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...and they were in a far worse state than we are finacially.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trevor_Birch

He soon sussed out Cala who quickly vanished from the scene, unable to bring any money to the table despite promises made.....sounds familiar

He was able to secure investment (despite their financial position) and new ownership by a Fans Trust.

How do you know they were in a far worse state than we are in?

Also, don't forget they have a much bigger fan base.

Sounds as if PMG should have appointed someone like that a few years ago to evaluate the position, come up with some options, and to oversee the sale if that was the best outcome - i.e. someone with experience, and who knows all the options available re financing etc.

black morse wrote:How do you know they were in a far worse state than we are in?

Also, don't forget they have a much bigger fan base.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... mierleague

Reported to be £70 million in debt at the time of their administration. Read the above article.

And then for a SECOND time....which is when Trevor Birch got the Fans Trust to take control.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... asons.html

IT'S NEVER TOO LATE TO TAKE ACTION....

black morse wrote:How do you know they were in a far worse state than we are in?

Also, don't forget they have a much bigger fan base.

They were still owing high flying Premiership players their 5 year contracted amounts. Which in the lower Leagues wasn't sustainable.
Apart from actually being in L2, involving kicking a ball about on grass I can't see any similarities to the 2 clubs.
They get as many fans through the door in 1 game as we do in 12..

£30M in parachute payments probably helped a bit too

marky No.1 wrote:

black morse wrote:How do you know they were in a far worse state than we are in?

Also, don't forget they have a much bigger fan base.

They were still owing high flying Premiership players their 5 year contracted amounts. Which in the lower Leagues wasn't sustainable.
Apart from actually being in L2, involving kicking a ball about on grass I can't see any similarities to the 2 clubs.
They get as many fans through the door in 1 game as we do in 12

Despite difference in size, the problems are the same.. just smaller.

marky No.1 wrote:

black morse wrote:How do you know they were in a far worse state than we are in?

Also, don't forget they have a much bigger fan base.

They were still owing high flying Premiership players their 5 year contracted amounts. Which in the lower Leagues wasn't sustainable.
Apart from actually being in L2, involving kicking a ball about on grass I can't see any similarities to the 2 clubs.
They get as many fans through the door in 1 game as we do in 12..

£30M in parachute payments probably helped a bit too

yes, I seem to remember Kanu ex Arsenal and Ajax, was owed over a million pound for the remainder if his contract, and was going to take them to court, but had second thoughts and said you need it more than I do. pretty decent of him.

Christies Child wrote:Despite difference in size, the problems are the same.. just smaller.

That's the daft thing about all this. The club shouldn't be heading into oblivion - things shouldn't be that bad. Yes, the losses are huge, but lots of clubs are far worse. There is no need for the losses to have been so bad and, properly managed, the shortfalls could be massively reduced with some structural changes. Anyone got Trevor Birch's phone number?

Maybe when PMG said ''we will be debt free in 3 years'', he was talking about himself and his wife.

Trevor Birch is apparently on LinkedIn. Suspect someone who is a shrimp fan on Linked In would be able to make contact.

Joined Duff & Phelps as an MD in January 2017

http://www.duffandphelps.co.uk/?gclid=C ... 7QodxkcE7Q

See the first news article.

More info on Trevor Birch, plus a message option...

http://www.duffandphelps.com/about-us/o ... evor-birch

mrpotatohead wrote:Maybe when PMG said ''we will be debt free in 3 years'', he was talking about himself and his wife.

I'm a Pompey supporter watching the goings on at The Globe with interest; I've always had a soft spot for the club (last minute equalisers by goalkeepers excepted...) since spending time at Warton with the RAF in the 80s. I also had involvement with the setup of the Pompey Trust and worked on their 'Plan B' during both recent administrations.

I'd urge you to contact Trevor Birch and see if he can offer any advice given your current situation, plus also get in contact with Iain McInnes (the chairman) and Ashley Brown, a Trust member who sits on the board at Fratton Park and the current CEO at Supporters Direct. They were the leaders of the successful supporter ownership bid and would have a massive amount of advice to give you.

I saw earlier someone mention that we had a larger fanbase at Pompey, but it really doesn't matter. It was actually around a couple of hundred people who got involved either via the ownership bid or the protest marches we held prior to then. The 2,000+ £1,000 shares obviously helped later on, but it was the 'Fit & Proper?' march and all the other protests that brought media focus onto our club and created the momentum needed to ultimately gain control.

Don't think you're alone in this, you'll gather support from the football world, but it just needs to be coordinated properly.

Call up Sky TV, the local BBC, radio stations and journalists. David Conn, the Guardian football writer, was a great asset to us and would no doubt be the same for you given the ownership issues you have. He wrote some fantastic articles for us. If some of you are pretty good with words write up your own articles and send them out to the media - we had 4-4-2, When Saturday Comes, the Daily Telegraph, The Times and others run supporter-written features. Just make sure you get a libel lawyer to vet them first!

We thankfully survived Ali Al Faraj (the Saudi 'businessman' who didn't actually exist), Chainrai, Sulaiman al-Fahim, Cala and a whole host of others during the saga at Pompey. What we've got now isn't perfect, but we exist and the future looks good. Fingers crossed the same applies to you.

last minute equalisers by goalkeepers excepted....

12 months today since that happened sir.

Welcome to our board, and many thanks for your input.

I saw earlier someone mention that we had a larger fanbase at Pompey, but it really doesn't matter. It was actually around a couple of hundred people who got involved either via the ownership bid or the protest marches we held prior to then. The 2,000+ £1,000 shares obviously helped, but it was the 'Fit & Proper?' march and all the other protests that brought media focus onto our club.

Don't think you're alone in this, you'll gather support from the football world, but it just needs to be coordinated properly.

Call up Sky TV, the local BBC, radio stations and journalists. David Conn, the Guardian football writer, was a great asset to us and would no doubt be the same for you given the ownership issues you have. He wrote some fantastic articles for us. If some of you are pretty good with words write up your own articles and send them out to the media - we had 4-4-2, When Saturday Comes, the Daily Telegraph, The Times and others run supporter-written features. Just make sure you get a libel lawyer to vet them first!

This is what we need to do try and raise awareness (I bet sky sports news haven't even mentioned us yet, still prob going on about transfer deadline day). Something along the lines of trying to raise awareness of the fit and proper test and how we want to help support the staff. We need something to grab the attention like paying Jimbo's fine did.

I think once national press start getting involved and start digging people involved will start talking more and details will come out as they get a bit more nervous about what the national press might dig up if they go looking themselves.

I'd email Trevor Birch but I'm too emotional about the whole thing and I feel that my emotions would get the better of me. Can I suggest that someone with a more level head than myself email the guy and get his advice?

For me Shrimper would be the perfect guy to do this but not sure if he has the time....

Christies Child wrote:I'd email Trevor Birch but I'm too emotional about the whole thing and I feel that my emotions would get the better of me. Can I suggest that someone with a more level head than myself email the guy and get his advice?

Write the email, leave it for a few hours and go back and sanitise it before sending it. And don't worry too much about how emotional it gets - you should have seen some of ours!

Stick to facts and make sure nothing libellous or subjective gets dropped in there.

I'm good friends with a reporter on BBC Radio 5 Live based in Manchester.

I'll drop her a line.

Having said that, I know she'll have already read my (numerous) Tweets about our goings on.

Loos like Jim is been interviewed by North West Tonight so should get some coverage this evening.