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Now the season is over I have totted up our average gate , 1492 fans a match.....this is around 210 less than last season, which is better than I expected.

Surprisingly though, I checked 2015/16 and found that the figure was only 1572 , a mere 80 fans more, these figures are unremarkable, but very similar to our figures in our "successful" non league years prior to joining the football league,.

Given that we will receive parachute payments for 3 years if we go down, we won't be much worse off, we have no decent sponsorship anyway , so there will be no loss there, so looking on the bright side of life, we should embrace relegation as a fresh start!!!!

1492... The year Columbus set sail for a new world. If we're relegated, we'll have to embrace the adventure too!

mrpotatohead wrote:Given that we will receive parachute payments for 3 years if we go down, we won't be much worse off

You're assuming the parachute payments will be spent on the squad and not repaying debt.

It would be interesting to know how much Macclesfield's budget was this season when they won the Conference. I would think it is way less than teams like Eastleigh , Tranmere , Wrexham etc
Just shows what you can do with a good manager.

I am assuming nothing Ken h....because when you assume you make an ASS out of U and ME

mrpotatohead wrote:Now the season is over I have totted up our average gate , 1492 fans a match.....this is around 210 less than last season, which is better than I expected.

And why were you expecting lower crowds mrpotatohead? style of play? tactics?

Just asking like..........

mrpotatohead wrote:Now the season is over I have totted up our average gate , 1492 fans a match.....this is around 210 less than last season, which is better than I expected.

Surprisingly though, I checked 2015/16 and found that the figure was only 1572 , a mere 80 fans more, these figures are unremarkable, but very similar to our figures in our "successful" non league years prior to joining the football league,.

Given that we will receive parachute payments for 3 years if we go down, we won't be much worse off, we have no decent sponsorship anyway , so there will be no loss there, so looking on the bright side of life, we should embrace relegation as a fresh start!!!!

What happens when the parachute payments stop?

The worry is that you get the parachute payment as a lump sum, where as in the league it gets drip fed month by month.

If there was ever a chance to take the money and run.......

If you fall from a plane and open your parachute it slows you down as you drop, if you aint got a parachute you keep falling very quickly!!

We may actually need Columbus' Santa Maria for travelling round the country to Havant & Waterlooville, Ebbsfleet, Bromley, Dagenham, Maidenhead, Maidstone, Eastleigh and maybe even Dover or Truro

Probably an extra 2-3000 round trip miles - Truro is nearly 800 miles making Plymouth look a doddle.

The Ricoh Arena might not seem like Wembley, but it's certainly as bigger game

mrpotatohead wrote:Now the season is over I have totted up our average gate , 1492 fans a match.....this is around 210 less than last season, which is better than I expected.

Surprisingly though, I checked 2015/16 and found that the figure was only 1572 , a mere 80 fans more, these figures are unremarkable, but very similar to our figures in our "successful" non league years prior to joining the football league,.

Given that we will receive parachute payments for 3 years if we go down, we won't be much worse off, we have no decent sponsorship anyway , so there will be no loss there, so looking on the bright side of life, we should embrace relegation as a fresh start!!!!

Well done MrP on producing some very interesting figures. Must say the average for this season is a lot better than I expected.

Let's be positive and say that we WILL get the single point we need at Coventry, with those teams coming down (Bury for certain) I suspect their combined away following will more than make up for the loss of example Accy (who don't bring that many ) and other promoted clubs. As a result our average next season could be a wee bit higher assuming that the close season rebuild brings a more positive approach on the field, resulting in the return of some of the missing 800.

Mark's assessment of the increase in travelling costs (assuming the worse) is for me a reason why the authorities should look at the cost for each club and come up with a scheme that averages out the cost for each club and the league financially compensate those with the greater cost so that no club pays any more or less than another club.

Wishful thinking I know.....

What happens to the figure if you take out the Carlisle game

P/T Indie wrote:What happens to the figure if you take out the Carlisle game

Presuming MPH's figures are 23 x 1492 = 34316....

34316 - 3319 = 30997

30997 /22 = 1408...

Take Accy & Carlisle out and it is 1378

Taking out the CARLISLE figure is obviously going to reduce the average , just like the Portsmouth or blackpool or Bradford figures would when they were in the division.

Gone_Shrimping wrote:It would be interesting to know how much Macclesfield's budget was this season when they won the Conference. I would think it is way less than teams like Eastleigh , Tranmere , Wrexham etc
Just shows what you can do with a good manager.

I posted a few weeks ago that Macclesfield had been featured on BBC Northwest, and that they have won the National league with the lowest budget.

proving it can be done with good management, Burnley and Accrington as well !

All 3 club's you mention are being run on a sound financial footing, off the pitch fiscal harmony is paramount to ensure success .

They all have a board in harmony, not a few hardy souls trying to keep us afloat while others in the room try and hawk us to any old bidder to get money out!!

Shrimpy wrote:

mrpotatohead wrote:Now the season is over I have totted up our average gate , 1492 fans a match.....this is around 210 less than last season, which is better than I expected.

Surprisingly though, I checked 2015/16 and found that the figure was only 1572 , a mere 80 fans more, these figures are unremarkable, but very similar to our figures in our "successful" non league years prior to joining the football league,.

Given that we will receive parachute payments for 3 years if we go down, we won't be much worse off, we have no decent sponsorship anyway , so there will be no loss there, so looking on the bright side of life, we should embrace relegation as a fresh start!!!!

What happens when the parachute payments stop?

And parachute payments are only for two years. Although better than they used to be it certainly didn't help Hartlepool or Leyton Orient this season.

- 100% of the equivalent Basic Award payment made to League 2 clubs in the first year following relegation.

- 50% of the equivalent Basic Award payment made to League 2 clubs in the second year following relegation (unless a club achieves promotion back to The Football League at the first attempt).

An article here about Macclesfield Town.

Won the Conference with a budget of £350,000 and their best paid player earns £500 per week :-

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/back ... cf76dcb1e8

Posh wrote:

Shrimpy wrote:

mrpotatohead wrote:Now the season is over I have totted up our average gate , 1492 fans a match.....this is around 210 less than last season, which is better than I expected.

Surprisingly though, I checked 2015/16 and found that the figure was only 1572 , a mere 80 fans more, these figures are unremarkable, but very similar to our figures in our "successful" non league years prior to joining the football league,.

Given that we will receive parachute payments for 3 years if we go down, we won't be much worse off, we have no decent sponsorship anyway , so there will be no loss there, so looking on the bright side of life, we should embrace relegation as a fresh start!!!!

What happens when the parachute payments stop?

And parachute payments are only for two years. Although better than they used to be it certainly didn't help Hartlepool or Leyton Orient this season.

- 100% of the equivalent Basic Award payment made to League 2 clubs in the first year following relegation.

- 50% of the equivalent Basic Award payment made to League 2 clubs in the second year following relegation (unless a club achieves promotion back to The Football League at the first attempt).

And the basic award is exactly what it says on the can.

There is no solidarity payment.

First year we would receive £450,000

2nd year we would receive £225,000

Relegation would be a disaster.

Gone_Shrimping wrote:An article here about Macclesfield Town.

Won the Conference with a budget of £350,000 and their best paid player earns £500 per week :-

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/back ... cf76dcb1e8

You can't be putting things like this up, it contradicts everything we are told about low budgets meaning poor performance! We don't need your propaganda on here Sir

Askey has no scouts and has had no assistant manager since Steve Watson left to manage Gateshead in October. Byron Jenkins, a former centre of excellence coach, assists Askey on the training field. Bill Gorton — “My mate who I have a drink with,” Askey says — coaches the goalkeepers and Shay Given helps out on occasion too. Rae Ingram, a former Manchester City and Macclesfield defender who is now a fireman, is the masseur. Askey’s friend Tony Brown does the kit and all do so for no more than petrol money.

[quote="marky No.1"]. Askey’s friend Tony Brown does the kit and all do so for no more than petrol money.

Isn't that what Les does

Not wanting to put a downer on their achievements but I would bet all their players come from the Manchester area though and have little travel expenses.

P/T Indie wrote:Not wanting to put a downer on their achievements but I would bet all their players come from the Manchester area though and have little travel expenses.

Don't go suggesting anything like that, BerlinWailer won't like it and will suggest you are arse licking. You have to just agree with him on all counts, didn't you know?

Keith wrote:

P/T Indie wrote:Not wanting to put a downer on their achievements but I would bet all their players come from the Manchester area though and have little travel expenses.

Don't go suggesting anything like that, BerlinWailer won't like it and will suggest you are arse licking. You have to just agree with him on all counts, didn't you know?

Don't get narky because there is evidence to blow your small budget myth out of the water Keith.

Hard evidence, or smoke n mirrors. Coley was still peddling the low budget Accy myth amonth ago.
Askey could well be doing the same, the Vanarama unlike the EFL dont insist on financial transparency.
So again, it's a nice story but nowt concrete.
Just because they say it doesnt make it true!!