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We are overdue some luck
Posted:
Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:14 pm
by Ned
I think Sammy’s comments in the Visitor are spot on about Stanley and McLachlan being big players for us in recent weeks. Their long term injuries could not have come at worst time and Sammy realises like most people that the shortage of quality replacements in key areas is a major concern. Just as it looked like the team was stabilising its position we lost Rene Howe and you don’t have to be an experienced manager to realise that Blinkhorn, Curtis or any of the strikers don’t have what it takes in this league. Of equal concern is the engine room midfield where our only replacement for the missing duo is Hunter. Nice lad who was described `respectfully` on Tuesday evening by a club official as a player who is popular because he puts in 100% effort but lacks the necessary quality for league 2 football and is typical of a player who would stand out in a Sunday league.
Let us hope Sammy can find a way around this embargo and get some loan players in as we don’t want to get sucked into the Chester syndrome. All things considered Saturday’s match now takes on more significance as I am sure the Welshmen who on Monday were apprehensive will now see this as an opportunity to halt their slide.
Re: We are overdue some luck
Posted:
Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:22 pm
by Christies Child
Re: We are overdue some luck
Posted:
Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:26 pm
by wonder shrimp
our injury problems are bad, but chester are a club in crisis!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chester/7881920.stmAdded to that, cash-strapped City are still under a transfer embargo imposed by the Football League last summer.
And, following the deadline day departures of Mark Hughes, Eddie Johnson, Paul Butler and Tony Dinning, as well as loaned-out duo Paul McManus and Andy Mitchell, manager Mark Wright now has the smallest playing squad in the League.
Wright was forced to raid the youth team and had five teenagers on the bench for Saturday's 3-0 defeat at Brentford, a game for which he also had to select three half-fit players.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:36 pm
by Gnasher
Nice lad who was described `respectfully` on Tuesday evening by a club official as a player who is popular because he puts in 100% effort but lacks the necessary quality for league 2 football and is typical of a player who would stand out in a Sunday league
That's nasty, if you're going to repeat something like that you could at least have the balls to name the club official so it can be "discussed".
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 5:39 pm
by Christies Child
Gnasher wrote:Nice lad who was described `respectfully` on Tuesday evening by a club official as a player who is popular because he puts in 100% effort but lacks the necessary quality for league 2 football and is typical of a player who would stand out in a Sunday league
That's nasty, if you're going to repeat something like that you could at least have the balls to name the club official so it can be "discussed".
Exactly....
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:02 pm
by Dazzer
If Sammy felt Hunter was'nt upto League 2 standard, he would'nt still be at the club.
So the comment is tosh, wherever it originated from.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:24 pm
by George Dawes
Dazzer wrote:If Sammy felt Hunter was'nt upto League 2 standard, he would'nt still be at the club.
So the comment is tosh, wherever it originated from.
McCann & Carr might have been on a lot more money than Hunter as we are tyring to tighten our strings
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:27 pm
by ezz
Or at least have the balls to say it yourself instead of saying it was from a club official.
Re: We are overdue some luck
Posted:
Wed Feb 11, 2009 6:30 pm
by Bare bum
I think Sammy’s comments in the Visitor are spot on about Stanley and McLachlan being big players for us in recent weeks. Their long term injuries could not have come at worst time and Sammy realises like most people that the shortage of quality replacements in key areas is a major concern. Just as it looked like the team was stabilising its position we lost Rene Howe and you don’t have to be an experienced manager to realise that Blinkhorn, Curtis or any of the strikers don’t have what it takes in this league. Of equal concern is the engine room midfield where our only replacement for the missing duo is Hunter. Nice lad who was described `respectfully` on Tuesday evening by a club official as a player who is popular because he puts in 100% effort but lacks the necessary quality for league 2 football and is typical of a player who would stand out in a Sunday league.
Let us hope Sammy can find a way around this embargo and get some loan players in as we don’t want to get sucked into the Chester syndrome. All things considered Saturday’s match now takes on more significance as I am sure the Welshmen who on Monday were apprehensive will now see this as an opportunity to halt their slide.
Ned, do you talk like that in real life?
Are you saying that our football team has 2 or 3 of its best players injured, the replacements might not do as well and
you think as a result they might "get sucked into the Chester syndrome". In addition
you think Curtis, Blinkhorn, Taylor, Twiss, O'Carroll and, particularly, Hunter are crap.
What is the Chester syndrome by the way? Is that the one where a crook of a chairman grinds the club into the ground over 5 years? How is our injury list going to cause that, pray tell?
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 7:24 pm
by Abbo
I cant understand why people rise to what Simply Ned ever posts on this site because its obvious he is just a shit stirrer trying to wind people up by posting remarksthat intend to annoy and irritate.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:17 pm
by Gnasher
Quoting a club official with such a remark is OTT, wind up merchant or not.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:29 pm
by james456
Abbo wrote:I cant understand why people rise to what Simply Ned ever posts on this site because its obvious he is just a shit stirrer trying to wind people up by posting remarksthat intend to annoy and irritate.
He does offer a (arguably) valid opinion. Either that or he's a really really good troll/WUM.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:31 pm
by Abbo
Its quite obvious really, he's talking out of his arse and he should be treated with the contempt he deserves.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:43 pm
by PUNKISDEAD
I used to think negative ned was a bit of a wind up merchant who supported some other team and just came on here to stir it when things had not gone morecambes way.
I now know who it is,, and nasty the comments about GH plus the cowardly way they are veiled behind a fictional club official just about sums the person up, crawl back under your stone ned.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:48 am
by SkinnyShrimp
He may be a wind up merchant who enjoys pushing the buttons of some of the more guilable punters on SV but he also normally has a valid point or two and on this he is right - without Howe we are woefully light upfront and taking aside (a fit) twiss Ned is spot on - NONE - YES NONE of our options are good enough up front in this division and if we get higher the 14th this season i will gladly eat my words but I think not!
IMHO we have recently turned a corner and at times look more than capable of holding our own in this league but like many clubs we are inconsistent - without Rene upfront and our best 11 all fit and on form I can't see a platform we can can build off to threaten other teams and if we think Wayne & Matty are going to give us that then bring on the Blue Square!
I'm not a doom merchant but face facts - next season will be our big test as with all things being equal we need Sammy to unearth talent or make some shrewd loan signings or it promises to be a rollacoaster!
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:37 am
by ezz
Same thing was said about this season......the next season is always the hardest!!!
I'm going to guess that infact next season will be really easy and we'll piss this tinpot league. We'll coast to a 12 point winning gap easy as pie
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:37 am
by Keith
SkinnyShrimp wrote:...or it promises to be a rollacoaster!
Isn't it always, when you're a Morecambe fan. Shrimper must have RSI from typing that out over the years. I would like to see O'Carroll given a decent run out for a few weeks now, with Twissy dropping back in to midfield once Howe is fit again. For me, our style has changed since the start of the season and I'd like to see if O'Carroll can produce the goods.
And until Howe returns, give Hunter a chance to show whether he is or isn't up to it.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 11:49 am
by shrimper
Once again Ned has prompted more debate.
For my two penn'orth I'd say he makes some valid points. But most of them are so obvious I wonder 'why' they are being made (other than to prompt debate - or stir things up, which is fair enough).
Aside from the opportunity to have a snide, underhanded dig at one of our young players he says nowt we don't already know.
We know our squad lacks strength - no-one has ever denied it.
Find me one person at the club - from management, to officials, to fans - who honestly thinks this current squad is capable of taking us any further than we are now and I'll show you someone who knows little about football.
So - other than to be snide - why make the point, particularly when, weak or not, our squad has thus far been good enough to outplay a few very much more established Football League sides in recent weeks?
The club (based on attendances, size of town and history in football) is punching way above its weight.
The management and players are working hard for OUR club and delivering results and performances (with a few exceptions) well above what most people would expect.
We all know that the next couple of seasons will show whether we have the ability as a club to move forward.
This close season will be crucial. We won't have the buffer of the 'deducted points' clubs beneath us and will have to bring in new players to ensure our safety and help us take advantage of our new stadium's earning potential in years to come.
That's a matter for the board to sort out with the League to make sure we can 'include' money that is ours to spend in our player budget.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 12:52 pm
by Freez
The wage cap is a good thing which we must all abide by, perhaps Daggers don't have a squad littered with long and mid-term injury "victims".
There is a credit crunch on you know, a recession, 2 million unemployed, and we have some right pansies phoning in sick.
Think Michael Howard, should we stop paying him? Bloody right, hasn't done a stroke in months.
Andy Parrish, not his fault, but stop his money anyway, that'll learn em..
Stanners n Frase, I bet they got injured deliberately, pair of shirkers, get them signing on.
Right idea with Wayun, get him off the pay roll if he aint fit.
Rene Howe, looks like he is on his way back as I speak, he's bombing around like a gazelle on the plastic at Heysham, WHY? Stopped his money I'll wager.
Henry McStay, can't afford twenty a day on sick money, quite rightly!
In my day, Bert Trautman played with a broken neck while sporting a fishing sweater and diving boots.
Bloody big girls the lot of 'em!
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:06 pm
by wijit
Gnasher wrote:Nice lad who was described `respectfully` on Tuesday evening by a club official as a player who is popular because he puts in 100% effort but lacks the necessary quality for league 2 football and is typical of a player who would stand out in a Sunday league
That's nasty, if you're going to repeat something like that you could at least have the balls to name the club official so it can be "discussed".
Only my humble opinion, but I'd say Ned is just a spineless pillock who lacks the courage of his convictions.
Re: We are overdue some luck
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Thu Feb 12, 2009 1:16 pm
by CASS
wijit wrote:Gnasher wrote:Nice lad who was described `respectfully` on Tuesday evening by a club official as a player who is popular because he puts in 100% effort but lacks the necessary quality for league 2 football and is typical of a player who would stand out in a Sunday league
That's nasty, if you're going to repeat something like that you could at least have the balls to name the club official so it can be "discussed".
Only my humble opinion, but I'd say Ned is just a spineless pillock who lacks the courage of his convictions.
Would that be the same as a "Tosser"