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Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2019 6:47 pm
by AndyReifman
https://www.morecambefc.com/news/2019/m ... ased-list/

The following out of contract players will be offered new deals: Aaron Wildig, Andy Fleming, Luke Conlan, Mark Halstead, Kevin Ellison, Jordan Cranston, Zak Mills, Barry Roche, A-Jay Leitch-Smith and Aaron Collins.

The following players remain in contract: Sam Lavelle, Ritchie Sutton, Steven Old, Andrew Tutte, Rhys Oates.

One year options will be activated on: Carlos Mendes-Gomes, Lamine Jagne, Kyle Hawley and Tyler Brownsword.

The following players have been allowed to leave: Adam Campbell, Vadaine Oliver, Dawid Szczepaniak, James Sinclair and Ben Hedley.

The following loan players have returned to their parent clubs: Richie Bennett, Liam Mandeville, Sam Dalby Paul McKay and Piero Mingoia.

Talks are ongoing with Alex Kenyon.


Article includes some more information (like why we're letting Oliver go.) Hoping we can keep the core together, the team ended the season really well.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:21 am
by asda shrimp
If bennett has been released from carlisle how has he gone back to his parent club ?,confused,can we not offer him a contract then ?.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 6:28 am
by mrpotatohead
So as things stand, we have 10 players under contract, a mixed bag of players offered new deals, and the loaned players all returned to sender!!

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:15 am
by Phoenix Shrimp 2017
asda shrimp wrote:If bennett has been released from carlisle how has he gone back to his parent club ?,confused,can we not offer him a contract then ?.


I think all contracts expire at the end of June. Therefore he is contracted to (and paid by) Carlisle till then. At that point he can sign for another club. We may, or may not have offered him a deal but if accepted it won't become active till then.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 9:34 am
by KenH
asda shrimp wrote:If bennett has been released from carlisle how has he gone back to his parent club ?,confused,can we not offer him a contract then ?.


The MFC announcement was probably prepared before the Carlisle announcement that he was being released.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:02 am
by Gone_Shrimping
asda shrimp wrote:If bennett has been released from carlisle how has he gone back to his parent club ?,confused,can we not offer him a contract then ?.


He would have to return to Carlisle to find out if he has been released. They pay his salary until 30th June.

If players don't sign or find a club until after 1st August then the employer (Carlisle in this case) have to pay him his July salary which is a payment in lieu of notice just like in civvy street. This is why lots of clubs don't announce signings until August so they save a month's salary. We did this when we signed Podge from Accrington.

Some Carlisle fans have said we have offered Richie Bennett a 2 year contract. I would be happy if that is so.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:13 am
by Seasider9601
Discussion on the Barrow forum about Bennett returning to Holker Street too, but many don't seem keen.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 10:45 am
by redrobo
KenH wrote:
asda shrimp wrote:If bennett has been released from carlisle how has he gone back to his parent club ?,confused,can we not offer him a contract then ?.


The MFC announcement was probably prepared before the Carlisle announcement that he was being released.


Wouldn't surprise me if Carlisle had a word with both Bennett and ourselves sometime over the last few months that they would be releasing him.

With V leaving don't be surprised if Bennett appears in a red shirt next season.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:07 am
by SupermarketShrimp
With V leaving don't be surprised if Bennett appears in a red shirt next season.


That would be my thinking too.

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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:10 am
by RapidShrimp
I wouldn’t be too surprised if we see McKay next season - Jim’s been impressed by his attitude and skillset apparently but Cardiff are set to let him go :shock: :!:

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:27 am
by redrobo
RapidShrimp wrote:I wouldn’t be too surprised if we see McKay next season - Jim’s been impressed by his attitude and skillset apparently but Cardiff are set to let him go :shock: :!:


Interesting.... :?

JB only gave him a first team game a week or so ago despite being with us since the New Year.

He didn't stand out for me being one of those players who you tend not to notice BUT if JB is keen on him....OK... :)

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:37 pm
by RedRedWine
redrobo wrote:
KenH wrote:
asda shrimp wrote:If bennett has been released from carlisle how has he gone back to his parent club ?,confused,can we not offer him a contract then ?.


The MFC announcement was probably prepared before the Carlisle announcement that he was being released.


Wouldn't surprise me if Carlisle had a word with both Bennett and ourselves sometime over the last few months that they would be releasing him.

With V leaving don't be surprised if Bennett appears in a red shirt next season.


Seems odd that we seem to have known Oliver would be leaving (no deal offered because the player wants to move back down south), yet he's been playing ahead of Bennett for the last few weeks. Unless Jim wanted to get the lad back fit and putting himself in the shop window - "we owe it to x to get him back fit" is a line I've heard before, which is honourable of the club and Jim - although you'd think it would've been a good opportunity to trial some of the lads who do have a future here in competitive games. Who knows, perhaps Jimbo has seen enough from Richie to make a decision one way or another or there's been injuries that we're not aware of. On the face of it though, a little strange IMO.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 12:51 pm
by Shrimpy
RedRedWine wrote:Seems odd that we seem to have known Oliver would be leaving (no deal offered because the player wants to move back down south), yet he's been playing ahead of Bennett for the last few weeks. Unless Jim wanted to get the lad back fit and putting himself in the shop window - "we owe it to x to get him back fit" is a line I've heard before, which is honourable of the club and Jim - although you'd think it would've been a good opportunity to trial some of the lads who do have a future here in competitive games. Who knows, perhaps Jimbo has seen enough from Richie to make a decision one way or another or there's been injuries that we're not aware of. On the face of it though, a little strange IMO.

Could be that Bennett knew Carlisle would be releasing him and that he said he'll sign with us. Jim has then taken the decision not to play him to avoid any potential injuries that could scupper the deal or him attracting interest from other clubs if he continued to put in good performances?

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 2:18 pm
by Shrimp Girl
RedRedWine wrote:Seems odd that we seem to have known Oliver would be leaving (no deal offered because the player wants to move back down south), yet he's been playing ahead of Bennett for the last few weeks. Unless Jim wanted to get the lad back fit and putting himself in the shop window - "we owe it to x to get him back fit" is a line I've heard before, which is honourable of the club and Jim - although you'd think it would've been a good opportunity to trial some of the lads who do have a future here in competitive games. Who knows, perhaps Jimbo has seen enough from Richie to make a decision one way or another or there's been injuries that we're not aware of. On the face of it though, a little strange IMO.


Vadaine is from Sheffield - I love a Lancastrian who considers that to be 'down south.' Although as someone who gets a bit jittery once south of Stockport, I'm inclined to agree with you :D

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 7:58 pm
by tim-sanchez
RedRedWine wrote:Seems odd that we seem to have known Oliver would be leaving (no deal offered because the player wants to move back down south), yet he's been playing ahead of Bennett for the last few weeks. Unless Jim wanted to get the lad back fit and putting himself in the shop window - "we owe it to x to get him back fit" is a line I've heard before, which is honourable of the club and Jim - although you'd think it would've been a good opportunity to trial some of the lads who do have a future here in competitive games. Who knows, perhaps Jimbo has seen enough from Richie to make a decision one way or another or there's been injuries that we're not aware of. On the face of it though, a little strange IMO.


All speculation of course, but there may have been other implications if we played Bennett as well, for example if he made X appearances or played X minutes we owed Carlisle a fee.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:02 pm
by Zip It Shrimpy
mrpotatohead wrote:So as things stand, we have 10 players under contract, a mixed bag of players offered new deals, and the loaned players all returned to sender!!


I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it stays for the remainder of May.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2019 11:57 pm
by Keith
Zip It Shrimpy wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it stays for the remainder of May.


The month or the Prime Ministership?

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 6:22 am
by black morse
Keith wrote:
Zip It Shrimpy wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it stays for the remainder of May.


The month or the Prime Ministership?


Now don't be silly Keith....if it was the PM it would surely be O/T :lol:

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 10:53 am
by Zip It Shrimpy
My Dad had an annoying thing he would say every year about not casting your clouts until May is out. Which is true because it looks as if that won't be until Halloween night now.
He did go on to say that it meant May blossom and not the month.

However, back to the topic, there's probably not much more transfer news that can be confirmed until at least early June. Plenty of REMAIN / LEAVE fun to be had though.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 11:48 am
by Bare bum

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:08 pm
by Freez
He’d do for me.

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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2019 1:14 pm
by redrobo
A forward line of Bennett, Collins and Miller would provide goals, excitement and entertainment.

Miller picking up the knock ons from Bennett and Collins on the wing coming inside...phew... :D :D :D

If only.... :?: :?: :?:

Just hope that he's no longer annoyed at the way he was treated by a former Director regarding wages.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 4:59 am
by John L
I doubt Miller would come back. He couldn't wait to get out of here, citing the long commute as being a problem... even though he then spent time at Carlisle for a while afterwards!

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 7:20 am
by KenH
John L wrote:I doubt Miller would come back. He couldn't wait to get out of here, citing the long commute as being a problem... even though he then spent time at Carlisle for a while afterwards!


And like Devitt, got a lot of stick from our "fans" when he's been back at the globe, so I don't think we'll be high on his list for his next club.

Re: Retained and Released list

PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2019 9:42 am
by Keith
John L wrote:I doubt Miller would come back. He couldn't wait to get out of here, citing the long commute as being a problem... even though he then spent time at Carlisle for a while afterwards!


Really? A completely different story to the one I heard! I was told that he was going to sign until a last minute ‘intervention’ by someone at the club led to the deal falling through. As long as he’s still on good terms with Jim and the person responsible for the collapsed deal is no longer involved, then it could be a welcome return for him and us.

Obviously, what I heard may have been rubbish! :lol: :lol: :lol: