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Urgent council meeting tonight reguarding Morecambe fc

Where's that come from ?

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Mystery surrounds the second round of behind-closed-doors Lancaster City Council talks about Morecambe Football Club in as many weeks.

A council meeting set to take place at Morecambe Town Hall tonight is confidential as the press and public are excluded.

This is because discussions are classed as ‘exempt’ under the Local Government Act.

The council has confirmed that the talks are about Morecambe FC.

According to law, if an agenda item includes information about the financial or business affairs of any particular person, including the local authority, it can be made exempt.

Information is not exempt if it relates to proposed development for which the local planning authority may grant itself planning permission.

The talks were held over from a previous council meeting on April 13 where the item was also exempt.

We understand the adjournment was because councillors wanted more time to consider the issue before making a decision.

It is not clear yet if any decision made at tonight’s meeting will be made public.

http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/news/local/ ... -1-7880116

Got a bad feeling about this one!
How much do we owe the council?

Apart form Business Rates what could we owe them for ?

Pure speculation on my part but wonder if it's anything to do with new proposed development work behind the Berlin Wall.....

Christies Child wrote:Pure speculation on my part but wonder if it's anything to do with new proposed development work behind the Berlin Wall.....

Information is not exempt if it relates to proposed development for which the local planning authority may grant itself planning permission.

http://m.thevisitor.co.uk/news/local/co ... -1-7880116

Oops sorry Shrimpy

...or maybe the council want to take over the club.....

No chance....

halftimeresults wrote:Urgent council meeting tonight reguarding Morecambe fc

dosent say it,s urgent,let,s not panic yet, could be about the work planned for the berlin wall & the hotel PMG was on about.

asda shrimp wrote:

halftimeresults wrote:Urgent council meeting tonight reguarding Morecambe fc

dosent say it,s urgent,let,s not panic yet, could be about the work planned for the berlin wall & the hotel PMG was on about.

It's nothing to do with planning

Article says it can't be because of planning.... Perhaps the council want some new offices; sell their assets and prop up the footy club.... Then I wouldn't mind paying my council tax for my bins not to be collected because I've put a yoghurt pot in the wrong box!

Big red dog will know as he sits on the council prob sworn to secrecy though.

Isn't it great to speculate when we haven't got a clue

OK Here's one - The club is asking for a loan to tide it over until the new investor comes

halftimeresults wrote:

asda shrimp wrote:

halftimeresults wrote:Urgent council meeting tonight reguarding Morecambe fc

dosent say it,s urgent,let,s not panic yet, could be about the work planned for the berlin wall & the hotel PMG was on about.

It's nothing to do with planning

sorry that bit did not sink in.

halftimeresults wrote:Got a bad feeling about this one!
How much do we owe the council?

I don't think they would have had 2 full Council meetings to discuss what would essentially be credit control. They have a Treasurers Department to do that.

Application for a Proposed Sainsburys express to be built on land presently known as ''the Berlin wall'', at the Globe arena, Westgate Morecambe, passed unanimously.

My guess would be a sale on the horizon and they're discussing how far they can stretch the terms of Christie's land deed, if it hasn't been stretched far enough already.

Gnasher wrote:My guess would be a sale on the horizon and they're discussing how far they can stretch the terms of Christie's land deed, if it hasn't been stretched far enough already.

Is that anything to do with the Council ?

Gone_Shrimping wrote:

Gnasher wrote:My guess would be a sale on the horizon and they're discussing how far they can stretch the terms of Christie's land deed, if it hasn't been stretched far enough already.

Is that anything to do with the Council ?

Potentially, yes, I seem to recall that the Christie trust provides for land to be given to the council if it's not used for football - maybe, they need to get council permission when they want to sell off land that could potentially not be there's to sell if it should be ring-fenced for football and then given to LCC if it's not used for the football?

An alternative reason for the meeting may be (again if I remember rightly) regarding a grant from the council to MFC - I seem to remember it's being written off over a number of years, so the "balance" is still in MFC's books as a liability - they may be trying to renegotiate it to get it written off earlier to make the accounts cleaner.

Just remembered another potential "taking point" with the council back in the late 2000s was that the club was required to provide the "community" facilities (behind the Globe) as part of getting LCC approval to sell the westgate land to MFC and transfer the trust over. Presumably, MFC need council approval if they have plans to get rid of some of the community facilities, i.e. perhaps to either use part for the new offices etc or to sell off some of the land for more housing?

There were certainly a number of meetings between the club and the council in the mid to late 2000s to sort out the move, outside the planning aspects that were done through normal planning channels.

KenH wrote:

Gone_Shrimping wrote:

Gnasher wrote:My guess would be a sale on the horizon and they're discussing how far they can stretch the terms of Christie's land deed, if it hasn't been stretched far enough already.

Is that anything to do with the Council ?

Potentially, yes, I seem to recall that the Christie trust provides for land to be given to the council if it's not used for football - maybe, they need to get council permission when they want to sell off land that could potentially not be there's to sell if it should be ring-fenced for football and then given to LCC if it's not used for the football?

An alternative reason for the meeting may be (again if I remember rightly) regarding a grant from the council to MFC - I seem to remember it's being written off over a number of years, so the "balance" is still in MFC's books as a liability - they may be trying to renegotiate it to get it written off earlier to make the accounts cleaner.

There were certainly a number of meetings between the club and the council in the mid to late 90s to sort out the move, outside the planning aspects that were done through normal planning channels.

The Loan from the Council was for the Christie North Stand and was repaid some time ago , possibly even ahead of schedule.

I've just been on Companies House and a charge was registered on 20 April 2016. No details about what this is in respect of yet though.

We recieved an interest free loan that still to this day winds Lancaster fans up. It was paid back but did we not fall behind in paying it back?

Gone_Shrimping wrote:I've just been on Companies House and a charge was registered on 20 April 2016. No details about what this is in respect of yet though.

Does that not relate to the yellow car park?

According to the latest accounts (Y.e 31/5/14), there's still a balance of £25,786 under the heading "government grants" (note 13) and shown on the balance sheet under "accruals and deferred income" some of it being written off each year. There is a council committee meeting minute on the internet mentioning a grant from LCC to MFC as part of the deal to move to Westgate. I think all this is different to any loans - they'd been shown elsewhere in the accounts and would have be shown as being paid off each year, not written off.

It looks as if they're doing a "tidy up" exercise with the charges etc so it would make sense to renegotiate or write off any long term grants too, all to try and get a "clean" balance sheet for any new owners.