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Re Under Cover Area
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Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:14 am
by George Dawes
Still an ongoing problem, I undeserstand money is tight, however Fans two or three seasons ago proposed to fund some sort of roofing for it to be knocked back for CCTV reasons.
I also believe the recently(start of this season) Shrimps Trust brought it up again and things looked promising in addressing paying customers match day experience.
Going by every season since the move we seem to be losing on average of 100+ fans per season, surly it would make sense to make this a priority?
just some basic no frills cladding a bit like old Morecambe Market, it's realistically affordable if fans chip in?
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:50 pm
by Wild Bill
Wasn't there a promise last summer to build something in time for the new season, only for it never to materialise?
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:21 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
Wild Bill wrote:Wasn't there a promise last summer to build something in time for the new season, only for it never to materialise?
Yes , I suspect the directors have been busy finding cash for the wages so this is likely to remain on the back burner until or if a new investor/owner arrives.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:22 pm
by black morse
Wild Bill wrote:Wasn't there a promise last summer to build something in time for the new season, only for it never to materialise?
Perhaps it would be cheaper to loan out umbrellas
On second thoughts charge for them!
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:09 pm
by George Dawes
I'm not name dropping, it's breaking confidence.
But I can't understand why when fans are willing to fund this or raise funds the club are putting obstacles in the way.
1) CCTV
2) it's ok, where on to it, it's getting sorted.
Basically the Club is Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth, they don't have to pay a penny, let's make it happen!
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:32 pm
by Westgate Wanderer
I thought Mr T mentioned this in another thread last week. Starting that is taking longer than anticipated but plans are in the pipeline!
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:29 am
by Wild Bill
Westgate Wanderer wrote:I thought Mr T mentioned this in another thread last week. Starting that is taking longer than anticipated but plans are in the pipeline!
Been going on too long. At the very least lets have a whip round for a decent gazebo, while the board work on their plans. Its cost enough fans already.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:52 am
by NPL Daze
George Dawes wrote:I'm not name dropping, it's breaking confidence.
But I can't understand why when fans are willing to fund this or raise funds the club are putting obstacles in the way.
1) CCTV
2) it's ok, where on to it, it's getting sorted.
Basically the Club is Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth, they don't have to pay a penny, let's make it happen!
Didn't I have the misfortune to read something about this situation on Facebook over the weekend?
Rod Taylor gave the answers as to what the current state of play is.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:30 pm
by Heysham_red
NPL Daze wrote:George Dawes wrote:I'm not name dropping, it's breaking confidence.
But I can't understand why when fans are willing to fund this or raise funds the club are putting obstacles in the way.
1) CCTV
2) it's ok, where on to it, it's getting sorted.
Basically the Club is Looking a Gift Horse in the Mouth, they don't have to pay a penny, let's make it happen!
Didn't I have the misfortune to read something about this situation on Facebook over the weekend?
Rod Taylor gave the answers as to what the current state of play is
And what was the answer?
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:33 pm
by Heysham_red
Gone_Shrimping wrote:Wild Bill wrote:Wasn't there a promise last summer to build something in time for the new season, only for it never to materialise?
Yes , I suspect the directors have been busy finding cash for the wages so this is likely to remain on the back burner until or if a new investor/owner arrives.
Great idea, then we will lose even more fans due to false promises and uttlerly shambolic communication. When is this board going to learn.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:38 pm
by NPL Daze
Heysham_red wrote:Gone_Shrimping wrote:Wild Bill wrote:Wasn't there a promise last summer to build something in time for the new season, only for it never to materialise?
Yes , I suspect the directors have been busy finding cash for the wages so this is likely to remain on the back burner until or if a new investor/owner arrives.
Great idea, then we will lose even more fans due to false promises and uttlerly shambolic communication. When is this board going to learn.
So you'd rather wages went unpaid to our players - we are a football club after all - so we could break the bank/find some none existent money to erect a cover which isn't top of the priorities list right now in the grand scheme of things??
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:42 pm
by Christies Child
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:43 pm
by NPL Daze
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:35 pm
by Heysham_red
Why don’t you ask the fans who don’t come any more what’s more important? My attendance over the last 5 years has decline simply because the value for money is pants and there has been little attempt to reconnect with the fans. We are no longer a family club. We are simply a badly ran business. Sad times. II would take the north stand and conference football over what we have everyday.
You carry on pretending everything is ok though.
As for getting the trust to pay for everything. I wouldn’t pay for a bus pass then pay extra to get the bus. Why do we seem to think it’s ok to do that for a football club.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:27 am
by George Dawes
Maybe the club should reveal the plans/drawings to fans, then the Trust could start raising funds.
Sure I heard off a little dicky bird a figure of £30.000 ish, sounds about right for some steel girders and cladding, oh and CCTV camera to keep people happy.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:12 am
by Phil Anderer
Heysham_red wrote:Why don’t you ask the fans who don’t come any more what’s more important? My attendance over the last 5 years has decline simply because the value for money is pants and there has been little attempt to reconnect with the fans. We are no longer a family club. We are simply a badly ran business. Sad times. II would take the north stand and conference football over what we have everyday.
You carry on pretending everything is ok though. As for getting the trust to pay for everything. I wouldn’t pay for a bus pass then pay extra to get the bus. Why do we seem to think it’s ok to do that for a football club.
Any chance you could point to the post where CC (or anyone, for that matter) says everything's OK? I don't think anyone thinks that, but I find it bizarre that anyone could think providing cover behind the home end (which I'm not dismissing, BTW, I think it should have been there from the off) is more important than ensuring people get paid at the end of the month.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:33 am
by Heysham_red
Phil Anderer wrote:Heysham_red wrote:Why don’t you ask the fans who don’t come any more what’s more important? My attendance over the last 5 years has decline simply because the value for money is pants and there has been little attempt to reconnect with the fans. We are no longer a family club. We are simply a badly ran business. Sad times. II would take the north stand and conference football over what we have everyday.
You carry on pretending everything is ok though. As for getting the trust to pay for everything. I wouldn’t pay for a bus pass then pay extra to get the bus. Why do we seem to think it’s ok to do that for a football club.
Any chance you could point to the post where CC (or anyone, for that matter) says everything's OK? I don't think anyone thinks that, but I find it bizarre that anyone could think providing cover behind the home end (which I'm not dismissing, BTW, I think it should have been there from the off) is more important than ensuring people get paid at the end of the month.
He didn’t. I will retract it. Let’s back on topic. What’s happening with the promised works?
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:35 am
by Christies Child
It's not often that I take exception to a post about me, but Heysham red is so off the mark when he claims that I pretend that everything is OK when it clearly is not BUT I try to remain positive and trust that things will work out fine for our club sooner rather than later.
There are too many gloom merchants posting on SVs including a few who for whatever reason like to stick the boot in which at times reads like they have personal vendettas towards certain Board members.
I'm critical of Jim and his style pf play but respect him for his loyalty and commitment to our great club and would never sink to the depths of wishing him anything other than the best at all times. Maybe those who have little respect for those charged with continuing to finance our club should show a bit of gratitude ...after all without the continued financing of our club by a select few, there would be no MFC operating in the EFL.
Rant over....
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 10:41 am
by NPL Daze
Christies Child wrote: Maybe those who have little respect for those charged with continuing to finance our club should show a bit of gratitude ...after all without the continued financing of our club by a select few, there would be no MFC operating in the EFL.
Well said indeed sir.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:45 pm
by Heysham_red
Christies Child wrote:It's not often that I take exception to a post about me, but Heysham red is so off the mark when he claims that I pretend that everything is OK when it clearly is not BUT I try to remain positive and trust that things will work out fine for our club sooner rather than later.
There are too many gloom merchants posting on SVs including a few who for whatever reason like to stick the boot in which at times reads like they have personal vendettas towards certain Board members.
I'm critical of Jim and his style pf play but respect him for his loyalty and commitment to our great club and would never sink to the depths of wishing him anything other than the best at all times. Maybe those who have little respect for those charged with continuing to finance our club should show a bit of gratitude ...after all without the continued financing of our club by a select few, there would be no MFC operating in the EFL.
Rant over....
Now you’re off your high horse. You should read your own post and realise how much of a hypocrite you are. “I ddon’t like people saying I’m this and that” and then suggesting things I never actually said!
Why is it ok for you to have a go at Jim and not me to have a go at the board? Am i not allowed an opinion? Do me a favour and grow up. This isn’t about you! Every topic you seem to what to make about you. It’s boring.
This is about a cover over a stand we were promised. Can you provide an update on that?
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 2:51 pm
by NPL Daze
1) There is no money
2) The future of the club is uncertain
3) The club is for sale
4) Other priorities are more pressing.
5) We are operating on by far the smallest budget in the EFL.
Anything else ??
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:00 pm
by Heysham_red
NPL Daze wrote:1) There is no money
2) The future of the club is uncertain
3) The club is for sale
4) Other priorities are more pressing.
5) We are operating on by far the smallest budget in the EFL.
Anything else ??
Thanks for this. Which one of theses was not the case when promised work was made?
Re: Re Under Cover Area
Posted:
Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:17 pm
by Shrimpy
I have to defend Heysham_red here.
Yes, we all understand and know the reasons why things won't / can't be done.
However, it was stated 12 months ago that work would start which everyone was pleased about. Then we've heard nothing since.
If you're going to announce that work will be starting on a cover and then it doesn't without an explanation you can't blame people for asking what's going on and citing this as an example of the poor communication from the club.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:10 pm
by George Dawes
NPL Daze wrote:1) There is no money
2) The future of the club is uncertain
3) The club is for sale
4) Other priorities are more pressing.
5) We are operating on by far the smallest budget in the EFL.
Anything else ??
If ground is protected by the trust, it's not dead money being spent surly?
Oh and number 5) Accrington Stanley have been said to still have the smallest budget in the EFL, today on the radio.
Re: Re Under Cover Area
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:06 pm
by Freez
Not true George, Andy Holt the owner admitted today the original budget put forward in June was 600k, had risen to 900k and is well over a million as it stands.
So nearly twice ours!!