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With quite a few calling for jims head, who would you like to see take over?
Sometimes it's not always greener??

Gary Bowyer would be a good choice

Don’t want to see Jim go, but if he does Ronnie Moore knows the division, and saved Hartlepool from the drop a few seasons ago, but it’s not going to happen,, come on you shrimps, a win today and we’re in mid table

Like to think by October Jim will have turned things round.


But these debates who would Manage Morecambe, actually there'd be quite some interest, shit loads on here. https://www.thepfa.com


for example when Coleman was sacked at Rochdale he was out of work for a good while(before he returned to Stanley) anybody telling me when Coley was out of work he'd of turned his nose up at the Morecambe job?

There are only 72 FL managers jobs. If the job ever came up, there would be plenty of applicants. The "who would we get better than Jim" argument doesn't hold any water.

Sammy Mcllroy.

And the rest in no particular order....

Brian Talbot.
Jim Harvey (yes)
Graham Westley.
Stewart Drummond.
Dave Penney.
Gary Flitcroft.
John Gregory.
Ian Woan.
Keith Curle.

Mark Lillis

Potted Shrimp wrote:Sammy Mcllroy.
Brian Talbot.
Jim Harvey (yes)
Graham Westley.
Stewart Drummond.
Dave Penney.
Gary Flitcroft.
John Gregory.
Ian Woan.

I’m sorry but isn’t just giving Drummy the job a cop out? Because they can’t be bothered looking for an experienced alternative?
If he proved to everyone he is a quality manager with a bright future ahead of him, fair enough, but now nothing seems to stand out at me. I presume he’d become the caretaker manager immediately after Jim departs, then we could judge him for 2/3 games and see where he stands as a manager, but just appointing him almost automatically doesn’t seem the right thing to do.

Edit: However, you make a great point that there are various alternatives we could try out, and most importantly, most of which would probably want to join (for some return).

RapidShrimp wrote:

Potted Shrimp wrote:Sammy Mcllroy.
Brian Talbot.
Jim Harvey (yes)
Graham Westley.
Stewart Drummond.
Dave Penney.
Gary Flitcroft.
John Gregory.
Ian Woan.

I’m sorry but isn’t just giving Drummy the job a cop out? Because they can’t be bothered looking for an experienced alternative?
If he proved to everyone he is a quality manager with a bright future ahead of him, fair enough, but now nothing seems to stand out at me. I presume he’d become the caretaker manager immediately after Jim departs, then we could judge him for 2/3 games and see where he stands as a manager, but just appointing him almost automatically doesn’t seem the right thing

Would not be my preference by any means I guess he is an option of many.

Potted Shrimp wrote:

RapidShrimp wrote:

Potted Shrimp wrote:Sammy Mcllroy.
Brian Talbot.
Jim Harvey (yes)
Graham Westley.
Stewart Drummond.
Dave Penney.
Gary Flitcroft.
John Gregory.
Ian Woan.

I’m sorry but isn’t just giving Drummy the job a cop out? Because they can’t be bothered looking for an experienced alternative?
If he proved to everyone he is a quality manager with a bright future ahead of him, fair enough, but now nothing seems to stand out at me. I presume he’d become the caretaker manager immediately after Jim departs, then we could judge him for 2/3 games and see where he stands as a manager, but just appointing him almost automatically doesn’t seem the right thing

Would not be my preference by any means I guess he is an option of many.

Agree fully (see my last edited paragraph for that)

Lillis would be perfect along side a younger Manager, Mark was a brilliant coach, I loved watching his pre games warm ups and how he was with the players. He is out in India so I doubt we could tempt him back.

Sammy is a good shout but did he go on good terms? Who would be in charge of the hunt for a new manager? Would it be left to PMG and Rod?

Nothing against JB he has been a great servant to the club but surely he must be looking over his shoulders now. Hopefully he can motivate the lads to a win on Tues night. I am optimistic. If not, he could become the first FL manager to be sacked. As mentioned by an earlier poster its not just this seasons results but the end of last seasons as well, it was nothing but sheer luck that the club stayed up - and it doesn't look as though our goal difference could be that vital difference even at this stage.

Waddock at Aldershot but would he come up North?

BerlinWaller wrote:Waddock at Aldershot but would he come up North?

Its not a bad call but he has only played and managed down south and I don't think we have the credentials tempt him to move up north.

I am a big fan of David Flitcroft, shame he is unavailable but again I don't think he would come here.

BerlinWaller wrote:There are only 72 FL managers jobs. If the job ever came up, there would be plenty of applicants. The "who would we get better than Jim" argument doesn't hold any water.

Still can’t believe Bentley was the “best” candidate for the job after Samny left

John Mcmahon

al1 wrote:John Mcmahon

or steve "one minute" Mcmahon what's he up to?

I'm not calling for Jim to go, just yet, but if it happened the one name amongst all those mentioned I wouldn't want is Sammy Mac. Jim's picked up his most annoying trait, at least in part, in that Sammy always blamed everyone else and never accepted responsibility. Besides, according to some on here he was given bucketloads to spend on the team; no way could I see him coming back to operate on Jim's budget.

Phil Anderer wrote:I'm not calling for Jim to go, just yet, but if it happened the one name amongst all those mentioned I wouldn't want is Sammy Mac. Jim's picked up his most annoying trait, at least in part, in that Sammy always blamed everyone else and never accepted responsibility. Besides, according to some on here he was given bucketloads to spend on the team; no way could I see him coming back to operate on Jim's budget.

Sammy has a good number, appears on talksport, MUFC, why would he come back to a club he left under a cloud? JB has picked up the its everybody elses fault from him and the negative ned tactics from JH. New blood from outside the club is needed to pull us up and out of the non-league mentallity which shrouds the entire club

Does the BoD want the hassle of a new manager? A guy who might have been around a few clubs, worked with better facilities and be a bit more demanding on resources. Would they want to be dipping their hands in their pockets to satisfy the needs of a new Manager or are they happier plodding along with Jim who seems fairly content with his lot? I can't imagine Jim causes them too many headaches with his demands. I know he squabbles over the budget every pre season but when he asked for the GPS equipment for example, the club went cap in hand to the trust. I just think Jim suits the clubs complacent attitude and a new manager would be too much hassle for them.

I would hope that the Boards priority was EFL survival and that any managerial change (which i can't see happening until at the very earliest November..if at all) would see promotion for Kevin to see what he can do with either Baz or Drummy as Assistant. Listening to Baz recently on the radio he hinted that his preferred way was to play it out from the back through midfield.

redrobo wrote:I would hope that the Boards priority was EFL survival and that any managerial change (which i can't see happening until at the very earliest November..if at all) would see promotion for Kevin to see what he can do with either Baz or Drummy as Assistant. Listening to Baz recently on the radio he hinted that his preferred way was to play it out from the back through midfield.

Seriously another former player/players with no experience?

Thats not even a sideways move, it's Backwards

redrobo wrote:I would hope that the Boards priority was EFL survival and that any managerial change (which i can't see happening until at the very earliest November..if at all) would see promotion for Kevin to see what he can do with either Baz or Drummy as Assistant. Listening to Baz recently on the radio he hinted that his preferred way was to play it out from the back through midfield.

We need to get away from the Old boys act. A new Manager with fresh ideas and an enthusiastic approach to the club. The players have it far too easy under Jim IMO and we need to get rid of that attitude.

The one thing we do need is change.Football should be entertaining, but for far too long now watching Morecambe has been by and large dire.For me the old match day buzz has long since gone.More a resigned 'will we even score a goal today' type of feeling now exists. If Jim could change it then great. But he's had more than enough time and unfortunately there is no sign of improvement, exactly the opposite in fact.If Jim can't change it then the time must have finally come to give someone else a try. Yes we have a limited budget and it might not work, but something has to change to liven things up, we simply can't go on as we are. Gary Bowyer did an excellent job in difficult circumstances at Blackpool and would be a good fit, but I couldn't see him jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

What frustrates me is Jim has actually negated one of his tougher challenges - the budget. We have a decent bunch of players:

Promotion winning midfielders (Wildig, Tutte, Mandeville)
A striker who scored almost 30 last season (Oswell)
One of the more highly rated full backs in League Two (Mills)
One of the best keepers in League Two (Roche)
A striker who is well travelled and proven in League's One and Two (Leitch Smith)
A defender who, until a few weeks ago, was going to be in the first team squad for a Premier League side (Yarney)
Two of the brightest young talents I've ever seen at the club (Mendes-Gomes, Jagne)

Yes we don't have amazing depths of quality that Notts County or Mansfield Town etc have, but we easily have enough to stay up.

I had the pleasure of going to see Leeds under Marcelo Bielsa yesterday. They were magnificent, playing some wonderful attacking football in a fluid 4-2-3-1. Now obviously I'm not saying I expect a 'Bielsan' standard attacking football or anything, but the thing that really struck me was the fact that 10 out of 11 players in Leeds' starting line up were there last season, in a side that flopped and finished 11th.

Like I said before, I don't expect Jim to be the same standard of coach as Bielsa as not many people are. My point is, though, is that it is up to the manager to get the best out of his players. Jim is very clearly nowhere near maximising the potential of his players, be it through training/coaching, man management, tactics, style, formation etc. To my eyes he is failing at it completely and doing so in a manner that is producing awful, gruelling football that is losing fans. It is early doors this season still but the thing that really worries me is that this is a continuation from last season. If it doesn't pick up in the next game or two, he has to go. If not, we will be starting to put ourselves in a position that is too far gone to turn around.