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New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:17 pm
by mrpotatohead
We should move the home end into the away end, and convert part of the big building next to it that has the community stuff and gym into a bar to be used by the home end supporters, don't anyone say this is not feasable because it is, I suggested it to a director last week and he said it was a cracking idea, the reduced capacity wouldn't matter as the home end is rarely even half full, so theres my big idea.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:20 pm
by Seasider9601
Atmospherics might be better too??
Good idea that Mr P.
That old chestnut of away coach parking would block it though I guess.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:28 pm
by RedRedWine
Not a bad idea. The perimeter wall would need extenting and the community sports would need moving but I think the former needs to happen anyway.
Somebody suggested something similar in the home end by refurbing the ladies bogs... there are 16 cubicles in there apparently.... I am reliably informed by halftimeresults that during one halftime interval only three ladies used them... what a waste of unutilised space... portaloos in the bit where we keep traffic cones would do the job.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:28 pm
by Keith
You'd hate it for a lot of the time! Can't see a bloody thing when it's sunny during the winter, you're just looking straight in to the sun.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:31 pm
by Seasider9601
Keith wrote:You'd hate it for a lot of the time! Can't see a bloody thing when it's sunny during the winter, you're just looking straight in to the sun.
Nowhere worse than The Wall for straining against the sun....!!
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:33 pm
by Keith
Seasider9601 wrote:Keith wrote:You'd hate it for a lot of the time! Can't see a bloody thing when it's sunny during the winter, you're just looking straight in to the sun.
Nowhere worse than The Wall for straining against the sun....!!
It is! Believe me. One of the advantages of taking photos is I've viewed from everywhere in the ground.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:06 pm
by mrpotatohead
I was going to say I would pay in and have a look next game, but it probably won't be open anyway.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:11 pm
by Seasider9601
Go in disguise as a Stevenage flag, you'll get in then!!
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:17 pm
by George Dawes
the money it would cost making the community gym into a bar, and like RRW said moving the perimeter wall back, the cost of that could pay for a undercover roof in the home end we already have now.
and I thought we were skint?
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:21 pm
by mrpotatohead
An undercover roof would be a poor excuse for a proper bar, the chairman said at the forum that 150k was the estimated cost of building something suitable, I am sure refitting the gym would be far less and far better, cost may be an issue now, but may not be for a new owner.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:28 pm
by shrimpnsave
Why open a thread when you perfectly know that won't happen
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:49 pm
by mrpotatohead
Why not?
It's a perfectly good idea.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:51 pm
by George Dawes
mrpotatohead wrote:An undercover roof would be a poor excuse for a proper bar, the chairman said at the forum that 150k was the estimated cost of building something suitable, I am sure refitting the gym would be far less and far better, cost may be an issue now, but may not be for a new owner.
I do have a building background working in that industry and 150k for a permenent roof is to much, and probably an estimate off a firm trying it on.
I don't think the club have much of a clue and are very vulnerable when dealing with building construction firms, take the Construction of the Globe for example.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Mon Apr 18, 2016 11:42 pm
by RedRedWine
The £150k touted isnt for a roof; its for a permanent structure... I imagine like the away end at Burton Albion.... which is capable of holiding 1/3 of the stand at full capacity as per ground regulations.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 6:07 am
by mrpotatohead
Well we. already have the permanent structure, why bother with thr ''canopy'' , it would be crap anyway.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:29 am
by mrpotatohead
And in answer to your sunshine argument Keith we live in Morecambe!
we play just under half our games at night and out of tbe 13 home saturday matches this season how often has it been sunny
our fans would have the same view as our defenders and goalie...
then again...
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:22 am
by marky No.1
mrpotatohead wrote: out of tbe 13 home saturday matches this season how often has it been sunny
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4, with 10 windy ones, half of which were gales. I think visiting teams are more aware of this than us
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 9:33 am
by Gone_Shrimping
It isn't going to happen.
When a team with a decent support comes the coaches have to go in the car park next to the old housing estate. The police and stewards won't want away fans marching along the front or Carwash side to reach the other terrace.
Our home fans and family stand is in D and E and will have season tickets. This would mean the away fans who want seats will still be in A and possibly B.
The best solution is for the new owner(s) to make the existing home terrace like Burton Albion at the rear.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:11 am
by marky No.1
Gone_Shrimping wrote:It isn't going to happen.
When a team with a decent support comes the coaches have to go in the car park next to the old housing estate. The police and stewards won't want away fans marching along the front or Carwash side to reach the other terrace.
Our home fans and family stand is in D and E and will have season tickets. This would mean the away fans who want seats will still be in A and possibly B.
The best solution is for the new owner(s) to make the existing home terrace like Burton Albion at the rear.
We have to walk through a cow field tonight. Burton type facility should have been there from the beginning
Coaches could park on the land behind the Omega..... oh hang on...
I hope their housing planner hasn't got too many stand facing windows
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:21 pm
by RedRedWine
Gone_Shrimping wrote:When a team with a decent support comes the coaches have to go in the car park next to the old housing estate. The police and stewards won't want away fans marching along the front or Carwash side to reach the other terrace.
Our home fans and family stand is in D and E and will have season tickets. This would mean the away fans who want seats will still be in A and possibly B.
Couldnt you also switch the home and away seating sections around? Facilities view etc are the same in A&B as they are in D&E?
Re coaches; I supsect very few away fans get dropped off and head straight into the ground. What is more likely to happen is they get dropped off at the away end, walk to the Hurley for a drink and then back again?
The current away end affords a better view, generates a better atmosphere beacuse its enclosed on both sides and switching ends will allow us to increase the away capacity for clibs that can shift the tickets.... Blackpool, Carlisle etc.
Its a good idea IMO.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:27 pm
by SupermarketShrimp
SOMEONE HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTIVE ON SHRIMPSVOICES. THE WORLD HAS GONE MAD.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:31 pm
by Shrimpy
There is precedent for this sort of thing. Forest Green for example have switched the home and away ends at their ground in recent years.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:44 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
RedRedWine wrote:Gone_Shrimping wrote:When a team with a decent support comes the coaches have to go in the car park next to the old housing estate. The police and stewards won't want away fans marching along the front or Carwash side to reach the other terrace.
Our home fans and family stand is in D and E and will have season tickets. This would mean the away fans who want seats will still be in A and possibly B.
Couldnt you also switch the home and away seating sections around? Facilities view etc are the same in A&B as they are in D&E?
Re coaches; I supsect very few away fans get dropped off and head straight into the ground. What is more likely to happen is they get dropped off at the away end, walk to the Hurley for a drink and then back again?
The current away end affords a better view, generates a better atmosphere beacuse its enclosed on both sides and switching ends will allow us to increase the away capacity for clibs that can shift the tickets.... Blackpool, Carlisle etc.
Its a good idea IMO.
You could switch our seated fans but from previous experience our fans don't like being moved .
I still think that improving the Omega is the best way forward.
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:54 pm
by John L
Shrimpy wrote:There is precedent for this sort of thing. Forest Green for example have switched the home and away ends at their ground in recent years.
Numerous others do, Lincoln for example since relegation, and Bury seem to do it with the changing of the tides!
Re: New home terrace and bar.
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Tue Apr 19, 2016 12:57 pm
by Christies Child
In fairness to SADARSE it's certainly an idea worthy of further in depth looking at.
It would mean moving home fans in the Stand to a different sector but that shouldn't be too much of a problem.
As far as away coach parking is concerned the coaches could be parked in line at the rear of the Omega Stand which would allow away fans direct access to their area. Vehicles that are currently directed to follow the road behind the Omega and Berlin Wall could very easily turn right at the mini round about and go straight to the car parks . The added advantage of having the coaches park behind the Omega is that it is far easier for both the Police and Stewards to control the away fans and keep the local idiots away from them. It's not that often that we get more than 3 away fans coaches so the parking in line would present no problem and still allow access for emergency vehicles if needed.
As always cost will be a major factor in any development but it is certainly worth a serious look at.