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Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:44 am
by marky No.1
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Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:33 am
by paschahound
That's very sad.
These places are victims of a huge number of variabes, such as the weather, cheap and copious flights, filthy beaches, cheaper holidays abroad (a great 4 star, or off-season 5 star place in Phuket is often cheaper than a b&b), the policy in the 80's of moving in and subbing undesirables from inner cities, lack of initiave from local councils, too much money spent trying to prop up outdated attractions (the Winter Gardens), a massive increase in multiculturalism, local councils allowing the establishment of far too many amusement arcades, reduced popularity of politically incorrect comedians, travel shows on TV focussing on holidays abroad...
To be fair, since the 80's, they haven't stood a chance and far too much money has been spent flogging dead horses.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:55 am
by George Dawes
been going on over 30+ years or so now, we all know the reasons why.

I was reading a recent article/survey suggesting British Seaside resorts are making a comeback, proving more attractive with families and people reluctant to go abroad because of these terror groups and safety concerns. With more people just taking a Friday and Monday off going on more long weekends in the UK, Caravan Clubs , Resort Parks(modern Pontins) etc.

but Morecambe it's the same old problem with us, there's to many empty shops what are an eyesore and nothing LCC can do about that because that's down to the private owners. and puts people off returning.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:17 pm
by mrpotatohead
The rundown towns and empty shops problem is not confined to the seaside, I would rather live in Morecambe than Oldham or Blackburn.

Come to think about it, I woukd rather live in JAYWICK, than Blackburn!

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:27 pm
by George Dawes
mrpotatohead wrote:The rundown towns and empty shops problem is not confined to the seaside, I would rather live in Morecambe than Oldham or Blackburn.

Come to think about it, I woukd rather live in JAYWICK, than Blackburn!
beg to differ, thing is Seaside resorts don't normally have town centres like most towns and have loads of shops instead down the side streets down

a few years ago and it was linked on here, showing Morecambe had the highest rate of empty shops in the UK at over 30%

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:30 pm
by seasonsinthesun
Didn't Blackburn finish top of a recent survey on best town centre for shopping?
Not absolutely sure if this is right, but I remember Blackburn being shown in a very positive light.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:36 pm
by paschahound
Both landlocked and seaside towns have massively declined. Still, there are some lovely villages around with decent pubs, a local shop, a friendly community and not a kebab vendor, charity business, temping agency or prominently positioned derelict building in site. So it's not all bad.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:53 pm
by mrpotatohead
Wigan top top the table for the percentage empty rate in the NW at the moment, closely followed by Bolton , given that these were the last two northern towns frequented by ''old greenteeth'' Coyle, Blackburn will surely be on top of this table next year :lol:

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:11 pm
by Christies Child
Although I moved away from Morecambe with my folks in 1968 to live in Forton then Preston when I married, followed by Grange Over Sands and now Storth, I've always regarded the town as home and despite the distance to travel have remained 100% loyal to the club despite working both in London and overseas for short periods.

There is something magical for me when I drive on the M6 just past the Universirty travelling North and see the hills of the Lakes but more importantly the outline of the bay.

Despite its obvious decline over the years the town still feels like home and I'd love for it to see some positive investment to aid it to return if only partially to its former glories. Maybe IF and WHEN the new shopping complex finally gets under way we could see some much needed investment
to encourage more down the line.

I often wonder if the town and area missed out big time when the decision not to proceed with the Bay barrage was in hindsight fool hardy. Our town and area could have prospered had such a scheme been approved and could have attracted major investors into the town to capitalize on the wealth that would have been already in place.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:48 pm
by mrpotatohead
An engineer pal of mine, sadly now departed, took part in a feasability study regarding the barrage idea and a major issue was actually the fact that the strength of the incoming and outgoing tide would be so strong that building the neccessary turbines to harness it , and creating the bridge/ road, would be a collossal expense that no private investors would undertake and no government would ever finance.

The EU on the other hand.........

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:04 pm
by George Dawes
mrpotatohead wrote:An engineer pal of mine, sadly now departed, took part in a feasability study regarding the barrage idea and a major issue was actually the fact that the strength of the incoming and outgoing tide would be so strong that building the neccessary turbines to harness it , and creating the bridge/ road, would be a collossal expense that no private investors would undertake and no government would ever finance.

The EU on the other hand.........

ahhh, but got a bypass road now .

also the N/W is reportedly the richest area for Shale Gas in the EU, and for me I'd nationalise it like Norway do with their oil from the North Sea nstead of selling it to the highest bidder like the UK, and rip off their own with fuel prices.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:23 pm
by shrimperteer
I like how they added a filter to the Margate picture to make it look old.

Re: Decline of Seaside Towns

PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:55 am
by marky No.1
All we actually need is the weather. The way the £ is against the €, sunshine
is all that is required.............will it happen ... OK probably not :(