marky No.1 wrote:4.4.3 could well help
BerlinWaller wrote:marky No.1 wrote:4.4.3 could well help
Haha doubt it!
rubbish!Little Shrimp wrote:Well, for starters, we were playing 4-2-3-1 tonight.
But regardless, formation isn't the issue here. Confidence, aggression, concentration etc - a lot of mental factors in my eyes.
Generally, formations aren't inherently attacking or defensive. It's about how you apply yourself in them and the movements/shapes you take up in different scenarios. Eg, last season we were playing 4-3-3 but were incredible defensive at times.
Andy D wrote:rubbish!Little Shrimp wrote:Well, for starters, we were playing 4-2-3-1 tonight.
But regardless, formation isn't the issue here. Confidence, aggression, concentration etc - a lot of mental factors in my eyes.
Generally, formations aren't inherently attacking or defensive. It's about how you apply yourself in them and the movements/shapes you take up in different scenarios. Eg, last season we were playing 4-3-3 but were incredible defensive at times.
watching a different game to me, we only had one stopper(Toums) in the middle of a three not two stoppers in a two like your suggesting.
Ayunga was defiantly a right wing forward.
BerlinWaller wrote:Not having a defensive mid is ruining the whole system. Having somebody in that role between the defence and midfield stops the midfield dropping too deep which is happening too often. When the midfield sinks in to defence, the gap between Cole and the midfield becomes too big which then isolates him. We are crying out for that anchor to control the space and then the pitch. Finding a League 1 standard, ready made midfield general is going to be tricky. Signing potentially good footballers won't cut it in January.
redrobo wrote:The buck stops at the managers door and unless he changes tactics then all our hard work to get to EFL1 will have been wasted...
...Things have to improve drastically before the middle of December for me as we can't go into the transfer window expecting changes to see an improvement judging by the lack of quality in current squad.
redrobo wrote:By the way we can still have friendly banter between ourselves despite obvious differences....
redrobo wrote:The quality of some of SR's signings fall well short of EFL1 standard as others have pointed out. And despite their obvious lack of quality some of these are on 2 year contracts that we are stuck with.
marky No.1 wrote:Also hope the guaranteed tv clash at Buxton doesnt embarass us
marky No.1 wrote:I just wonder what has happened since August and September when, for me, it looked like we had got players of L1 standard, they were playing as a unit, were exciting to watch and they put effort in win or lose... we walked away generally happy.
Then October arrived, we were 3.0 up at Wycombe and turning it on in that first half, then something went wrong and we have pretty much lost the plot since.
exactly this!Keith wrote:marky No.1 wrote:marky No.1 wrote:I just wonder what has happened since August and September when, for me, it looked like we had got players of L1 standard, they were playing as a unit, were exciting to watch and they put effort in win or lose... we walked away generally happy.
Then October arrived, we were 3.0 up at Wycombe and turning it on in that first half, then something went wrong and we have pretty much lost the plot since.
It really is like a switch was thrown and the lights went out. Prior to that, I genuinely thought a play-off place wasn't beyond us. Perhaps we've simply been found out? Keep Cole quiet and no-one else will score? When he is so closely marked, it should leave space elsewhere, but we can't find that space at the moment. And we still can't defend set plays.
BerlinWaller wrote:When the midfield sinks in to defence, the gap between Cole and the midfield becomes too big which then isolates him.
marky No.1 wrote:I just wonder what has happened since August and September when, for me, it looked like we had got players of L1 standard, they were playing as a unit, were exciting to watch and they put effort in win or lose... we walked away generally happy.
Andy D wrote:exactly this!
its like the left and right wing forwards we have in the front 3 aren't good enough in supporting Cole Stockton and why its the formation and system.
against Newport in the 2nd half we went to a 4-4-2 diamond shape midfield with just the really good fullbacks we are blessed with providing the width what suited us.
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