Ryan Williams

[Kendalshrimp]

Has signed for Brentford besides being a good set piece taker I haven't really seen anything from him to convince me he can play at league 2 level never mind championship

[shrimpnsave]

[marky No.1]

Double

So a player who couldn't hold a regular place in a mid table League 2 side can play in a play off Championship side and we get nothing

"Ryan is a player who we feel has a lot of unreleased potential and we can really help develop him,"

Good luck Ryan

[Kendalshrimp]

Best of luck to him but who ever handed that contract out obviously hasn't done their home work on Ryan. Can't fault him for his effort but never a championship player even if it is as a squad player !

[George Dawes]

not that surprised, i'm just really pleased for him, he always looked to play neat football.

if their management team can work on his confidence, he could raise a few eyebrows.

[Lloydie]

Never saw that one coming! good luck to the lad

[outsider]

He should get more time on the ball, which will suit him. Just hope no-one shouts too loudly from the bigger crowds though.

[John L]

He should get more time on the ball, which will suit him. Just hope no-one shouts too loudly from the bigger crowds though.

Beware the Griffin Wilson...

[Keith]

Good luck to the lad. Shame he turned 24 a few months ago! More time on the ball in a less physical league, hopefully he'll develop well.

[KenH]

Not surprised at all. A lot of potential but we couldn't bring him on. He just didn't fit in with our style of play, the team we had and the opponents that he was chosen to play against. Can't fault his work-rate, he was never lazy, which is something you can't say of some of our other players last season! He obviously fell out of favour and then his injury finished him off for us. I think he'll do well at a higher level where skills are valued more than physical strength. Good luck to the lad!

[Heysham_Shrimp]

It will be interesting to see how he does at Brentford.

If they are awarded free kicks around the box then he really could make a name for himself.

Not just a free kick specialist though , I remember a really good winning goal at Dagenham in the box and a fantastic goal from 35 yards against Torquay at the Globe.

He was so keen to sign for us that he stayed here until we could offer him a deal and that speaks volumes for his attitude. I hope he does really well.

[Posh]

Probably Ryan's best and worst attribute was his agent.

Understand his agent had demanded £2,000+ a week on the basis of the income from the Wolves free kick alone. He does a lot to put videos out there and get him seen by clubs. Obviously paid dividends handsomely this time.

Beyond that I agree with Heysham Shrimp largely. Clearly is a decent player but never quite managed to look more than a boy playing a man's game.

[underbank]

Not just a free kick specialist though , I remember a really good winning goal at Dagenham in the box and a fantastic goal from 35 yards against Torquay at the Globe.

And his last game with us (home against Cambridge) was probably one of his best. He was playing the game of his life, the best I've seen him, but got absolutely no support from the other midfielders so he had to take the ball forward himself which he did remarkably well, with a few very long runs which panicked their defense a few times. He also very nearly scored a cracking goal from a corner where he did a lovely flip bang on target which showed his quick reaction time, intelligence and accuracy. There was incredulity from everyone around us when he got taken off at 60 minutes along with Goodall (rightly as he was absent), and replaced with Mullin and Flemmo who basically had no impact at all. I'd far rather we'd kept Ryan and let Flemmo go, but we all see different things don't we?

[Seasider9601]

Understand his agent had demanded £2,000+ a week on the basis of the income from the Wolves free kick alone. He does a lot to put videos out there and get him seen by clubs. Obviously paid dividends handsomely this time.

I would imagine he has also used the video of his free kick v Preston North End pre-season last season.

What a great strike THAT was as well.

[halfwayprawn]

Maybe someone from Brentford saw Ryan running the show at Bury in the jpt he was brilliant that night where he had the freedom of playing all across the midfield. Ryan will also get a lot more support from players who will be willing to back him up and instead of ignoring him.Good luck to the lad.

[SupermarketShrimp]

I was impressed every time I saw him.

Once he gets a bit more "man strength" and fills out, he'll be up there with Perks. Great player here at the wrong time.

Regards his agent, if he's got him £2k a week, fair play to him.

[marky No.1]

Regards his agent, if he's got him £2k a week, fair play to him.

Would be hoping for more than that I would have thought... Brentford 1st team players were getting between £3000 and £6000 a week in the Championship..

Quite an interesting read :

"I hope you know that I have always tried to use this column to update you on various aspects of the football department and to hopefully give some clarity to certain areas which in the past have gone without explanation.
I think now, having again been questioned by two or three concerned fans, it is a good time to give a little more detail about the financial facts of signing a player albeit permanently or on loan.
When a club signs a player for £2,000 per week, it is not just £104,000 allocated out of the playing budget.
The club concerned then has to allocate National Insurance taking the budgeted expense to nearer £120,000.
On most occasions the player will request sign on fees, appearance bonuses, loyalty payments, etc. all to be built into the contract and all such amounts of course have to be acknowledged on the playing budget.
In addition, the player is entitled to relocation payments for moving house, renting an apartment etc., all costs that again impact the overall figure.
The agent involved will then demand his agreed percentage of the guaranteed sums and you begin to realise that a standard players contract accounts for considerably more than the £104,000 originally suggested.
If a club takes a loan player, again there are a variety of possibilities with regards to the fees involved.
Some clubs, especially Premier League, will expect full payment of wages below an agreed figure, perhaps £2,000 per week.
If a senior player is on a higher basic wage, let’s say £6,000 per week, they may expect 50 per cent of the wage to be paid.
Again, you then add on relocation payments, appearance bonuses, etc. and you begin to see the true cost of bringing any player to Brentford Football Club.
I fully appreciate that any football supporter will rightly air their views about certain player targets, the game is all about opinions and that is why we love it so much.
However, all I would ask is that they think about all of the financial implications and realise that despite the fact we would take great delight in welcoming certain individuals to the Club, the budgets are in place for the long term health and welfare of Brentford and it is absolutely right that we adhere to them."

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[Kendalshrimp]

He'll be on loan at Stanley or Wrexham by November

[Bees Fan]

Hi All

Brentford fan here, just saw the news that we signed Ryan Williams and thought i would come on here to see what you guys thought of him in his time there.
I noticed that a lot of supporters were suprised by this signing, please allow me to give you a little bit of info on our club as it is run at the moment.

I'm not sure if you have read or heard but Brentford have been in the media recently regarding the new direction the club has gone in with regards to finding and signing new players. Our owner's business background is that of sports statistics and analytics, and as such his company produces reports for teams (especially in America where everything is so statistic based) regarding everything that a player does whilst performing for their team (i.e. pass % ratio, distance ran, minutes per goal, home lifestyle choices the list is pretty endless). These reports a very detailed and not only are used for the purposes of showing wether a player is worth signing but also to help bring players on in their game and used as a coaching tool.
That said our owner (approx 18 months ago) purchased another football team in Denmark called FC Midtjylland. He imposed his "moneyball" ideas (as in the film) as this is how the media are referring to his way of working on FC Midtjylland, and last season for the first time ever won the Danish superleage (a league which has for years been dominated by FC Copenhagen) and as such ha;-s qualified for the chanmpions league next season.

With that said and moving back on topic of the signing of Ryan Williams, this signing would have been based on the methods mentioned previously using our owners vast reasource of sports statistics and scientific based research (strange sounding i know) as our owner wants Brentford to move to the same very successful system he put in place at FC Midtjylland last season. As such a lot of signings being made by Brentford will be of lesser known players (no disrescpect to Ryan Williams) who have proven scientific and statistical data to back up the signing and not signed purely on scouting reports where a player may have had a few good games then fails to perform when signed (we have had a lot of those in our past).

Sorry to make this post so long but thought it would be a chance to explain "our" side of the transfer as a lot of supporters here seem very suprised by this signing, only time will tell i guess.

Best of luck for next season and every success even though if my memory serves Michael Twiss always seemed to have a blinder and score against us when playing you guys in the past

[Kendalshrimp]

Hi All

Brentford fan here, just saw the news that we signed Ryan Williams and thought i would come on here to see what you guys thought of him in his time there.
I noticed that a lot of supporters were suprised by this signing, please allow me to give you a little bit of info on our club as it is run at the moment.

I'm not sure if you have read or heard but Brentford have been in the media recently regarding the new direction the club has gone in with regards to finding and signing new players. Our owner's business background is that of sports statistics and analytics, and as such his company produces reports for teams (especially in America where everything is so statistic based) regarding everything that a player does whilst performing for their team (i.e. pass % ratio, distance ran, minutes per goal, home lifestyle choices the list is pretty endless). These reports a very detailed and not only are used for the purposes of showing wether a player is worth signing but also to help bring players on in their game and used as a coaching tool.
That said our owner (approx 18 months ago) purchased another football team in Denmark called FC Midtjylland. He imposed his "moneyball" ideas (as in the film) as this is how the media are referring to his way of working on FC Midtjylland, and last season for the first time ever won the Danish superleage (a league which has for years been dominated by FC Copenhagen) and as such ha;-s qualified for the chanmpions league next season.

With that said and moving back on topic of the signing of Ryan Williams, this signing would have been based on the methods mentioned previously using our owners vast reasource of sports statistics and scientific based research (strange sounding i know) as our owner wants Brentford to move to the same very successful system he put in place at FC Midtjylland last season. As such a lot of signings being made by Brentford will be of lesser known players (no disrescpect to Ryan Williams) who have proven scientific and statistical data to back up the signing and not signed purely on scouting reports where a player may have had a few good games then fails to perform when signed (we have had a lot of those in our past).

Sorry to make this post so long but thought it would be a chance to explain "our" side of the transfer as a lot of supporters here seem very suprised by this signing, only time will tell i guess.

Best of luck for next season and every success even though if my memory serves Michael Twiss always seemed to have a blinder and score against us when playing you guys in the past

Best of luck to use next season, I don't think you'll see much of williams to be honest tho good set piece taker but doesn't like getting stuck in and is certainly not the type of player you want in your team when it gets physical against the likes of the Michael Browns an jay spearings of that league !

[BoroRedShrimp]

Hi All

Brentford fan here, just saw the news that we signed Ryan Williams and thought i would come on here to see what you guys thought of him in his time there.
I noticed that a lot of supporters were suprised by this signing, please allow me to give you a little bit of info on our club as it is run at the moment.

I'm not sure if you have read or heard but Brentford have been in the media recently regarding the new direction the club has gone in with regards to finding and signing new players. Our owner's business background is that of sports statistics and analytics, and as such his company produces reports for teams (especially in America where everything is so statistic based) regarding everything that a player does whilst performing for their team (i.e. pass % ratio, distance ran, minutes per goal, home lifestyle choices the list is pretty endless). These reports a very detailed and not only are used for the purposes of showing wether a player is worth signing but also to help bring players on in their game and used as a coaching tool.
That said our owner (approx 18 months ago) purchased another football team in Denmark called FC Midtjylland. He imposed his "moneyball" ideas (as in the film) as this is how the media are referring to his way of working on FC Midtjylland, and last season for the first time ever won the Danish superleage (a league which has for years been dominated by FC Copenhagen) and as such ha;-s qualified for the chanmpions league next season.

With that said and moving back on topic of the signing of Ryan Williams, this signing would have been based on the methods mentioned previously using our owners vast reasource of sports statistics and scientific based research (strange sounding i know) as our owner wants Brentford to move to the same very successful system he put in place at FC Midtjylland last season. As such a lot of signings being made by Brentford will be of lesser known players (no disrescpect to Ryan Williams) who have proven scientific and statistical data to back up the signing and not signed purely on scouting reports where a player may have had a few good games then fails to perform when signed (we have had a lot of those in our past).

Sorry to make this post so long but thought it would be a chance to explain "our" side of the transfer as a lot of supporters here seem very suprised by this signing, only time will tell i guess.

Best of luck for next season and every success even though if my memory serves Michael Twiss always seemed to have a blinder and score against us when playing you guys in the past

Best of luck to use next season, I don't think you'll see much of williams to be honest tho good set piece taker but doesn't like getting stuck in and is certainly not the type of player you want in your team when it gets physical against the likes of the Michael Browns an jay spearings of that league !

KendalShrimp why do you have to come on here with negative remarks all the time? Give the lad a chance. He scored some superb goals for us in the past and went off the boil for one reason or another. He may turn out to be a gem who knows until he is given the opportunity. I hope it does work out for him. His confidence did go due to some stick when on the pitch however he deserves credit for the free kicks he scored at Bury & Wolves.

Good Luck to Brentford, hope you make it to the premiership but I doubt it with the owners deciding enough is enough with Warburton. Think he deserved to stay on with what he did in a short space of time at the club. Great manager & reminds me a lot of Jimbo.

[black morse]

Hi All

Brentford fan here, just saw the news that we signed Ryan Williams and thought i would come on here to see what you guys thought of him in his time there.
I noticed that a lot of supporters were suprised by this signing, please allow me to give you a little bit of info on our club as it is run at the moment.

I'm not sure if you have read or heard but Brentford have been in the media recently regarding the new direction the club has gone in with regards to finding and signing new players. Our owner's business background is that of sports statistics and analytics, and as such his company produces reports for teams (especially in America where everything is so statistic based) regarding everything that a player does whilst performing for their team (i.e. pass % ratio, distance ran, minutes per goal, home lifestyle choices the list is pretty endless). These reports a very detailed and not only are used for the purposes of showing wether a player is worth signing but also to help bring players on in their game and used as a coaching tool.
That said our owner (approx 18 months ago) purchased another football team in Denmark called FC Midtjylland. He imposed his "moneyball" ideas (as in the film) as this is how the media are referring to his way of working on FC Midtjylland, and last season for the first time ever won the Danish superleage (a league which has for years been dominated by FC Copenhagen) and as such ha;-s qualified for the chanmpions league next season.

With that said and moving back on topic of the signing of Ryan Williams, this signing would have been based on the methods mentioned previously using our owners vast reasource of sports statistics and scientific based research (strange sounding i know) as our owner wants Brentford to move to the same very successful system he put in place at FC Midtjylland last season. As such a lot of signings being made by Brentford will be of lesser known players (no disrescpect to Ryan Williams) who have proven scientific and statistical data to back up the signing and not signed purely on scouting reports where a player may have had a few good games then fails to perform when signed (we have had a lot of those in our past).

Sorry to make this post so long but thought it would be a chance to explain "our" side of the transfer as a lot of supporters here seem very suprised by this signing, only time will tell i guess.

Best of luck for next season and every success even though if my memory serves Michael Twiss always seemed to have a blinder and score against us when playing you guys in the past

Best of luck to use next season, I don't think you'll see much of williams to be honest tho good set piece taker but doesn't like getting stuck in and is certainly not the type of player you want in your team when it gets physical against the likes of the Michael Browns an jay spearings of that league ![/quote]

I've a feeling you may have to eat those words Kendalshrimp. Ryan has still got potential in the right team and Brentford may be the team.

[Lloydie]

Well this year's released players are faring better than last year's. Are any of them playing above conference north?

[Keith]

Hi All

Brentford fan here, just saw the news that we signed Ryan Williams and thought i would come on here to see what you guys thought of him in his time there.
I noticed that a lot of supporters were suprised by this signing, please allow me to give you a little bit of info on our club as it is run at the moment.

I'm not sure if you have read or heard but Brentford have been in the media recently regarding the new direction the club has gone in with regards to finding and signing new players. Our owner's business background is that of sports statistics and analytics, and as such his company produces reports for teams (especially in America where everything is so statistic based) regarding everything that a player does whilst performing for their team (i.e. pass % ratio, distance ran, minutes per goal, home lifestyle choices the list is pretty endless). These reports a very detailed and not only are used for the purposes of showing wether a player is worth signing but also to help bring players on in their game and used as a coaching tool.
That said our owner (approx 18 months ago) purchased another football team in Denmark called FC Midtjylland. He imposed his "moneyball" ideas (as in the film) as this is how the media are referring to his way of working on FC Midtjylland, and last season for the first time ever won the Danish superleage (a league which has for years been dominated by FC Copenhagen) and as such ha;-s qualified for the chanmpions league next season.

With that said and moving back on topic of the signing of Ryan Williams, this signing would have been based on the methods mentioned previously using our owners vast reasource of sports statistics and scientific based research (strange sounding i know) as our owner wants Brentford to move to the same very successful system he put in place at FC Midtjylland last season. As such a lot of signings being made by Brentford will be of lesser known players (no disrescpect to Ryan Williams) who have proven scientific and statistical data to back up the signing and not signed purely on scouting reports where a player may have had a few good games then fails to perform when signed (we have had a lot of those in our past).

Sorry to make this post so long but thought it would be a chance to explain "our" side of the transfer as a lot of supporters here seem very suprised by this signing, only time will tell i guess.

Best of luck for next season and every success even though if my memory serves Michael Twiss always seemed to have a blinder and score against us when playing you guys in the past

Thanks for that, it is interesting and puts a different slant on things. I hope Ryan does well, he appeared to be a decent lad and in a different team, he could well flourish. I think he was one that everyone hoped would do better but no one was particularly sad to see him go. If he does develop positively with you lot, we may need to look closer at how you use the stats!