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Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:47 pm
by Keith
As it stands, the positions of the teams we've played so far this season:

Exeter 1st
Swindon 4th
Cheltenham 6th
Grimsby 7th,
Macclesfield 9th
Mansfield 12th
Salford 15th

First seven matches, Salford are the lowest placed club.

Next five games:

Port Vale 14th
Northampton 18th
Walsall 21st
Oldham 22nd
Scunthorpe 24th

Of course the gloomy, pint half empty brigade will suggest that the teams are doing well because they've played us already!

But the alternative view is, we've had a tough start and now have a run of weaker sides, relatively speaking. Let's aim for five wins in the next five games! 8-) 8-) 8-)

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:23 am
by Slanester
Keith wrote:As it stands, the positions of the teams we've played so far this season:

Exeter 1st
Swindon 4th
Cheltenham 6th
Grimsby 7th,
Macclesfield 9th
Mansfield 12th
Salford 15th

First seven matches, Salford are the lowest placed club.

Next five games:

Port Vale 14th
Northampton 18th
Walsall 21st
Oldham 22nd
Scunthorpe 24th

Of course the gloomy, pint half empty brigade will suggest that the teams are doing well because they've played us already!

But the alternative view is, we've had a tough start and now have a run of weaker sides, relatively speaking. Let's aim for five wins in the next five games! 8-) 8-) 8-)


Like it Keith.
3 pts AWAY today for starters, just to get the ball rolling. Can’t wait. COYS.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:03 am
by Andy D
So far this season I think from a football entertainment point of view I think we look better with 3 at the back and wing-backs

I love 4-4-2 but don't think we've got the quality to play that formation and will only get over run in midfield.

Slowly getting there, aslong as we stay up and play our best football at home and increase attendances.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 7:15 am
by al1
How many home wins this season so far?

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:52 am
by redrobo
Keith wrote:As it stands, the positions of the teams we've played so far this season:

Exeter 1st
Swindon 4th
Cheltenham 6th
Grimsby 7th,
Macclesfield 9th
Mansfield 12th
Salford 15th

First seven matches, Salford are the lowest placed club.

Next five games:

Port Vale 14th
Northampton 18th
Walsall 21st
Oldham 22nd
Scunthorpe 24th

Of course the gloomy, pint half empty brigade will suggest that the teams are doing well because they've played us already!

But the alternative view is, we've had a tough start and now have a run of weaker sides, relatively speaking. Let's aim for five wins in the next five games! 8-) 8-) 8-)


Interestingly 3 of those teams struggled along with us last season but have invested some monies to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Of course too early to predict what will be their final position but another example of some clubs willingness to gamble financially when nothing is certain. I'd rather we operated within our financial constraints than went on a 'shit or bust' journey into the unknown.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:00 am
by Gone_Shrimping
redrobo wrote:
Keith wrote:As it stands, the positions of the teams we've played so far this season:

Exeter 1st
Swindon 4th
Cheltenham 6th
Grimsby 7th,
Macclesfield 9th
Mansfield 12th
Salford 15th

First seven matches, Salford are the lowest placed club.

Next five games:

Port Vale 14th
Northampton 18th
Walsall 21st
Oldham 22nd
Scunthorpe 24th

Of course the gloomy, pint half empty brigade will suggest that the teams are doing well because they've played us already!

But the alternative view is, we've had a tough start and now have a run of weaker sides, relatively speaking. Let's aim for five wins in the next five games! 8-) 8-) 8-)


Interestingly 3 of those teams struggled along with us last season but have invested some monies to ensure that it doesn't happen again. Of course too early to predict what will be their final position but another example of some clubs willingness to gamble financially when nothing is certain. I'd rather we operated within our financial constraints than went on a 'shit or bust' journey into the unknown.


The worrying part of that is one of them , Macclesfield must have a very similar budget to us if not smaller. Yet they seem to have signed a lot of young talent from non-league that seems to be improving them as a team. Do our scouts not see the same promise in these players as the Macclesfield scouts ? We gave Kenyon a new contract when we should have been trying for Jay Harris who went to Macclesfield. We desperately need a like for like replacement for Fleming but we are told the budget is spent.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:41 am
by al1
So last seasons 3 home games v cheltenham,grimsby and exeter we accrued 4 points,this season against those teams we have 1 point.Goals scored last season 5 against 3 conceded,this season 2 goals scored and 5 conceded.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:49 am
by Andy D
Gone_Shrimping wrote:
The worrying part of that is one of them , Macclesfield must have a very similar budget to us if not smaller. Yet they seem to have signed a lot of young talent from non-league that seems to be improving them as a team. Do our scouts not see the same promise in these players as the Macclesfield scouts ? We gave Kenyon a new contract when we should have been trying for Jay Harris who went to Macclesfield. We desperately need a like for like replacement for Fleming but we are told the budget is spent.

Very good point! Macclesfield are in the N/W same catchment area.

It's Survival buying up & coming younger players who want to better themselves you can then sell on and make money on them.

Ie. Although I like Buxton(dependable), but was there not a younger R/B in non league with lots of ability we could have improved(coached) with us? And then potentially sold onto a Championship or L1 club for a six figure sum?

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:38 pm
by Keith
Gone_Shrimping wrote:
We desperately need a like for like replacement for Fleming but we are told the budget is spent.


Yes it is... ON FLEMING!!!

Until his insurance is agreed, he's still our player and being paid, so only once his position is agreed will his salary become available for another player.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:57 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
Keith wrote:
Gone_Shrimping wrote:
We desperately need a like for like replacement for Fleming but we are told the budget is spent.


Yes it is... ON FLEMING!!!

Until his insurance is agreed, he's still our player and being paid, so only once his position is agreed will his salary become available for another player.


Yes , I know. And quite rightly so as he has given us 9 years of service and we have to stand by him at this awful time for him.
We knew about his retirement before Kenyon signed a new contract and my point was the money should have gone towards a replacement for Fleming rather than on a bit part utility player.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:07 pm
by Phil Anderer
Keith wrote:As it stands, the positions of the teams we've played so far this season:

Exeter 1st
Swindon 4th
Cheltenham 6th
Grimsby 7th,
Macclesfield 9th
Mansfield 12th
Salford 15th

First seven matches, Salford are the lowest placed club.

Next five games:
:(
Port Vale 14th
Northampton 18th
Walsall 21st
Oldham 22nd
Scunthorpe 24th

Of course the gloomy, pint half empty brigade will suggest that the teams are doing well because they've played us already!

But the alternative view is, we've had a tough start and now have a run of weaker sides, relatively speaking. Let's aim for five wins in the next five games! 8-) 8-) 8-)


First of those 5 gone tits up Keith. :(

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:11 pm
by Keith
Phil Anderer wrote:First of those 5 gone tits up Keith. :(


Yup, I was feeling optimistic when I posted that and was thinking we were going to really attack Scunthorpe today. We were awful :cry: :cry: :cry: Play like that again on Tuesday and we will be in real trouble.

Re: Positions of Teams Played

PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:52 pm
by Sakhalin Shrimp
Keith wrote:
Of course the gloomy, pint half empty brigade will suggest that the teams are doing well because they've played us already!

But the alternative view is, we've had a tough start and now have a run of weaker sides, relatively speaking. Let's aim for five wins in the next five games! 8-) 8-) 8-)


It was my view that the teams doing well are at our expense and I think I’ve a right to be gloomy after today’s game. Really glad I was working at home and didn’t see it first hand.