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BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football Leagu

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:22 pm
by RapidShrimp
Deserves its own (new) post... really sad news, takeover fell through and league one will now proceed with 23 teams... First club since ‘92...

The EFL are a disgrace.

https://www.efl.com/news/2019/august/bury-fc-membership-of-the-league-withdrawn/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49451896

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/49489146

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2019 10:29 pm
by RapidShrimp
In other (well not really ‘other’) news, Bolton have been given 14 days for the administrators to attempt to “secure the long-term future of the club.”

https://www.efl.com/news/2019/august/bolton-wanderers-suspension-on-notice-of-withdrawal-lifted/

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:48 am
by Keith
Really sad, absolutely gutted for the fans, I can't even imagine how I would feel if it was us. I hope they can rise again.

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:16 am
by Gone_Shrimping
How did Dale pass the fit and proper test ?

The EFL don't come out of this smelling of anything but bullsh*t

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:18 am
by KenH
Gone_Shrimping wrote:How did Dale pass the fit and proper test ?

The EFL don't come out of this smelling of anything but bullsh*t


Presumably the same way Diego Lamos passed it despite having no money!

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:29 am
by Slanester
Keith wrote:Really sad, absolutely gutted for the fans, I can't even imagine how I would feel if it was us. I hope they can rise again.


Almost beyond words.

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:35 am
by Ntini
I could pass the fit and proper test - it doesn't mean I can fund a club. It's meaningless in terms of any relevant analysis of an individual's ability to own/run a club properly. The only purpose it serves is a mechanism to prevent known bad apples from owning a club again (such as Vaughan at Chester).

If the EFL were serious about their duty to protect the integrity of their leagues and their members, then they would have no option other than to introduce some form of regulation around salary caps. Too many clubs are spending beyond their means which leaves the leagues looking something like this:

Top 1/3 - Clubs overspending to gain promotion
Middle 1/3 - Clubs living within their means with no real consistent chance of gaining promotion
Bottom 1/3 - Clubs living within their means with a small budget and struggling to compete / Clubs that have spent beyond their means and are now struggling financially

The PL will never buy into a salary cap as it will detract from their product (attracting the best players in the world on ludicrous salaries). But the EFL is being dragged along by those hunting for that 'prize'.

Bury (and possibly Bolton) will just be brushed off as collateral damage as the money juggernaut chugs on. Very sad.

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:31 am
by Vinny
Ntini wrote:I could pass the fit and proper test - it doesn't mean I can fund a club. It's meaningless in terms of any relevant analysis of an individual's ability to own/run a club properly. The only purpose it serves is a mechanism to prevent known bad apples from owning a club again (such as Vaughan at Chester).

If the EFL were serious about their duty to protect the integrity of their leagues and their members, then they would have no option other than to introduce some form of regulation around salary caps. Too many clubs are spending beyond their means which leaves the leagues looking something like this:

Top 1/3 - Clubs overspending to gain promotion
Middle 1/3 - Clubs living within their means with no real consistent chance of gaining promotion
Bottom 1/3 - Clubs living within their means with a small budget and struggling to compete / Clubs that have spent beyond their means and are now struggling financially

The PL will never buy into a salary cap as it will detract from their product (attracting the best players in the world on ludicrous salaries). But the EFL is being dragged along by those hunting for that 'prize'.

Bury (and possibly Bolton) will just be brushed off as collateral damage as the money juggernaut chugs on. Very sad.

A very good summing-up, and yes very sad for the clubs and fans affected directly and for football generally. Sadly, it's the commercial cut and thrust, boom or bust, financial economics that we have in our society, with little of charitable ethics from the top dogs, to prevent situations like this arising. It has spoiled the sporting competition for League One this season, and knock-on effect for League Two at the end of the season. Not good for the game.

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 4:11 pm
by MFC-Manc
A bidder has turned up...... with money to invest and wants the efl to put bury back in the league.....
Not sure what this group have been doing for the last ten weeks

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:21 pm
by Brian S
And Bolton survive, sold minutes ago.

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:38 pm
by Keith
"Fit and Proper Persons Test"?

Is Debbie Jevans 'fit & proper' to be in charge of the English Football League? "Lessons learned"... she sounds like a crap politician rather than a leader. On Steve Dale buying the club for one pound... that was nothing to do with the English Football League... yet no view as to how that complied with the 'fit & proper' test?

No help, no enforcement, do direction, no leadership, no idea... pathetic. :cry:

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 5:45 pm
by Redalert1970
Bury have appealed to the EFL to keep them in the league

This can`t happen or can it ???

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:48 pm
by RonF

Re: BREAKING: Bury F.C. Expelled from the English Football L

PostPosted: Thu Aug 29, 2019 7:30 am
by P/T Indie
Wow that was a long read.

So bolton have a similar situation to us where their hotel is under another company but has also gone into administration. However any new deal seems to include both the hotel and club maybe because ateast the hotel is an asset, where as we have just type of forgotten all about the PMG leisure part.