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o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 24, 2015 2:35 pm

Not that the government are cutting public services to the bone and beyond, but how do people feel about the Fire Service's specialist decontamination unit being scrapped?

http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-up/d ... 5_4ON_FIRE

Apart from being unable to spell 'Morecambe', the report is quite worrying. Isn't the unit there in part at least, due to the risks at the nuclear power station?

Don't know how long it is available on 'catch up'.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby SolentShrimp » Thu Dec 24, 2015 7:00 pm

Kowtowing to the ever increasing demands of Human Rights and Political Correctness have to be paid for.

The money has to come from somewhere. I'd rather it came from cutting Foreign Aid to countries that are known to squander it.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby mrpotatohead » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:10 pm

The primary purpose of these units is for use in the event of accidents or incidents in chemical, nuclear or ,believe it or not, farming industries, so you are pushing it a bit bringing your racism into the conversation here, solent.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby mrpotatohead » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:13 pm

oh, and treating human rights seriously is not ''kowtowing'', its being decent humans.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:25 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:oh, and treating human rights seriously is not ''kowtowing'', its being decent humans.

Before you start spouting shite again you might like to take this case up?the PC and human rights knobs are there to defend these despicable murderer's/what you think Spud?
http://news.sky.com/story/1611598/death ... ackpackers
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:04 pm

shrimpnsave wrote:
mrpotatohead wrote:oh, and treating human rights seriously is not ''kowtowing'', its being decent humans.

Before you start spouting shite again you might like to take this case up?the PC and human rights knobs are there to defend these despicable murderer's/what you think Spud?
http://news.sky.com/story/1611598/death ... ackpackers


No, you are right. Grab a couple of foreigners, torture a confession out of them, then execute them quickly. Wouldn't want to ruin the tourist trade would we? FFS :evil:
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby mrpotatohead » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:12 pm

go and live in thailand then shrimpsave, and do us all a fucking favour.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:13 pm

shrimpnsave wrote:the PC and human rights knobs are there to defend these despicable murderer's


http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/d ... vid-miller

There were concerns about this right from the first arrests and it didn't get any better, but you are right, why would anyone want to try and find the truth?
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:14 pm

Keith wrote:
shrimpnsave wrote:
mrpotatohead wrote:oh, and treating human rights seriously is not ''kowtowing'', its being decent humans.

Before you start spouting shite again you might like to take this case up?the PC and human rights knobs are there to defend these despicable murderer's/what you think Spud?
http://news.sky.com/story/1611598/death ... ackpackers


No, you are right. Grab a couple of foreigners, torture a confession out of them, then execute them quickly. Wouldn't want to ruin the tourist trade would we? FFS :evil:

Correct me but isnt DNA involved here?
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:15 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:go and live in thailand then shrimpsave, and do us all a fucking favour.

No need to sware :lol:
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:19 pm

shrimpnsave wrote:Correct me but isnt DNA involved here?


"The case against the men rests heavily on sperm collected from the crime scene, samples they say were taken from Witheridge’s body. But when the defence asked for an independent retest, police failed to retrieve the samples and one officer suggested they had been destroyed."

So yes, the case does rest on DNA that the prosecution had access to, but not the defence. Don't worry, nothing dodgy in that. No need for pesky human rights or defence, just execute them and forget about it.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:20 pm

Come on spudnut whes US :?:
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:26 pm

Whatever Keith/twist as much as you like,my concern is the families that have had to endure /merry xmas
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby mrpotatohead » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:30 pm

I cant speak for anyone else, so I'll be the bigger man and apologise, you areobviously drunk and you are scaring me, sorry big man.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby shrimpnsave » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:34 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:I cant speak for anyone else, so I'll be the bigger man and apologise, you areobviously drunk and you are scaring me, sorry big man.

Oh well apology accepted ....
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby mrpotatohead » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:41 pm

errrr....dunno about Keith twisting things though , ''mate'?
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:58 pm

shrimpnsave wrote:Whatever Keith/twist as much as you like,my concern is the families that have had to endure /merry xmas


twisting it by answering your question by giving you facts? Okay...
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby SolentShrimp » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:08 am

More unbelievable Human Rights tosh, and who's footing the bill...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... forms.html

The money to pay for all this has to come from somewhere. Any idea where from Mr Potatohead?
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby mrpotatohead » Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:44 am

what a pair of horrible people you are.
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Postby Christies Child » Fri Dec 25, 2015 10:54 am

mrpotatohead wrote:what a pair of horrible people you are.


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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:18 am

SolentShrimp wrote:More unbelievable Human Rights tosh, and who's footing the bill...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... forms.html

The money to pay for all this has to come from somewhere. Any idea where from Mr Potatohead?


How exactly, is that "Human Rights tosh"? Difficult to argue with Mr Potatohead's response. I'm sure if it was with of your human rights being flouted, you'd moan pretty bloody quickly. As it is, your latest attempt at trolling is simply to do with bureaucracy. It's up to government to fix their paperwork isn't it?

Nicely de-railed from the original subject though. Closing the specialist decontamination unit on Morecambe is because the government are forced in to spending money that they could save if only they could abuse people's human rights. How the world would work with you two in charge eh? :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby George Dawes » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:13 pm

Keith wrote:
shrimpnsave wrote:
mrpotatohead wrote:oh, and treating human rights seriously is not ''kowtowing'', its being decent humans.

Before you start spouting shite again you might like to take this case up?the PC and human rights knobs are there to defend these despicable murderer's/what you think Spud?
http://news.sky.com/story/1611598/death ... ackpackers


No, you are right. Grab a couple of foreigners, torture a confession out of them, then execute them quickly. Wouldn't want to ruin the tourist trade would we? FFS :evil:
I agree Keith

I know Thailand and that area well, my mate as a Bar(Legends Bar) on one of the neighboring islands Koh Samui.

I have followed this case, my immediate thought was off duty Thai Policemen, certainly somebody who thinks they're above the Law.

I can understand the Families wanting closure, but was disappointed with their press interview after the verdict thinking justice as been done.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby SolentShrimp » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:29 pm

Keith wrote:How exactly, is that "Human Rights tosh"? Difficult to argue with Mr Potatohead's response. I'm sure if it was with of your human rights being flouted, you'd moan pretty bloody quickly. As it is, your latest attempt at trolling is simply to do with bureaucracy. It's up to government to fix their paperwork isn't it?


The rapist was allowed to remain in Britain under Articles 2 and 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, which guarantee the right to life and prohibit torture.

I wonder what he and other convicted, often violent foreign criminals like him will do to benefit the country that protected their Human Rights? I don't suppose they'll get a job. Instead benefits will be thrown at him. We should rejoice that. :roll:

Why don't you agree that in order to preserve their Human Rights, individuals must exercise a Human Responsibility with the way they live their lives? Fail with that Responsibility, and off you go, no second chance or third chance.

If you have a guest in your house Keith, how do you expect them to behave? And if they don't meet your expectation, what do you do?

In order to keep the Specialist Contamination Unit open, where would you like to see the trade-off to come from? Cutting the flow of financial Foreign Aid to known crooked despots seems fair enough. As does deporting foreign crimals who abuse their own Human Rights by shirking their Human Resposibilities to those Rights.

So I've hardly gone off-topic, as all I'm doing is offering my opinion of ways to keep the Contamination Unit going.
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby Keith » Fri Dec 25, 2015 2:52 pm

Cut foreign aid or make Google/Starbucks/Amazon pay tax? What about the investment banks that paid 0.7% tax on their £30+Billion profit last year?

Or the owner of your beloved Daily Mail, who, although entitled (literally) to sit in the House of Lords and pontificate over us plebs, but is French for tax purposes, so he (and the Daily Mail group) don't pay UK tax. Strange that someone who was born in London, lives in Wiltshire and is personally worth about £1.4 Billion, can claim to be French to avoid UK tax? But no, let's hit poor people instead. Should someone who is worth £1.4 Billion and lives in a £40,000,000 home pay less tax than someone working on a checkout at Tesco?

Cut back the Fire & Rescue Service, underfund the NHS, stop disabled people from claiming benefits if they can't work and moan about 0.7% GDP going to foreign aid, but boost the profits of a billionaire Lord who was born in England, lives in England but doesn't pay any tax in England?
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Re: o/t Specialist decontamination unit scrapped

Postby George Dawes » Fri Dec 25, 2015 4:00 pm

Keith wrote:Cut foreign aid or make Google/Starbucks/Amazon pay tax? What about the investment banks that paid 0.7% tax on their £30+Billion profit last year?

errr both ideally.

I would stop aid to the super power China and India who have more money and resources than us.

if you had a loved one with Cancer and a Doctor told you we could save them, but the NHS is skint, and you then go home and watch the News and see reports of how much we give away in aid each year.

I would love to put the vote to ordinary people in the UK and at least do a compromise by cutting aid(not stopping) and getting our priorities right.

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