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Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:04 amby Bara brith
Tomorrow’s game is also the first for which midfielder Yann Songo’o is available after his FA charge for allegedly directing a homophobic insult to a Tranmere player last month.
Songo’o picked up a two-match ban for his red card in that game and, when asked if he was under consideration for a return, Adams said: “All I would say is that he’s available for Saturday.”
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Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:57 amby tim-sanchez
I'd be extremely disappointed if the club decided to play him whilst he's under investigation for homophobia. I think the club have handled this really poorly, they were apparently waiting for the referee's report and clearly have that now since he's been charged, but still it's silence from the club.
And no, I'm not presuming his guilt, based on the facts we know he has been charged by the FA for a potential serious offence and it seems very unusual for the club to just continue as if nothing's happened.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 12:49 pmby Zippy
D.A is the Manager ' best position to act in best interests of the club and the Player. Which to be frank , is all that really matters at kick off time.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:09 pmby Gone_Shrimping
I want the best possible team on the field for Saturday and IMHO that would include Songo'o.
What he says to the FA in reply to the charge will be dealt with in due course.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:18 pmby cragbankshrimp
Looking at the last two games it's a no brainer that he's selected. Yes, he shouldn't have made the comment, but let's put things in perspective. You can break an opponents leg and only receive a three match ban.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:23 pmby Sakhalin Shrimp
Agreed, he’s only been given a 2 match ban which he’s served, any possible future ban can be dealt with If there is one.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 1:38 pmby black morse
cragbankshrimp wrote:Looking at the last two games it's a no brainer that he's selected. Yes, he shouldn't have made the comment, but let's put things in perspective. You can break an opponents leg and only receive a three match ban.
Fully agree with this.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:04 pmby tim-sanchez
cragbankshrimp wrote:Looking at the last two games it's a no brainer that he's selected. Yes, he shouldn't have made the comment, but let's put things in perspective. You can break an opponents leg and only receive a three match ban.
The difference is that a tackle is normally part of the game, and accidental. In the rare situations a player has done something extreme and out of the norm, like Ben Thatcher's elbow or Suarez's bite, the ban has been considerably extended.
Homophobia is absolutely not part of the game, there was no reason for him to make the comment he did, and we should be doing everything we can to eradicate it from the game. I don't think it can be compared with a mis-timed tackle, which is usually unfortunate rather than malicious. A homophobic slur isn't accidental (unless he was discussing his dinner, which I guess we'll find out when the FA release more details).
That's the perspective/context I see it with.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:19 pmby al1
Innocent till proven guilty!
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:39 pmby Sakhalin Shrimp
tim-sanchez wrote:don't think it can be compared with a mis-timed tackle, which is usually unfortunate rather than malicious.
Roy Kean on Alfe Ing Haarland would be one, although I think his thuggish timing was perfect, just saying like.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 2:52 pmby tim-sanchez
Sakhalin Shrimp wrote:tim-sanchez wrote:don't think it can be compared with a mis-timed tackle, which is usually unfortunate rather than malicious.
Roy Kean on Alfe Ing Haarland would be one, although I think his thuggish timing was perfect, just saying like.
And that fits the examples I gave of a rare situation that is out of the norm. Keane was given a record fine and a ban after his autobiography came out for the incident.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:05 pmby Sakhalin Shrimp
tim-sanchez wrote:Sakhalin Shrimp wrote:tim-sanchez wrote:don't think it can be compared with a mis-timed tackle, which is usually unfortunate rather than malicious.
Roy Kean on Alfe Ing Haarland would be one, although I think his thuggish timing was perfect, just saying like.
And that fits the examples I gave of a rare situation that is out of the norm. Keane was given a record fine and a ban after his autobiography came out for the incident.
He only got a 3 match ban at the time for ending Haarland’s career though so yes, a bit of perspective required. If Songo’o is found to be guilty of the alleged offence then further punishment is right but, although not good or nice, it’s not career ending for the recipient.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:13 pmby Shrimp Girl
Match now postponed tomorrow so he definitely won't be playing
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:22 pmby Ego Tripping
He only got a 3 match ban at the time for ending Haarland’s career though so yes, a bit of perspective required. If Songo’o is found to be guilty of the alleged offence then further punishment is right but, although not good or nice, it’s not career ending for the recipient.
Common misconception that Keane ended his career. However it’s total nonsense as it was the other knee to that one that Keane injured that forced him to retire
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Fri Feb 12, 2021 5:38 pmby Sakhalin Shrimp
Ego Tripping wrote:He only got a 3 match ban at the time for ending Haarland’s career though so yes, a bit of perspective required. If Songo’o is found to be guilty of the alleged offence then further punishment is right but, although not good or nice, it’s not career ending for the recipient.
Common misconception that Keane ended his career. However it’s total nonsense as it was the other knee to that one that Keane injured that forced him to retire
He never played another full game after that “tackle” and says he still has pain in the knee.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 9:57 amby jbc.shrimp
GET HIM AVAILABLE FOR PLAY AT THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:34 pmby redrobo
tim-sanchez wrote:cragbankshrimp wrote:Looking at the last two games it's a no brainer that he's selected. Yes, he shouldn't have made the comment, but let's put things in perspective. You can break an opponents leg and only receive a three match ban.
The difference is that a tackle is normally part of the game, and accidental. In the rare situations a player has done something extreme and out of the norm, like Ben Thatcher's elbow or Suarez's bite, the ban has been considerably extended.
Homophobia is absolutely not part of the game,
there was no reason for him to make the comment he did, and we should be doing everything we can to eradicate it from the game. I don't think it can be compared with a mis-timed tackle, which is usually unfortunate rather than malicious. A homophobic slur isn't accidental (unless he was discussing his dinner, which I guess we'll find out when the FA release more details).
That's the perspective/context I see it with.
Self appointed judge and jury.
It's not proven so to suggest otherwise is wrong....
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:40 pmby tim-sanchez
redrobo wrote:tim-sanchez wrote:cragbankshrimp wrote:Looking at the last two games it's a no brainer that he's selected. Yes, he shouldn't have made the comment, but let's put things in perspective. You can break an opponents leg and only receive a three match ban.
The difference is that a tackle is normally part of the game, and accidental. In the rare situations a player has done something extreme and out of the norm, like Ben Thatcher's elbow or Suarez's bite, the ban has been considerably extended.
Homophobia is absolutely not part of the game,
there was no reason for him to make the comment he did, and we should be doing everything we can to eradicate it from the game. I don't think it can be compared with a mis-timed tackle, which is usually unfortunate rather than malicious. A homophobic slur isn't accidental (unless he was discussing his dinner, which I guess we'll find out when the FA release more details).
That's the perspective/context I see it with.
Self appointed judge and jury.
It's not proven so to suggest otherwise is wrong....
I notice you highlight my comment but not the part previously where somebody else also said "he shouldn't have made the comment". You also seem to ignore the rest of my comment, where I do accept there was other possible reasons for him making the comment, and we will find out. I do find it ironic that you're suggesting we could be taking his words out of context, whilst you repeatedly take my words out of context.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:52 pmby redrobo
You repeatably accuse him with little factual evidence to prove what was actually said. The video clip is far from conclusive but I accept that we obviously differ on the alleged incident.
As for our club making no comment, until they are given any factual evidence of what was alleged the club in my opinion are quite right to remain silent on this issue. And as for the lack of the referees report (to date) I am surprised that such an alleged incident hasn't been one assumes reported by the referee although I could be wrong in that assessment.
Time to move on and welcome him back to first team action asap.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:56 pmby New_Ground_Watcher
Is the player who the alleged abuse was aimed at actually a homosexual?
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:12 pmby morecambegeek
New_Ground_Watcher wrote:Is the player who the alleged abuse was aimed at actually a homosexual?
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 3:49 pmby RapidShrimp
Some of the posts in this thread are very concerning
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 4:04 pmby redrobo
RapidShrimp wrote:Some of the posts in this thread are very concerning
SVs is a broad church.....that is what is so good about it.
Differing opinions make for a greater depth of topics and viewpoints (and the odd disagreement...
)
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 5:08 pmby New_Ground_Watcher
morecambegeek wrote:New_Ground_Watcher wrote:Is the player who the alleged abuse was aimed at actually a homosexual?
I'm asking because if he is, and Songo'o knows he is Songo'o deserves the book throwing at him. If he isn't and Songo'o knows he isn't then maybe the abuse was just the first insult that came into his head.
I was offended by your reply by the way morecambegeek! It was a relevant question.
Re: Songo’o Available For Scunthorpe Game
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Sat Feb 13, 2021 6:03 pmby morecambegeek
If you're offended by that, imagine if you were called a faggot.