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Does anybody know if Peter Mcguigan still holds shares in the club?

Nobody knows but talk is that he no longer has a financial interest in the club but still attends...after all you don't suddenly cut all ties with a club that you have been a major party in its development over many years....despite recent totally uncalled for criticism from certain parties.

Didn't see his car in the car park last night though.

Nor the flash Range Rover that Diego arrived in on Sunday.

Diego was in attendance last night, and seemed thrilled at our win....

From where I was, no sign of PMG.

JPH wrote:Diego was in attendance last night, and seemed thrilled at our win....

From where I was, no sign of PMG.

Yes , I was sat very near to Diego last night and he was cheering when that goal rush came. He was adjacent to Rod which was a reassuring sight.

If Diego is a decent guy you would think he would not to be communicating with us as much as possible to try and make it look like the issues are not down to him (instead of him getting bad press) and is doing his best to resolve them, unless he can't due to confidentiality reasons.

I still find it very odd he hasn't had much to say at all since arriving or is it because not all the paperwork/transfer for the takeover has been finalised yet so he can't.

Christies Child wrote:despite recent totally uncalled for criticism from certain parties.

So... a chairman can't be criticised for decisions he makes and the way he runs the club and it's finances but a manager can for the decisions he makes...frequently and much worse than what PmG has had over the past few weeks months and year's.

I don't think pmG deserves any badmouthing but if one lot's 'uncalled for..' what about the other?

P/T Indie wrote:If Diego is a decent guy you would think he would not to be communicating with us as much as possible to try and make it look like the issues are not down to him (instead of him getting bad press) and is doing his best to resolve them, unless he can't due to confidentiality reasons.

I still find it very odd he hasn't had much to say at all since arriving or is it because not all the paperwork/transfer for the takeover has been finalised yet so he can't.

Such a delicate situation the worst thing to do is to go public.

It would be nice to know if we are to panic about administration or not though.

Either one of them is a ballbag or they both are, which one, or both we may never know, whichever way it pans out, 2 millionaires did a deal without regard for the staff.

I understand not wanting to go public but surely he could just say we are working hard to resolve the unfortunate issue regarding wages and hope that in the next couple of weeks everything will be fine and we will then hold a fans forum where I look forward to meeting the fans and discussing with you our plans for taking the club forward.

P/T Indie wrote:I understand not wanting to go public but surely he could just say we are working hard to resolve the unfortunate issue regarding wages and hope that in the next couple of weeks everything will be fine and we will then hold a fans forum where I look forward to meeting the fans and discussing with you our plans for taking the club forward.

He's pretty much done that already aside from holding a fans forum. In his first press release regarding the wages:

want to reassure everyone that the issues will be resolved soon

I want to stress that this is is a short term problem and assure fans that we have robust plans in place for the future of our great club

want to stress that we are totally committed to taking this club forward and see it continue to grow

mrpotatohead wrote:Either one of them is a ballbag or they both are, which one, or both we may never know, whichever way it pans out, 2 millionaires did a deal without regard for the staff.

You sure about that.....

Does anyone else remember Peters pre prepared speech at the fans forum

He said the club had gone to an agent who would advertise the club / business on an international market


What if the agent / agency, mis-sold the product

Peter and co would be innocent, Diego and co would be unfortunate buyers, the agency would be accountable




I trust Peter and co, I believe in Diego and co,

Christies Child wrote:

mrpotatohead wrote:Either one of them is a ballbag or they both are, which one, or both we may never know, whichever way it pans out, 2 millionaires did a deal without regard for the staff.

You sure about that.....

Neil, It's entirely possible that Posh's hypothetical scenario as outlined elsewhere is correct, whereby an agreement was reached between the two, but now that Diego is getting fully into the due diligence he is finding that not everything is as he was led to believe. Similarly it is entirely possible that Diego made promises about financing that are now unravelling. Then again MPH may be right about it being down to arguing between the two of them. If you, like me, are completely in the dark and have no insider knowledge, it might be advisable to bite the bullet and await the dust settling (if it ever does), when we might be afforded a little more information on which to base our opinions, rather than challenging anyone who seems to criticise a man who you seem to think can do no wrong. I fully acknowledge what Peter has done for Morecambe, and I am expressly not casting any aspersions in any direction, just advising that all of us (not just you Neil) step back and think a little before making any rash statements (not that what you've said above is particularly rash, again just for clarification). Hopefully it will work out in the long run and we'll find out (diplomatically, I hope) what really has happened.

This is not intended to insult, demean or challenge anyone's point of view, so apologies if anyone feels that way, I'm merely trying to pour a little oil on troubled water.

Phil Anderer wrote:

Christies Child wrote:

mrpotatohead wrote:Either one of them is a ballbag or they both are, which one, or both we may never know, whichever way it pans out, 2 millionaires did a deal without regard for the staff.

You sure about that.....

Neil, It's entirely possible that Posh's hypothetical scenario as outlined elsewhere is correct, whereby an agreement was reached between the two, but now that Diego is getting fully into the due diligence he is finding that not everything is as he was led to believe. Similarly it is entirely possible that Diego made promises about financing that are now unravelling. Then again MPH may be right about it being down to arguing between the two of them. If you, like me, are completely in the dark and have no insider knowledge, it might be advisable to bite the bullet and await the dust settling (if it ever does), when we might be afforded a little more information on which to base our opinions, rather than challenging anyone who seems to criticise a man who you seem to think can do no wrong. I fully acknowledge what Peter has done for Morecambe, and I am expressly not casting any aspersions in any direction, just advising that all of us (not just you Neil) step back and think a little before making any rash statements (not that what you've said above is particularly rash, again just for clarification). Hopefully it will work out in the long run and we'll find out (diplomatically, I hope) what really has happened.

This is not intended to insult, demean or challenge anyone's point of view, so apologies if anyone feels that way, I'm merely trying to pour a little oil on troubled water.

Spoil sport

Phil Anderer wrote:

Christies Child wrote:

mrpotatohead wrote:Either one of them is a ballbag or they both are, which one, or both we may never know, whichever way it pans out, 2 millionaires did a deal without regard for the staff.

You sure about that.....

Neil, It's entirely possible that Posh's hypothetical scenario as outlined elsewhere is correct, whereby an agreement was reached between the two, but now that Diego is getting fully into the due diligence he is finding that not everything is as he was led to believe. Similarly it is entirely possible that Diego made promises about financing that are now unravelling. Then again MPH may be right about it being down to arguing between the two of them. If you, like me, are completely in the dark and have no insider knowledge, it might be advisable to bite the bullet and await the dust settling (if it ever does), when we might be afforded a little more information on which to base our opinions, rather than challenging anyone who seems to criticise a man who you seem to think can do no wrong. I fully acknowledge what Peter has done for Morecambe, and I am expressly not casting any aspersions in any direction, just advising that all of us (not just you Neil) step back and think a little before making any rash statements (not that what you've said above is particularly rash, again just for clarification). Hopefully it will work out in the long run and we'll find out (diplomatically, I hope) what really has happened.

This is not intended to insult, demean or challenge anyone's point of view, so apologies if anyone feels that way, I'm merely trying to pour a little oil on troubled water.

To make it absolutely clear while I expressed disappointment at how the previous owners worked with myself In the last couple of years at no time have I implied, suggested or said that there was any financial or other impropriety on the former owners part. The sale of a company comes with what are known as warranties and indemnities, essentially a recourse to take action should things not be as stated during the marketing, sale and due diligence process. They would be bound by that and there'a little value in misrepresentation. A discovery of difference could be watching a big crowd against Blackpool and Premier League Bournemouth one week and then coming back to crowds a third the size against Exeter and booing. Again it was merely a suggested possibility that there was a change of perspective.

Posh wrote:To make it absolutely clear while I expressed disappointment at how the previous owners worked with myself In the last couple of years at no time have I implied, suggested or said that there was any financial or other impropriety on the former owners part. The sale of a company comes with what are known as warranties and indemnities, essentially a recourse to take action should things not be as stated during the marketing, sale and due diligence process. They would be bound by that and there'a little value in misrepresentation. A discovery of difference could be watching a big crowd against Blackpool and Premier League Bournemouth one week and then coming back to crowds a third the size against Exeter and booing. Again it was merely a suggested possibility that there was a change of perspective.

Posh, I didn't intend to suggest otherwise, I was merely trying to offer different potential scenarios of which few, if any, of us know the true one. Apologies if I misinterpreted anything or anything I said was misinterpreted.

I too am open minded as to who's fault the situation developed where the clubs loyal hardworking staff were royally shafted , but it is obviously somebodys fault, and it's given the club a heap of bad publicity.

Which indeed we could well do without.

My personal fear is that some of the goings on and problems this past week might (potentially) put players off in signing for us in the future.

Hopefully not, and it'll all get resolved and we move on - stronger. Hopefully.