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One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 4:05 pm
by Doonhamer
Exactly

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:01 pm
by Westgate Wanderer
Back to reality and Bentleys favourite line up!

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 6:11 pm
by Phil Anderer
Westgate Wanderer wrote:Back to reality and Bentleys favourite line up!


Bloody well hope not! We were the better side today until Oliver & Kev came on, when the tempo dropped in part due to fatigue, admittedly, but also because those 2 don't have the same skill levels as the players they replaced. Look at the stats on the BBC. Slightly more possession, nearly twice as many shots. Oldham got a get out of jail free card today. We stick to that lineup and formation and we'll stay up no problem.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:14 pm
by fulwoodshrimp
We played well again today but our failure once more to score a goal is an ongoing worry. Another worry is the decision when we needed goals to bring on Oliver. His goal return is abysmal.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:23 pm
by Westgate Wanderer
fulwoodshrimp wrote:We played well again today but our failure once more to score a goal is an ongoing worry. Another worry is the decision when we needed goals to bring on Oliver. His goal return is abysmal.
It's not even that good!

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:19 pm
by redrobo
Phil Anderer wrote:
Westgate Wanderer wrote:Back to reality and Bentleys favourite line up!


Bloody well hope not! We were the better side today until Oliver & Kev came on, when the tempo dropped in part due to fatigue, admittedly, but also because those 2 don't have the same skill levels as the players they replaced. Look at the stats on the BBC. Slightly more possession, nearly twice as many shots. Oldham got a get out of jail free card today. We stick to that lineup and formation and we'll stay up no problem.


Totally agree with my fellow Cumbrian. :D and xFor me both Aaron and Fleming are showing the kind of form that we all know they are capable of and a player who continues to impress is Mandervill who came with a somewhat tarnished reputation but for me has bags of skill and could be one of the finds of our season.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:19 pm
by redrobo
Phil Anderer wrote:
Westgate Wanderer wrote:Back to reality and Bentleys favourite line up!


Bloody well hope not! We were the better side today until Oliver & Kev came on, when the tempo dropped in part due to fatigue, admittedly, but also because those 2 don't have the same skill levels as the players they replaced. Look at the stats on the BBC. Slightly more possession, nearly twice as many shots. Oldham got a get out of jail free card today. We stick to that lineup and formation and we'll stay up no problem.


Totally agree with my fellow Cumbrian. :D and xFor me both Aaron and Fleming are showing the kind of form that we all know they are capable of and a player who continues to impress is Mandervill who came with a somewhat tarnished reputation but for me has bags of skill and could be one of the finds of our season.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:40 pm
by RedRedWine
Played well again - no points this time but we deserved one at least. Two defensive lapses cost us, otherwise it was pretty much all all Morecambe. Can’t see us keeping hold of AJ for the season, best player on the park today.

I know Oliver hasn’t cut the mustard to date - but I think booing our own player as he enters the field is not constructive and also not the Morecambe way. I’ll give anybody a clap for this club who puts the effort in and displays commitment. Booing before he’s had chance to do either or impact the game is not on in my opinion - even if you disagree. It’s also got to the point where I think people are being unfair - I’ve read people saying he missed from a yard.... he was doing his best to get a touch on Kevs header that should’ve been buried and went wide. Also Oswell, who looks great in general play, misses a guilt edged chance to give us hope and momentum at HT.... you’d expect a striker to put that away 8/10 - no critiscm. If Oliver missed that chance, people would be tying the noose. Let’s have some perspective.

PS Blackpool Gimp is ok for odd jobs this week.

Kind regards

RRW

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:42 pm
by John L
It was worse than that, RRW... The boos started as Oswell was walking off! Young Jason must've wondered what he'd done to deserve that! Of course, Vadaine hasn't been enjoying good form but I think it's totally out of order for him to be booed before he's even entered the pitch!

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 10:48 pm
by Keith
Completely agree. Booing our own players will destroy what little confidence Oliver has left. He's coming on the pitch, wearing a Morecambe shirt, so regardless of what you think of the decision to make the substitution, back the lad.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:02 pm
by Phil Anderer
Assume the booing was in the Omega as I didn't hear it in the main stand. Agree totally out of order. I along with one or two others stood and applauded Jason off, but did sit down again for Oliver's arrival.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:05 pm
by John L
Phil Anderer wrote:Assume the booing was in the Omega as I didn't hear it in the main stand. Agree totally out of order. I along with one or two others stood and applauded Jason off, but did sit down again for Oliver's arrival.



Yes it was, from the central area.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:03 am
by mrpotatohead
The comments Oliver is getting on here are out of order, he may be going through a rough patch, but he's a Morecambe FC player, get off his back please it's nasty and unwelcome.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:31 am
by Westgate Wanderer
mrpotatohead wrote:The comments Oliver is getting on here are out of order, he may be going through a rough patch, but he's a Morecambe FC player, get off his back please it's nasty and unwelcome.
Yes he is a Morecambe fc player but does he deserve the position? Not as far as i'm concerned,3 goals in 50 odd appearances does not make good reading for a supposed striker.He need to be taken out of the first team and put i n the reserves and, when he scores a few goals there he can return to the first team. As for his treatment on here is it any worse than the crap BS gets off other fellow supporters??

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:21 am
by redrobo
Maybe a leading National League club could want him on loan but would he be prepared to go.... ;)

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:25 am
by fulwoodshrimp
Could this National League club be in Wales?

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:36 am
by Westgate Wanderer
fulwoodshrimp wrote:Could this National League club be in Wales?
If Oliver goes into their forward line he just wrecks em

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:45 am
by redrobo
Westgate Wanderer wrote:
fulwoodshrimp wrote:Could this National League club be in Wales?
If Oliver goes into their forward line he just wrecks em


:o :lol: ;)

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:49 am
by Keith
Westgate Wanderer wrote:As for his treatment on here is it any worse than the crap BS gets off other fellow supporters??


An interesting comparison. I can't remember ever saying I was a BS supporter, but I am a Morecambe FC supporter. I haven't got a BS shirt or hoodie but I have got Morecambe FC shirts & hoodies. I haven't even got a BS mug, although sometimes I feel like a mug for letting him back on! :roll:

Oliver hasn't performed as we'd all have wanted, including I'm sure, Oliver himself, but if he's on a pitch as part of a Morecambe team, then I'll support him. I hope he gets a fluke of a ricochet goal where the ball just hits him on the arse and trickles over the line! Anything to give his confidence a boost. As I've said before, perhaps a run in the reserves to remember where the goal is. But booing him before he's even come on to the pitch is not 'supporting', it is the complete opposite.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:35 pm
by steve mfc
There was definitely some booing but maybe it was aimed at the managers decision regarding the substitution rather than being targeted at Oliver, lets be honest that has certainly happened before.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:40 pm
by KenH
steve mfc wrote:There was definitely some booing but maybe it was aimed at the managers decision regarding the substitution rather than being targeted at Oliver, lets be honest that has certainly happened before.


I'd have to agree with that. Nothing at all against Oliver, it's Jim's continued use of him as some kind of answer to our problems that I don't agree with. Same last season - keep putting him in the "Lion's den" of the first team is just sapping his confidence even more. He needs a good run in the reserves or loaned out to get him out of his low ebb. Keep setting him up to fail does no-one any good at all.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 2:51 pm
by Blackpoolshrimp
Keith if you want to block me off here I really really don't care

There is people a lot worse than me on this forum but hey ho

I will never brown nose anyone either ... We are going to struggle again this season that's my opinion

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:16 pm
by mrpotatohead
I think it's the fact you only appear when things are bad, you seem glad, and you don't attend games BPS????.....I think Oliver is suffering coz he is being treat shabbily on social media generally, not just on here, as for Jimbo , thank God he's started taking Red Robbos advice on tactics and team selection :lol:

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:56 pm
by Keith
mrpotatohead wrote:I think it's the fact you only appear when things are bad, you seem glad [when we lose]


That's exactly it. Don't gloat when we lose and spend some time posting when we've done well. We've played really well in the last two matches but you can't bring yourself to recognise that.

Re: One swallow does not make a spring

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:57 pm
by Blackpoolshrimp
Unless you agree with the few Brownies your opinion doesn't matter