Sad. sad situation....

[Christies Child]

Whatever happens in the days, weeks, months ahead, one thing is for certain that all those Directors and Fans who have been a part no matter how small in the rise (and fall ) of OUR club over the years can only look at the current situation with sorrow and ask where has it all gone wrong.

Maybe our ambitions to be a Football league club have been the deep routed cause of where we find oursleves. The Board worked hard to deliver a team and stadium fit to establish the club as an FL club but the lack of finances generated by the club itself resulted in the financial burdon being on the shoulders of the Directors and the Chairman which it looks as though have proved too much to continue.

New potential backers have been wined and dined and various offers to take over the reigns where made but didn't meet the club's criteria. And unfortunately the one that appeared to tick all the boxes would appear to have renaged on his / their promises.

Whatever the future holds for Morecambe FC this current period of a total lack of openess by the current owner ( whoever that is ) is only making a sad, sad situation all the more upsetting for Directors and fans...past and current.



Rod, David, Michael the fans need someone to come onto SVs or the OWS and let us know what is going on....PLEASE...

[Shrimpy]

Maybe our ambitions to be a Football league club have been the deep routed casue of where we find oursleves. The Board worked hard to deliver a team and stadium fit to establish the club as an FL club but the lack of finances generated by the club itself resulted in the financial burdon being on the shoulders of the Directors and the Chairman which it looks as though have proved too much to continue.

BINGO!

[John L]

A bit more openness from PMcG wouldn't go / have gone amiss either.

It's all gone quiet over there...

[steve mfc]

Well I just had a quick look on Wikipedia and there are about 60 football clubs listed as having entered administration some of them appear more than once and four ended up being dissolved so it goes to show the extent of the problem. You can bet in probably every case its because a club has lived beyond its means, the thing is nobody complains when things are going well and success is being achieved because an owner is prepared to fund the short fall.

How many more clubs are like us teetering on the brink or waiting for their current owner to call it a day leaving them in an untenable position.

[black morse]

Maybe our ambitions to be a Football league club have been the deep routed casue of where we find oursleves. The Board worked hard to deliver a team and stadium fit to establish the club as an FL club but the lack of finances generated by the club itself resulted in the financial burdon being on the shoulders of the Directors and the Chairman which it looks as though have proved too much to continue.

BINGO!

I suspect the ambition to remain a FL club no matter what was an even bigger cause. I know it's not a view held by many on here but we were always punching above our weight with the support we got and sooner or later we were going back down......I just didn't really think this was the way it would happen.

[black morse]

Well I just had a quick look on Wikipedia and there are about 60 football clubs listed as having entered administration some of them appear more than once and four ended up being dissolved so it goes to show the extent of the problem. You can bet in probably every case its because a club has lived beyond its means, the thing is nobody complains when things are going well and success is being achieved because an owner is prepared to fund the short fall.

How many more clubs are like us teetering on the brink or waiting for their current owner to call it a day leaving them in an untenable position.

Quite a few but the difference is that a fair number of these clubs have got a much bigger fan base than us and are a better proposition for someone to take them over.

[Gnasher]

Seriously Neil, are you still putting all the blame on Diego? There are no facts on which to make a judgement, there's no statements being put out by the club with the exception of a resignation statement.

We don't know what has gone on, what was said or promised. Diego might be considering legal action over a bum deal. We simply haven't got a clue and until some facts are known, anyone could be as innocent or guilty as the rest.

[Christies Child]

Seriously Neil, are you still putting all the blame on Diego? There are no facts on which to make a judgement, there's no statements being put out by the club with the exception of a resignation statement.

We don't know what has gone on, what was said or promised. Diego might be considering legal action over a bum deal. We simply haven't got a clue and until some facts are known, anyone could be as innocent or guilty as the rest.

If the club's Vice Chairman can't get answers to his concerns from Diego and as a result has quit, what other conclusion can be made other than Diego is on the face of it the cause of the problem.

So in answer to your question...YES I am blaming Diego.

I do however accept that other fans may wish to put the blame on the shoulders of others.

[Gnasher]

I'm not putting the blame on anyone yet. Don't you think the lack of information from anyone, including the person who sold the shares to Diego, is a concern?

[Christies Child]

I'm not putting the blame on anyone yet. Don't you think the lack of information from anyone, including the person who sold the shares to Diego, is a concern?

Yes...it's of major concern to us all and even more so that the three Directors responsible for the take over negotiations have seen two no longer at games and the third having quit

Maybe it's time that I and others stopped playing the blame game and put forward suggestions as to how the club can self finance the monthly short fall of circa £50 k per month.

It's not easy coming up with ideas,.is it

[Seasider9601]

For anyone on Facebook have a look at a post just gone on the Fans Club page about Abdullah.

I've shared it on my page for anyone who is my friend on there.

It makes for grim reading.

[Christies Child]

For anyone on Facebook have a look at a post just gone on the Fans Club page about Abdullah.

I've shared it on my page for anyone who is my friend on there.

It makes for grim reading.

For anyone on Facebook have a look at a post just gone on the Fans Club page about Abdullah.

I've shared it on my page for anyone who is my friend on there.

It makes for grim reading.

Any chance it could be posted on here for those of us not using Facebook

[jon MFC fan]

on Facebook "Check out Lemos's right hand man Abdulrahman Al Hashemi, he's a 24 yr old Qatar playboy, living in London as a student, and trying to raise crowdfunding for an online fashion website he's trying to promote. He has his own Facebook account, check it out .... This type of person has no interest in Morecambe FC and the fact he is a director of MFC is an insult to MFC fans. No doubt Lemos has the same background."

[Seasider9601]

Thanks Jon - was just about to do that. Cheers pal.

[Posh]

Maybe our ambitions to be a Football league club have been the deep routed casue of where we find oursleves. The Board worked hard to deliver a team and stadium fit to establish the club as an FL club but the lack of finances generated by the club itself resulted in the financial burdon being on the shoulders of the Directors and the Chairman which it looks as though have proved too much to continue.

BINGO!

OK. In my view there was absolutely nothing wrong with targeting promotion to the Football League. The problem was it became everything and all that was good about Morecambe FC went out of the window. Not at the demand of the fans but at the owners control.

We'd become a club that found young talent and developed it - Thompson, Perkins, Carlton, Hunter, Curtis, Smith etc. That went out of the window when Jim Harvey was sacked.

We were an egalitarian club with the North Stand as good a place to watch as the Main Stand. All were equal sharing the same bar and facilities. That went out with the new ground design.

We were a club that encouraged volunteers and the support of companies. That went out of the window when it became a personal fiefdom with the magnificent ego of his name on the stand and his unqualified friends running the design of the ground in an incredibly cack-handed fashion.

This is a club built on pies and pints whose owner decided, without any customer consultation, that he would flog us wild boar stakes for £23 in a bar that looks like an airport lounge.

This is not about a battle for the Football League but one of money, ego and arrogance. Who was there when loans were repaid to shareholders when we received the Sainsbury's cash? Who got the money when Directors bought the land and gave it to the club for its future not short-term personal gain? Who sold us short to a Brazilian kid who played FIFA agent?

We could have built a great Football League club instead we've built one man's folly. Hopefully we'll never make the same mistake again.

[Westgate Wanderer]

If it wasn't for PMG we would NEVER have got into the Football League! Perhaps the rot started under the previous (experienced) manager, then the current (inexperienced) manager took over and the crowds declined,losing the club money. The product we have watched on the pitch over the last few years HAS to come into the equation.As everybody says "we're all in it together" can't just blame one person!!

[Posh]

If it wasn't for PMG we would NEVER have got into the Football League! Perhaps the rot started under the previous (experienced) manager, then the current manager took over and the crowds declined,losing the club money. The product we have watched o n the pitch over the last few years HAS to come into the equation.As everybody says "we're all in it together" can't just blame one person!!

All the decisions you quote were the owners to hire them and fire them. Short-term gain but long-term pain. Players like Carl Baker, Mark Duffy and Garry Thompson couldn't wait to leave under Sammy Mac and their replacements were straight out of an agent's catalogue. PMG knew the risks but didn't build the foundations.

[Seasider9601]

Just my opinion, but now is NOT the time to start the style of football debate again.

Jim is doing his best in atrocious circumstances.

As I say - just my opinion.

[Westgate Wanderer]

So free ride for Jim but not for the man who put him there!! Wonderful... Just my opinion but we took the expensive option for the ground and the cheaper option for management!! Iam entitled to my opinion and as long as there is a Morecambe fc i will be there to watch! Night

[mrpotatohead]

Morecambe FC was the ''town team'' for 80 years or so, in my youth ,we all supported a top flight team, but ''went to watch Morecambe'', in the lower leagues, the name ''Christie park'' and ''JB Christie'' , being synonymous with the club, JB gave us football in the town forever, chairmen came and went , became forgotten , but everyone knew who christie was.

The modern era saw PMG and his ambitions arrive, PMG took us to new heights in football success, but whilst we were at ''Christie park, we were always , JB Christies town team.

In my opinion, the move to the Globe arena was nothing to do with stability, progress or neccessity, it was about ego, it was about a landmark with the chairmans name on it , it was about ''forget about Christie park, forget about the small team, its all about Peter!

Sorry PMG, the only thing you will be remembered for is destroying our history, if not our club.

[morecambegeek]

I would say most people in senior positions at the club are culpable in one way or another.

Some are much more culpable than others.

No one is exempt from criticism, but now isn't the time to criticise some of those involved, but to seek answers.

[Trevor]

Jim has only ever been an honest man doing his best in difficult circumstances with no other motivation than putting a team out to do the best it can.
He hasn't been motivated by working out what's the best cash return he can get. That just my opinion.

[mrpotatohead]

Yes I agree about Jim, and his loyal hardworking staff , but MG, your culpabilty comment aiimed at the minor directors is a bit uncalled for, there has been nothing illegal or untoward occuring prior to the takeover, so they are culpable for what? giving up money and time to help,keep the club they love afloat isn't illegal, whatever happens next the remaining board members are important to the stability of the club and are blameless, unless you know otherwise?

[Wild Bill]

Maybe our ambitions to be a Football league club have been the deep routed casue of where we find oursleves. The Board worked hard to deliver a team and stadium fit to establish the club as an FL club but the lack of finances generated by the club itself resulted in the financial burdon being on the shoulders of the Directors and the Chairman which it looks as though have proved too much to continue.

BINGO!

OK. In my view there was absolutely nothing wrong with targeting promotion to the Football League. The problem was it became everything and all that was good about Morecambe FC went out of the window. Not at the demand of the fans but at the owners control.

We'd become a club that found young talent and developed it - Thompson, Perkins, Carlton, Hunter, Curtis, Smith etc. That went out of the window when Jim Harvey was sacked.

We were an egalitarian club with the North Stand as good a place to watch as the Main Stand. All were equal sharing the same bar and facilities. That went out with the new ground design.

We were a club that encouraged volunteers and the support of companies. That went out of the window when it became a personal fiefdom with the magnificent ego of his name on the stand and his unqualified friends running the design of the ground in an incredibly cack-handed fashion.

This is a club built on pies and pints whose owner decided, without any customer consultation, that he would flog us wild boar stakes for £23 in a bar that looks like an airport lounge.

This is not about a battle for the Football League but one of money, ego and arrogance. Who was there when loans were repaid to shareholders when we received the Sainsbury's cash? Who got the money when Directors bought the land and gave it to the club for its future not short-term personal gain? Who sold us short to a Brazilian kid who played FIFA agent?

We could have built a great Football League club instead we've built one man's folly. Hopefully we'll never make the same mistake again.

Pretty much agree with all of this. I think PMG's attitude when he build the Omega Stand was if you didn't like it, pay to go into the PMG Stand. This alienated 100s of fans from the off and we have been losing more each season ever since.

Lets face it, as soon as the Globe was built MFC was a business and one he couldn't wait to get rid off.

[morecambegeek]

Yes I agree about Jim, and his loyal hardworking staff , but MG, your culpabilty comment aiimed at the minor directors is a bit uncalled for, there has been nothing illegal or untoward occuring prior to the takeover, so they are culpable for what? giving up money and time to help,keep the club they love afloat isn't illegal, whatever happens next the remaining board members are important to the stability of the club and are blameless, unless you know otherwise?

My post could have been worded better, but I stand by what I say.

There has been a malaise at the club for 5 years that got it to the point where it was not viable and had to be sold.

Was Jim responsible for question team selection and overly negative tactics that drove away fans? Yes. The fact he is doing the best he can now on extremely limited resources doesn't change that, but now isn't the time to have a go at him about that.

Since the club moved to the globe, there have been questionable decisions in what has been built. opened. An absolutely shameful malaise set in. Poor communication with fans, lack of advertising, general ineptitude. Everyone involved in the running of the club takes some degree of responsibility for the decisions.

The position the club finds it in now is solely down to the current/ex chairman and Mr Lemos.

However, those involved up to that point also shoulder some of the blame. I have no doubt that they invested their money and gave up their time with the best of intentions - and without doing so, the club would not have risen to it's current position. I'm grateful for what they've done in that respect.

But I find it difficult to believe than many, if any, of the people involved in the running of the club are truely "blameless". Others are welcome to their opinion - but the desire to find a single scapegoat is overly simplistic in the demise of the club.