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I've often thought that the club should produce some season wall planners for use by fans and local companies just as they evidently do at Accy.

It's little things like this that don't cost a fortune but get details of the seasons games publicised throughout the town and beyond that we seem to be not pro active in producing.

Terrible idea.

You don't know the fixtures for half the year unless you did them July to July and who wants a wall planner that breaks it up like that!

Hows about a calendar instead then....

Point is we have little promotional tools that could be distributed to all Take Aways, Shops and Offices etc.

Anything that promotes the club and its games surely is a good idea to at least look into.

I seem to recall many, many seasons ago we did have a single full colour A2 sheet that was hung in various establishments throughout the town.

Maybe even get the item sponsored by a local business to cover part or all of the cost...

SupermarketShrimp wrote:Terrible idea.

You don't know the fixtures for half the year unless you did them July to July and who wants a wall planner that breaks it up like that!

So what would you suggest as an alternative......

Or do we just do nothing as usual.....

Christies Child wrote:Hows about a calendar instead then....

Point is we have little promotional tools that could be distributed to all Take Aways, Shops and Offices etc.

Anything that promotes the club and its games surely is a good idea to at least look into.

I seem to recall many, many seasons ago we did have a single full colour A2 sheet that was hung in various establishments throughout the town.

Maybe even get the item sponsored by a local business to cover part or all of the cost...

FCoM wanted to do a calendar July to July including the fixtures and pictures etc. But were told we couldn't as "Image Rights" come into it, Even at our level.

outsider wrote:

Christies Child wrote:Hows about a calendar instead then....

Point is we have little promotional tools that could be distributed to all Take Aways, Shops and Offices etc.

Anything that promotes the club and its games surely is a good idea to at least look into.

I seem to recall many, many seasons ago we did have a single full colour A2 sheet that was hung in various establishments throughout the town.

Maybe even get the item sponsored by a local business to cover part or all of the cost...

FCoM wanted to do a calendar July to July including the fixtures and pictures etc. But were told we couldn't as "Image Rights" come into it, Even at our level.

I suggested it as a club merchandise idea a few years ago, but I remember Mark S quickly laughing it off as a crazy idea...

outsider wrote:

Christies Child wrote:Hows about a calendar instead then....

Point is we have little promotional tools that could be distributed to all Take Aways, Shops and Offices etc.

Anything that promotes the club and its games surely is a good idea to at least look into.

I seem to recall many, many seasons ago we did have a single full colour A2 sheet that was hung in various establishments throughout the town.

Maybe even get the item sponsored by a local business to cover part or all of the cost...

FCoM wanted to do a calendar July to July including the fixtures and pictures etc. But were told we couldn't as "Image Rights" come into it, Even at our level.

So how have Stanley got around it...or maybe they just ignore the image rights and take whatever punishment is dished or maybe being such a small club the image rights peole just ignore them....

John L wrote:

outsider wrote:

Christies Child wrote:Hows about a calendar instead then....

Point is we have little promotional tools that could be distributed to all Take Aways, Shops and Offices etc.

Anything that promotes the club and its games surely is a good idea to at least look into.

I seem to recall many, many seasons ago we did have a single full colour A2 sheet that was hung in various establishments throughout the town.

Maybe even get the item sponsored by a local business to cover part or all of the cost...

FCoM wanted to do a calendar July to July including the fixtures and pictures etc. But were told we couldn't as "Image Rights" come into it, Even at our level.

I suggested it as a club merchandise idea a few years ago, but I remember Mark S quickly laughing it off as a crazy idea...

Did he suggest an alternative by any chance.....

Is their a Team Photo this season and if so where is it.....

Where is the official word from the EFL about image rights.

There is one on the Premier League but EFL...

Christies Child wrote:Where is the official word from the EFL about image rights.

There is one on the Premier League but EFL...

There definitely is one. Quite what the club would need to do to overcome this, I don't know?

If the planner is for the football season, then the easiest answer would be for it to use images taken during pre-season friendly matches.

I think the problem is players image right's. If you are planning on selling them.

Christies Child wrote:

John L wrote:

outsider wrote:FCoM wanted to do a calendar July to July including the fixtures and pictures etc. But were told we couldn't as "Image Rights" come into it, Even at our level.

I suggested it as a club merchandise idea a few years ago, but I remember Mark S quickly laughing it off as a crazy idea...

Did he suggest an alternative by any chance.....

I don't recall he did...

Get that sign back on Skerton Bridge, we'll DOUBLE our attendance!

outsider wrote:I think the problem is players image right's. If you are planning on selling them.

Can't be much of a problem - at last week's fan's open day, they were selling A3 sheets with photos of the current squad for the kids to buy and the player's to sign their photos. Don't see any difference to that as opposed to some kind of calendar/planner.

Im all for promoting Callenders, sounds like a plan.
I have to write her one out every time the fixtures are announced.

marky No.1 wrote:Im all for promoting Callenders, sounds like a plan.
I have to write her one out every time the fixtures are announced.

Reg would have loved promoting Callenders

Did you get 18CYL

Christies Child wrote:

SupermarketShrimp wrote:Terrible idea.

You don't know the fixtures for half the year unless you did them July to July and who wants a wall planner that breaks it up like that!

So what would you suggest as an alternative......

Or do we just do nothing as usual.....

A proper Commercial Manager with a proper digital, print and word of mouth strategies to increase our reach across the community engaging and utilising our community programmes with both the floating consumer and major local businesses.

Just for a starter for ten, I'd be engaging with our players to see what their plans are after football. A vast chunk will no doubt see coaching/personal fitness as an avenue post football. Id get all these people CRB checked, and volunteering taking PE lessons at schools across Lancaster/Morecambe. These PE lessons will involve the chucking out of free child tickets for the following game. [EDIT: Has everyone gone all potty mouth tonight?], you could even pitch the schools against each other at half time after the lessons if you did two a week.

I'd also be actively expanding our reach by properly using Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, the whole 9 yards. It's great what Freez, Swidz and the gang do but they are essentially volunteers.

In 10 years various things have entered the club to bring us into the 21st Century, but many things we do not.

The club still suffers a disconnect from the players and the board to the fans that has been growing for at least 3 years, argubly since the move to Westgate and getting someone in on the payroll and incentivised accordingly on expanding non football earnings and crowd size.

Or we can spend a few hundred quid on a calendar/wallplanner no one needs or wants in 2016.

Will take issue with the thinking that nobody wants a calendar or Wall Planner.

My suggestion of it being used in Take Aways, Shops and Offices is still valid despite the negativity of the above post.



I'll take it for granted that when they are issued FOC to whoever wants one you will decline....

And on the subject of signs such as the one that used to be at Skerton Bridge , then Barrow seem to think they still have some purpose :-

http://www.barrowafc.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24032

SupermarketShrimp wrote: I'd also be actively expanding our reach by properly using Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, the whole 9 yards. It's great what Freez, Swidz and the gang do but they are essentially volunteers.

This is by far and away the main thing the club should be pushing, not some posters in your local takeaway which is prehistoric and would have no impact at all.

The Facebook page has over 23,000 likes so any posts are going directly onto at least as many phones, tablets, computers. Yet, we have a game on Saturday and there has been no post since last Sunday and the only reference to the game so far is a change in the profile cover photo.

Keith wrote:

Christies Child wrote:Where is the official word from the EFL about image rights.

There is one on the Premier League but EFL...

There definitely is one. Quite what the club would need to do to overcome this, I don't know?

If the planner is for the football season, then the easiest answer would be for it to use images taken during pre-season friendly matches.

As Keith said, there most certainly are image rights. Any photograph taken inside a league ground does not belong to the photographer, as Stanley's photographer Kipax explains here http://www.kipax.com/index.php?e=licence. I know how Stanley get away with match photos on a separate site but MFC, having signed up some years ago to the league's own website mechanism, can't.

Morecambe Jack wrote:

SupermarketShrimp wrote: I'd also be actively expanding our reach by properly using Facebook, Snapchat, Twitter, Instagram, the whole 9 yards. It's great what Freez, Swidz and the gang do but they are essentially volunteers.

This is by far and away the main thing the club should be pushing, not some posters in your local takeaway which is prehistoric and would have no impact at all.

The Facebook page has over 23,000 likes so any posts are going directly onto at least as many phones, tablets, computers. Yet, we have a game on Saturday and there has been no post since last Sunday and the only reference to the game so far is a change in the profile cover photo.

Sorry but will have to disagree with that one.

What about those who don't use Social media and of those who do how many are actually reading about MFC. Only a very small percentage I would suggest.

Anyhow something is better than nothing.

Something is not better than nothing if its counter-productive. A Facebook post costs nothing, posters to stick around all the town's dirty takeaways costs time, money, effort. The former is much more likely to get read, get read by more people, and actually result in more people coming to a game.

Get with the times.

There's need for all sorts of media to reach potential punters.

I worked for Blackpool Pleasure Beach for the late Geoffrey Thompson and he was a great believer in good signage etc.

So, other than the fact Accrington have just done it, why these fantastic calendars and not signs in supermarkets, on Skelton bridge or other prominent places round the area. Why not posters in windows that the club used to do. Why not local advertising on the bay and in the visitor?

Why are calendars going to do all the things these other things we've tried and failed to do to get people through the gates?

Christies Child wrote:Anyhow something is better than nothing.

As someone who is fond of mentioning their business background, you will know that if the outlay exceeds the return then your statement is rubbish.