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In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:59 pm
by Andy D
Just been brought to my attention that Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract in January.

With Derek promoting John as an assistant and Barry as a goal keeping coach who are already on the payrole, we could/should expect some much needed transfer activity?

Anybody else who's contract or loan up? might have room for at least four new players or more?

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:14 pm
by Keith
You're releasing Lewis then?

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 2:49 pm
by redrobo
Keith wrote:You're releasing Lewis then?


Not a case of releasing Lewis, more a case of offering him a new contract which in the present position we find ourselves as not being classed as a priority.

Wouldn't surprise me if he was offered something at AFC Fylde and decided to go there despite it being non league.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:06 pm
by Andy D
Keith wrote:You're releasing Lewis then?

No am i eckers like :shock: :lol:

Just pointing out Lewis is out of contract and is certainly one of our better players.

Unlike Miller who hasn't realy featured, and very similar to AJ Letch Smith and imo AJ is a betrer player and still under contract untill the end of the season?

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:09 pm
by Keith
Andy D wrote:
Keith wrote:You're releasing Lewis then?

No am i eckers like :shock: :lol:

Just pointing out Lewis is out of contract and is certainly one of our better players.

Unlike Miller who hasn't realy featured, and very similar to AJ Letch Smith and imo AJ is a betrer player and still under contract untill the end of the season?


I think I'd be happy with Lewis staying and three more players.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:18 pm
by Andy D
2 more central midfielders for me, and maybe another C/B to work alongside Sam Lavelle, and L/B needs looking at.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:26 pm
by mrpotatohead
No.one will leave unless they are out of contract.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:26 pm
by redrobo
As DA has pointed out, the squad is too big and unbalanced and as a result it needs a complete re evaluation to make it more competitive and also by reducing its size we could then afford more quality but still be in the budget previously set.

At the last count the squad was 27 which by reducing it to around 22 would be more manageable and cost effective.

We've already saved 2 full time salaries although I would expected both John and Baz to have had an increase in their salaries but that should still see us in a plus situation.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:30 pm
by mrpotatohead
Where has Derek said all these things Neil?

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm
by Andy D
mrpotatohead wrote:No.one will leave unless they are out of contract.

Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract after Xmas, get your eyes tested :geek:

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:35 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
mrpotatohead wrote:Where has Derek said all these things Neil?



He said them in the interview on our main OWS and also on the Radio Lancashire Sports Twitter.

Are we sure Miller isn't on loan for a full season ?

Defence is chronic and needs new blood soon.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:53 pm
by KenH
Isn't Lewis on contract, so he's with us to the end of the season at least (unless he's loaned out which I think would be a bad move as he's our main goal scorer this season, not injury prone and can actually play the full 90).

Miller is on loan and is the obvious one to let return to his home club as he's not really done much for us this time around.

Not sure who we have who could be loaned out for any worthwhile money. Presumably we'd have to loan out 3/4 of the youngsters to get an equivalent amount of money to pay a top player?

I can't imagine Derek has much wriggle room at all given who we've already got on the books. Yes, two wages saved and maybe 1 out 1 in for Millar and loaning out some youngsters, so maybe a total of 4 new faces in the January window - not easy for him at all considering the limitations - not sure 4 new players is enough, even if they're of good calibre given the current squad's weaknesses.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:56 pm
by Andy D
Andy D wrote:Just been brought to my attention that Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract in January.


Just incase anybody wants to ignore this again :twisted:

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:01 pm
by BerlinWaller
I would let Lewis go. After a great start he has done nothing since. I would terminate Miller's loan as soon as possible.

We need short term signings, experienced players up for a relegation battle. Get this season sorted and then DA can start moulding his own squad in the summer.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:10 pm
by glagys
Andy D wrote:
Just been brought to my attention that Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract in January.

Where was this snippet of info ??
Miller season long loan
Lewis undisclosed contract length was the only thing I heard
As far as I was told AJ and Cranston are the only ones on 2 year contracts

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:14 pm
by redrobo
mrpotatohead wrote:Where has Derek said all these things Neil?


I only post that which is factually correct. :o ;)

Don't worry MrP no apology from you is necessary for your implied accusation that I was making DA's observations up...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

;) ;)

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:20 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
glagys wrote:
Andy D wrote:
Just been brought to my attention that Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract in January.

Where was this snippet of info ??
Miller season long loan
Lewis undisclosed contract length was the only thing I heard
As far as I was told AJ and Cranston are the only ones on 2 year contracts



Is John O'Sullivan also on a 2 year contract ?

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:24 pm
by redrobo
glagys wrote:
Andy D wrote:
Just been brought to my attention that Lewis Allesandra and Sean Miller are out of contract in January.

Where was this snippet of info ??
Miller season long loan
Lewis undisclosed contract length was the only thing I heard
As far as I was told AJ and Cranston are the only ones on 2 year contracts


As I understand it Lewis signed on a short term contract which finishes in January.

2 year deals given to Halstead, Wildig and a new 30months to Sam Lavelle.

Also 2 year deals I think to Stockton, Old, Tutte and O'Sullivan but not sure.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:41 pm
by HALMA 1983
Be sure of one thing, Derek will have identified who he wants and those he doesn't,
Don't be surprised if there's a sudden influx of players from north of the border or loans from plymouth as he revisits his old stomping grounds :D

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:46 pm
by KenH
redrobo wrote:Also 2 year deals I think to Stockton, Old, Tutte and O'Sullivan but not sure.


Heaven help us then.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:50 pm
by redrobo
HALMA 1983 wrote:Be sure of one thing, Derek will have identified who he wants and those he doesn't,
Don't be surprised if there's a sudden influx of players from north of the border or loans from plymouth as he revisits his old stomping grounds :D


About time we moved away from our reliance on Liverpool based players and explored other areas for recruits.

Derek's father is a scout for his son in Scotland and is well respected North of the Border.

I personally wouldn't mind a few of my adopted kinsmen in our squad.

:) :) :)

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 4:57 pm
by HALMA 1983
redrobo wrote:
HALMA 1983 wrote:Be sure of one thing, Derek will have identified who he wants and those he doesn't,
Don't be surprised if there's a sudden influx of players from north of the border or loans from plymouth as he revisits his old stomping grounds :D


About time we moved away from our reliance on Liverpool based players and explored other areas for recruits.

Derek's father is a scout for his son in Scotland and is well respected North of the Border.

I personally wouldn't mind a few of my adopted kinsmen in our squad.

:) :) :)


A few younger versions of Gary McDonald would come in very handy ;)

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:02 pm
by Gone_Shrimping
KenH wrote:
redrobo wrote:Also 2 year deals I think to Stockton, Old, Tutte and O'Sullivan but not sure.


Heaven help us then.


I thought Stockton only signed a 1 year contract. Old and Tutte are both in the 2nd year of their 2 year contracts. I think O'Sullivan is on a 2 year contract.

One of the Anoraks ,maybe Marky No.1 will know the contract situation.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 5:11 pm
by mrpotatohead
Most of the players are out of contract next summer...summer doesnt start in january and this squad needs a massive overhaul.

Re: In/outs Contracts and transfer window

PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 6:30 pm
by BerlinWaller
O'Sullivan is on a 2 year deal and Buxton is on a 1 year deal. Miller is on a season long loan. Luke Conlan signed a 2 year deal in the summer. Jordan and A-Jay are on 2 year deals.