad this season, which suggests a talented squad that perhaps lacks leaders and experienced heads.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 9:02 pm
by Westgate Wanderer
Never win anything with young players and kids! Who said that...

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:16 pm
by Jettyson
Edwards, Barkhuizen, Wildig and Devitt all failed to establish themselves at a higher level and were loaned out to numerous clubs where they played a handful of games.

Check your facts.At 18 Barkhuizen spent a season at Hereford, who were relegated yet he still scored a dozen goals.Played at a higher level but maybe this is his level, hence why he is a regular starter.
Not doing bad on the scoring either..............

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:56 pm
by Teams like Morecambe
Jettyson wrote:Edwards, Barkhuizen, Wildig and Devitt all failed to establish themselves at a higher level and were loaned out to numerous clubs where they played a handful of games.

Check your facts.At 18 Barkhuizen spent a season at Hereford, who were relegated yet he still scored a dozen goals.Played at a higher level but maybe this is his level, hence why he is a regular starter.
Not doing bad on the scoring either..............


Yeah on loan like I stated. His parent club Blackpool play at a higher level where Barkhuizen was unable to establish himself in their first team. He is a class player as are the others I referenced. My point is they lack experience.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:09 pm
by Jettyson
Given that during his time at Blackpool their wingers were (if memory serves) Tom Ince an Matt Phillips its hardly surprising he didn't feature much at that level.
Plus given the last manager played him at full back.......
Jim did well bringing him to us but if he continues to score he will be sold as was Jack (and Miller will be).
Until then ,in my opinion , he should be a regular starter.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:13 pm
by Teams like Morecambe
Jettyson wrote:Given that during his time at Blackpool their wingers were (if memory serves) Tom Ince an Matt Phillips its hardly surprising he didn't feature much at that level.
Plus given the last manager played him at full back.......
Jim did well bringing him to us but if he continues to score he will be sold as was Jack (and Miller will be).
Until then ,in my opinion , he should be a regular starter.


Absolutely, he's a joy to watch. Its been a while since we had a player as quick as him.

Re: Facts and stats

PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:18 pm
by Jettyson
Sadly though I can't see it lasting.
For me we lack a monster in midfield to dominate the middle of the park; get one of those and we would have a real shot at the play offs.
As it stands I think winter pitches suiting physical teams will be our downfall, we have lots of flair but lack a bit of bite.