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My future brother in law and I have been trying to recall when our two club's first played each other and what league it was in. Also when was the last time we met and again what league was it in.

No doubt somebody will be able to answer these questions as it's doing both our heads in trying to remember

Last time we played them was in the Conference a year or 2 before we won promotion.

I remember us beating them 2-1 with an injury time goal after former player Mark Quayle had equalised for the Seadogs. Their manager that day was Russell Slade.

What season was it that Justin Jackson headed in? There was racing at Olivers Mount. John McGuinness was being presented with the winners laurels and apparently, they could hear us chanting 'Morecambe' from down the hill!

I would imagine it was the inaugural season/s of the Northern Premier League, back in 68/69. We joined from the Lancs Combination and think Scarborough were up from the Midland League?
That season we finished third, not sure about Scarborough, but when the Alliance Premier
Formed in 79 they went up and we didn't, so didn't play them again apart from Cup games, Trophy etc.
The Seadogs record in the NPL was far superior to ours following that first season, we slowly found it more difficult to compete, however Scarborough, particularly in the mid 70's were a non league powerhouse, hence their invite to the Conference when it formed.
I do remember losing 2-0 in the Trophy at Seamer Rd in about 85, I think Neil Warnock was their manager at the time and they were riding high in the Conference, while we were coming back as contenders in the NPL under Joe Woj!!

These could be wild guesstimates, all from memory, hope it helps, and it's something like correct!!
Keith we won 1-0 on May bank holiday Monday and finished third in the Conference I think, possibly 98-98. Think Halifax won it that year? Maybe later, 99/00?

Remember the one in 85 for the wrong reasons though.

George Dawes wrote:Remember the one in 85 for the wrong reasons though.

The away cup match when we lost1-0? Wasn't it a little later than 85?
The events at the game were nothing to do with regular Morecambe fans. Good that those kinds of days are far in the past from the match day experience of today.

Freez wrote:I would imagine it was the inaugural season/s of the Northern Premier League, back in 68/69. We joined from the Lancs Combination and think Scarborough were up from the Midland League?
That season we finished third, not sure about Scarborough

Scarborough finished 17th (fourth from bottom). They avoided relegation from the NPL on goal difference.

Right enough about the Seamer Rd unsavoury incidents George, as for it being 85' it May we'll be later, but defo under Joe Woj. We lost in a close game but we didn't really threaten.

Thanks everybody. Goes someway to resolving the problem of when we both attended the games at Scarboro (supporting either MFC or SFC) unaware that all these years later we'd become related through marriage.

One thing for sure, he's remained loyal to Scarboro no matter what league or where they have been based.

Freez wrote:Right enough about the Seamer Rd unsavoury incidents George, as for it being 85' it May we'll be later, but defo under Joe Woj. We lost in a close game but we didn't really threaten.

The only game I've ever been to where I didn't want Morecambe to score. Once the news rippled around that the guy had been killed, the atmosphere was awful and in fact, a few of us contemplated leaving before the end of the game.

The thugs arrived, climbed over a wall, started fighting the first people that they met, head-butted an elderly man in the chest, causing his heart to stop, then legged it, all within a few minutes. One of Morecambe FC's darkest days, regardless of the fact that the thugs only ever attended games where they thought there may be trouble.

Keith wrote:

Freez wrote:Right enough about the Seamer Rd unsavoury incidents George, as for it being 85' it May we'll be later, but defo under Joe Woj. We lost in a close game but we didn't really threaten.

The only game I've ever been to where I didn't want Morecambe to score. Once the news rippled around that the guy had been killed, the atmosphere was awful and in fact, a few of us contemplated leaving before the end of the game.

The thugs arrived, climbed over a wall, started fighting the first people that they met, head-butted an elderly man in the chest, causing his heart to stop, then legged it, all within a few minutes. One of Morecambe FC's darkest days, regardless of the fact that the thugs only ever attended games where they thought there may be trouble.

might have been 86, I was at high school and had a Saturday afternoon job at a Butchers in 85/86.

Did you witness it Keith? I was told the the next day off School mates who went that the Elderly man was rumored to be a board member who went over to split up fighting and tried to make a citizens arrests and went down holding his chest?

George Dawes wrote:Did you witness it Keith? I was told the the next day off School mates who went that the Elderly man was rumored to be a board member who went over to split up fighting and tried to make a citizens arrests and went down holding his chest?

That's pretty much exactly it. We were at the other end of the ground, behind the goal. The thugs came over the wall, straight in to the Scarborough fans. Scarborough were a League team then, so a big game for us. The known thugs had been rumoured to be coming, but we hadn't seen then until that point. I didn't witness the actual assault but we could tell there was fighting, then after they'd legged it, there was an ambulance crew attending. All this time, the now completely irrelevant game was continuing. About half time it started to filter round that the board member had died.

George Dawes wrote:

Keith wrote:

Freez wrote:Right enough about the Seamer Rd unsavoury incidents George, as for it being 85' it May we'll be later, but defo under Joe Woj. We lost in a close game but we didn't really threaten.

The only game I've ever been to where I didn't want Morecambe to score. Once the news rippled around that the guy had been killed, the atmosphere was awful and in fact, a few of us contemplated leaving before the end of the game.

The thugs arrived, climbed over a wall, started fighting the first people that they met, head-butted an elderly man in the chest, causing his heart to stop, then legged it, all within a few minutes. One of Morecambe FC's darkest days, regardless of the fact that the thugs only ever attended games where they thought there may be trouble.

might have been 86, I was at high school and had a Saturday afternoon job at a Butchers in 85/86.

Did you witness it Keith? I was told the the next day off School mates who went that the Elderly man was rumored to be a board member who went over to split up fighting and tried to make a citizens arrests and went down holding his chest?

I think the gentleman who passed away was the Scarborough Chairman.

On the same day in a totally unrelated incident in Morecambe a man was killed on the road outside The Regency Club in a hit and run/deliberate accident.

I think Scarborough were top of the Conference when we played them that day, though I can't remember if it was the trophy or GM Acceptance Corporation cup. I think the trophy, but not sure.
I thought it was the Scarborough chairman that lost his life.
From what I remember, there were initially police in the ground but they were sent away, bar 1, due to there being not many Shrimps in attendance. The bus with the miscreants arrived late and they tried to get in for free and when being asked to pay, they invaded the ground and immediately started attacking anyone. The board member (chairman?) went to help out the officer, which led to his death a short while later. Most of those involved had addresses in the Liverpool area, though they had been seen at small number of Morecambe games previously, such as York away a year earlier.
The next home game was solemn and everyone gave generously to a bucket taken round CP for the family.

It was the Trophy.
Colin Wanker (anagram) was the manager.
Not looked back on with any glory from any Shrimp there that day, shameful.

I was on the official supporters coach and can remember the bus being stopped at Kirby Stephen and the Police coming on board searching for the culprits.

whatyearwasitMark Quayle scored a hat trick in what was a 4 4 draw at Christie i think

parkyboy wrote:whatyearwasitMark Quayle scored a hat trick in what was a 4 4 draw at Christie i think

It was in the year 2000 around the time we played Cambridge United in the FA Cup.

Going back to the unsavoury incident at Scarborough's ground, it was definitely the 1986/87 season and was the year Scarborough eventually won the Vauxhall Conference to gain them promotion to the FL.

The awful incident actually made the main ITV National evening news that night.

Mark Quayle's goal spree came at Christie Park the week before the Ipswich Town home game.