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Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 9:39 am
by paulshrimp
I have just been looking at the remaining fixtures for the bottom seven clubs and making estimations on how their remaining games will work out. Even in mega pessimistic mode I cannot see us finishing worse than 5 points clear of relegation. I think that the bottom three as it stands now will fight it out for survival. It anyone wants to see a footballing festival, I would suggest Huish Park next Saturday when Crawley are the visitors. Both teams are near enough in free fall despite Yeovil’s late goal yesterday.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:22 am
by black morse
Being selfish I'm hoping Yeovil can survive. If they went it only leaves me with Exeter where I can watch Morecambe......and if Exeter go up as well.......
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:06 am
by Little Shrimp
black morse wrote:Being selfish I'm hoping Yeovil can survive. If they went it only leaves me with Exeter where I can watch Morecambe......and if Exeter go up as well.......
Don't think there's anything to worry about with Exeter in the playoffs
I think we're pretty much safe. Our form from Port Vale onwards has been incredibly good - got pointed out on Twitter that we've taken 17 points from 10 games. That kind of form over a season would give a team 78 points, which is playoff/potential automatic.
We're in excellent form and comfortably clear of the relegation zone. Yeovil are now most definitely sucked into it, and Crawley are dropping alarmingly. Hopefully a win on Saturday against Grimsby will do enough to all but certify our safety.
Fingers crossed we can keep most of this current squad together for next season. Hopefully Jim is making those contract offers and having a word in Richie Bennett's ear!
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:17 am
by Phoenix Shrimp 2017
Looking ahead to next season is there anyone we've seen playing against us this season who we'd like and is realistically attainable. For me Kosylo from Halifax looked a very tricky effective player when we played the FA Cup replay at the Shay. He missed the first game at Morecambe through suspension but other than that has been an ever present for them. If Kev hangs up his boots then Kosylo would make an ideal replacement.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:20 am
by redrobo
Little Shrimp wrote:black morse wrote:Being selfish I'm hoping Yeovil can survive. If they went it only leaves me with Exeter where I can watch Morecambe......and if Exeter go up as well.......
Don't think there's anything to worry about with Exeter in the playoffs
I think we're pretty much safe. Our form from Port Vale onwards has been incredibly good - got pointed out on Twitter that we've taken 17 points from 10 games. That kind of form over a season would give a team 78 points, which is playoff/potential automatic.
We're in excellent form and comfortably clear of the relegation zone. Yeovil are now most definitely sucked into it, and Crawley are dropping alarmingly. Hopefully a win on Saturday against Grimsby will do enough to all but certify our safety.
Fingers crossed we can keep most of this current squad together for next season. Hopefully Jim is making those contract offers and having a word in Richie Bennett's ear!
Sorry but I can't agree. We struggled v Crawley and by all accounts we struggled yesterday.
We had a purple patch and had a run of positive results only a few weeks back but since then we really have reverted to type. Not sure why but we are not in an excellent run at this moment but like you a win v Grimsby will confirm our EFL survival although for me we should be safe already but we all know how perilous how a run of poor from and results can change things.
As for Kosylo he gives me the impression of being in and out of games and doesn't perform on a consistent level. Ideal for us then....
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:46 am
by Phoenix Shrimp 2017
You could be right RR. However he tore us a new one in the first half of that game and was very entertaining to watch. Second half not as effective but he'd done that much running with the ball earlier that he deserved to take his foot off the gas. If he could do it in the EFL I feel he'd be a real fans favourite.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:59 am
by Keith
redrobo wrote:Sorry but I can't agree. We struggled v Crawley and by all accounts we struggled yesterday.
...but we are not in an excellent run at this moment...
I don't think we "struggled" yesterday... whose accounts said we "struggled"? A draw was probably a fair result.
As for "
not in an excellent run" comment, I'd say 'play off' form is excellent!
Form Guide: 7th April 2019
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:38 pm
by Slanester
Keith wrote:redrobo wrote:Sorry but I can't agree. We struggled v Crawley and by all accounts we struggled yesterday.
...but we are not in an excellent run at this moment...
I don't think we "struggled" yesterday... whose accounts said we "struggled"? A draw was probably a fair result.
As for "
not in an excellent run" comment, I'd say 'play off' form is excellent!
Form Guide: 7th April 2019
+1 to that Keith.
Reverting to type..........
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 12:46 pm
by Joe Oh
Agree with redrobo on Kosylo. He ripped us to shreds in that first half but it was as if he wasn't playing in the second when Halifax were battling to defend.
Incredibly talented but seemed at bit like a luxury player.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:58 pm
by mrpotatohead
So in summary ....no one who went yesterday thought we struggled ,or reverted to type except RR.....who never went
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 4:32 pm
by redrobo
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:23 pm
by black morse
Interesting table on Keith's post. 3 of the top 6 are towards the bottom of the league which just shows how motivated some teams can be when they are in trouble.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 6:28 pm
by marky No.1
We dominated for the first half hour, then we conceded from a long punt that went over Zaks head and he couldn't stop the cross to an unmarked player while Conlan was missing, so crap defending.
This gave Macc a lift and could quite easily have got another from a well worked free kick that tickled away from the post.
Lost our way a bit, but can't say we struggled. Their no.7 caused us problems, admittedly.
We looked to settle for 1.1 well before the end
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:05 pm
by Slanester
marky No.1 wrote:We dominated for the first half hour, then we conceded from a long punt that went over Zaks head and he couldn't stop the cross to an unmarked player while Conlan was missing, so crap defending.
This gave Macc a lift and could quite easily have got another from a well worked free kick that tickled away from the post.
Lost our way a bit, but can't say we struggled. Their no.7 caused us problems, admittedly.
We looked to settle for 1.1 well before the end
We also had a goal disallowed for, from what I could see, a not very clear offside decision(?) It might have been clearer on iFollow?
For a team “fighting” for league survival, Macc were pretty toothless in my opinion. We could, and probably should have killed them off in the first half. Not a particularly memorable game, but another big point for the Shrimps.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 7:21 pm
by black morse
marky No.1 wrote:We dominated for the first half hour, then we conceded from a long punt that went over Zaks head and he couldn't stop the cross to an unmarked player while Conlan was missing, so crap defending.
This gave Macc a lift and could quite easily have got another from a well worked free kick that tickled away from the post.
Lost our way a bit, but can't say we struggled. Their no.7 caused us problems, admittedly.
We looked to settle for 1.1 well before the end
Hope that when we are finally out of relegation danger Jim will tell the players to go for it and forget this 'settle for a draw' business. Give the fans a treat in the last few games and leave them with something to really look forward to next season.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 8:47 pm
by Keith
But that isn't what you said originally! "
By all accounts we struggled" is simply not true. As has been said, we could have had them buried in the first half an hour. Likewise, they had a chance to go 2-1 up. Either team could have won it and a draw was fair. We didn't "struggle" and this wasn't a 'lucky' point.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 10:48 pm
by paschahound
Slanester wrote:
We also had a goal disallowed for, from what I could see, a not very clear offside decision(?) It might have been clearer on iFollow?
It was impossible to tell from the ifollow angle.
With regards to the game, I'd say a draw was definitely a fair result and a good point. However, their goal was a bit too soft and we should have beaten them, given how bad they were in the opening 30.
Re: Final league table
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Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:30 pm
by marky No.1
black morse wrote:marky No.1 wrote:We dominated for the first half hour, then we conceded from a long punt that went over Zaks head and he couldn't stop the cross to an unmarked player while Conlan was missing, so crap defending.
This gave Macc a lift and could quite easily have got another from a well worked free kick that tickled away from the post.
Lost our way a bit, but can't say we struggled. Their no.7 caused us problems, admittedly.
We looked to settle for 1.1 well before the end
Hope that when we are finally out of relegation danger Jim will tell the players to go for it and forget this 'settle for a draw' business. Give the fans a treat in the last few games and leave them with something to really look forward to next season.
Player celebrations at Notts and Macc, show how happy they were with a draw. Looking back, if we had lost those 2 games, we would still be very much in the do do.
As you say it would be good to see us unleashed in the last 3 or 4 games
Re: Final league table
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:33 am
by paulshrimp
Marky’s point about Conan being absent for their goal is a good one. If you look on Ifollow you will see that he had just taken a throw in about 10 yards from their corner flag. When Rose played that long ball forward no one was covering for Conan which caused the problem.
When Kev’s goal was disallowed the linesman was indicating an offside on the far side of the pitch which must have been the ball being knocked back by Old(?). Kev was clearly onside.
I agree with the comments about us not being under real pressure during the match. After Macc had equalised they had a fair bit of the ball but never created any real chances. Their shooting was appalling and we took the point quite easily.
Re: Final league table
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:21 pm
by Freez
I’ve watched it back a few times, when Mandeville plays the ball, Old is clearly onside by at least a yard, another crap decision that has affected our points haul.
Re: Final league table
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:31 pm
by paulshrimp
Lee Probert is a premier league ref. Does that mean his linesmen were also PL? In that case, getting the offside wrong is shameful.
Re: Final league table
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 1:55 pm
by Slanester
Freez wrote:I’ve watched it back a few times, when Mandeville plays the ball, Old is clearly onside by at least a yard, another crap decision that has affected our points haul.
Cheers F. That’s how it looked on the day too, even without being able to re-watch it. Very poor decision,
AGAIN.
Re: Final league table
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Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:50 pm
by Niborian_Shrimp
paulshrimp wrote:Lee Probert is a premier league ref. Does that mean his linesmen were also PL? In that case, getting the offside wrong is shameful.
His assistants on Saturday were Andy Garratt and Daniel Robathan. No idea who was on which side.
Robathan has done 22 PL games this season including some very big games.
https://www.worldfootball.net/referee_summary/daniel-robathan/3/2/eng-premier-league-2018-2019/Garratt is similar with 18 PL games.
https://www.worldfootball.net/referee_summary/andy-garratt/3/2/eng-premier-league-2018-2019/So yes, shameful. Was there any specific reason they were doing our game?
Re: Final league table
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Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:57 pm
by marky No.1
Macclesfield beat Exeter tonight so Yeovil are in drop zone
Re: Final league table
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Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:12 am
by Slanester
marky No.1 wrote:Macclesfield beat Exeter tonight so Yeovil are in drop zone
Shows just how important our performance and a point on Sat were.
COYS.
(Also the 4 pts gained in 2, “not pretty,” games to watch, against Notts and Crawley. Well done the lads.)