Shrimpsvoices

Anyone had a chance to watch their first goal again? Was it dreadful officials costing us a very poor, but ultimately welcome point, or suicidal defending?

A travesty to pick Kenyon yes and incompetence to play for a draw by jb,I rest my case,guilty on both charges!

Jim thinks it was a fair goal and takes the blame for the tactical errors. After the Port Vale game last season, we should have never tried it again.

From where I was stood and the angle of the camera....it looks offside to me

The routine defending free kicks needs looking at!


Basically the officials at L2 level are to inconsistent, you cant trust them playing the off-side trap like that.

Andy D wrote:The routine defending free kicks needs looking at!


Basically the officials at L2 level are to inconsistent, you cant trust them playing the off-side trap like that.

Should've just stayed back and defended the cross! Always open to a dodgy decission by the refs assistants doing the stepping up routine (players need to watch the full monty). Set pieces at both ends needs addressing, again the question of what they actually do in training raises its head. Has anything improved since Crapaldi criticised out pub team training?

Why is it when someone gets a goal it’s a dodgy ref or a dodgy decision. It’s a goal. For experienced professional footballers to defend in that manner is shocking. Play the whistle like we teach the kids to do.

We need to give up this offside trap tactic. Even if you execute it perfectly 10 times out of 10, you are relying on the officials calling it, which won’t always happen with league 2 officials.

Despite a bumper crowd and an excellent playing surface we were undone by a much used routine that JB said was his decision to use and accepts full responsibility for in his post match interview which was more about how they played than how we did.

However he failed to discuss his team selection and negative home tactics again that for me were part of the problem.

To pick Kenyon ahead of Cranston was in my opinion wrong as was his failure to start with a front line that should have included Stockton. Also the failure to bring on Brewitt who by all accounts has done well in pre season is hard to understand.

Throughout the close season I argued that we needed to strengthen midfield and that lack of action in that area was proved to be part of the problem. To put it blunt;ly we had NO midfield and therefore our striker was starved of service.

No complaints about the second goal other than it was scored by a someone signed from Scarboro in the close season.

I hope that we can bring in a midfield supremo before the window closes otherwise it's going to be a repeat of past seasons.

There we go again cc,1 game and spouting already,i think you will find stocton been ill this week.

mfcbro wrote:There we go again cc,1 game and spouting already,i think you will find stocton been ill this week.

I take it that your comments are not restricted to me as others are far more critical than mine.

JB admitted he got it wrong.....

Maybe you could explain why O Sullivan was starved of service in the later stages of the game....

"Maybe you could explain why O Sullivan was starved of service in the later stages of the game.... " Probably cause nobody passed to him.

CC WROTE "I hope that we can bring in a midfield supremo before the window closes otherwise it's going to be a repeat of past seasons." Where do you propose we get the money from ?

mfcbro wrote:"Maybe you could explain why O Sullivan was starved of service in the later stages of the game.... "

Probably cause nobody passed to him.

I was disappointed we didn't start with 2 up front, looked like Alessandra didn't know what his job was at times, but I didn't realise Cole had a bad week.

Agree there was a large gap in midfield, if we got the ball there were 2 or 3 mariners all over us, when they got the ball they had freedom.

Thought Cranston would have started as well. Like watching the keystone cops at the end and was disappointed to see an exodus of a good home following of 1800 walk away before the final whistle, shame really.

Buxton was great in mid season with his passing and cross field balls, so was disappointed with his dead ball kicks.

Didn't expect alex to start, but as he has trimmed down assumed his game had gone up a level, but his passing and distribution was somewhat cr@p

After that poor performance we just have to hope that most of the 1,800 bother to return! Grimsby finished one point ahead of us last season, they clearly have improved but have we??

Westgate Wanderer wrote:After that poor performance we just have to hope that most of the 1,800 bother to return! Grimsby finished one point ahead of us last season, they clearly have improved but have we??

yes, we are only -2 instead of -6

mfcbro wrote:CC WROTE "I hope that we can bring in a midfield supremo before the window closes otherwise it's going to be a repeat of past seasons." Where do you propose we get the money from ?

With such a large squad we should loan out a number of the younger players and use their wages to get a loan in from a higher league club as in previous seasons.

The PNE manager on Radio Lancashire has already said that a number of his squad may need to be loaned out to get valuable game time.

Our relationship with Everton is excellent. Why not try for Evans once again?

Just trying to be helpful.....or am I not allowed to pass a point of view...

CC calm down old chap.

Completely agree with you on midfield.

The reality is that there is no money for loans. Rod made that very clear at the Trust AGM when he pleaded for £7k to pay for the Miller loan and Alessandra. We’ve got a lot of players and we’ve got to make them work.

marky No.1 wrote:

Westgate Wanderer wrote:After that poor performance we just have to hope that most of the 1,800 bother to return! Grimsby finished one point ahead of us last season, they clearly have improved but have we??

yes, we are only -2 instead of -6

Wasting your time Marky, same few season after season can't bloody wait for a slip up before jumping all over it, Same back in my home town

However he failed to discuss his team selection and negative home tactics again that for me were part of the problem.

To pick Kenyon ahead of Cranston was in my opinion wrong as was his failure to start with a front line that should have included Stockton

For once, I agree with CC. The frustrating thing is I believe we have the squad to really go at, a very ordinary, Grimsby side at home. I really hope Jim learns from it.

We’ve got a lot of players and we’ve got to make them work.

I would have liked to have seen us replace Fleming, but I'm sure Pepe would like to add Mbappe to his frontline. We have near enough a fully fit squad and look to have luxurious options in comparison to previous years.

This particular defeat hurt for me, but I hope we can brush ourselves off and learn from it immediately.

Watched it on the lowlights. Can't tell from the angle if the first ball was onside or not but the knock across for the goal scorer looks offside, regardless of the free kick itself, so potentially two offences.

Exactly what a viewer abroad texted in, I didn’t have the facility to replay it myself, but he texted saying the pass for the goal wasnt square but played forward, the receiver who scored WAS offside.
Gone now mind!

Would be interesting to see VAR pick the bones out of that one. There were several Grimsby players in off side positions, but were they interfering with play??? The lad who the ball dropped to possibly wasn't (you couldn't tell from the angle shown) but ones thing for sure I hope we ditch the off side trap and soon. It's a lottery and one you are likely to lose fairly often.A liner has a nightmare decision to make in a split second so there's every chance the wrong decision will result fairly often.They're only human after all!

Freez wrote:Exactly what a viewer abroad texted in, I didn’t have the facility to replay it myself, but he texted saying the pass for the goal wasnt square but played forward, the receiver who scored WAS offside.
Gone now mind!

What did it for me is the reaction and body language from the Grimsby Dugout and Fans behind the Goal, they couldn't believe it, and immediately looked over to the linesman in disbelief before celebrating.

Phoenix Shrimp 2017 wrote:Would be interesting to see VAR pick the bones out of that one. There were several Grimsby players in off side positions, but were they interfering with play???

But definitely interfering with play in the second phase.

As I've said elsewhere, we could still be playing now and still not have scored, we looked dreadful in terms of creativity. But Grimsby were gifted a goal by the linesman.

How often do we get dodgy decisions go our way? Hardly ever. It certainly doesn't seem to balance out for us.