OT Calais migrants to be given heated tents

[SolentShrimp]

Not too sure what all that's about. Four years out of thirty three, albeit a very enjoyable 4 years.
If Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS, then that could and probably does include the people traffickers.
If so, it could be, and probably is, part of the 'master plan'.
Saturate Europe with migrants.
Hit them hard, be relentless.
Great idea isn'it?!
The EU is full of clueless unelected left wing idiots.
What could be easier?

What's your solution Keith?
And how do you see Europe in 5 years time?
And in 2040?

[Keith]

If Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS, then that could and probably does include the people traffickers.
If so, it could be, and probably is, part of the 'master plan'.
Saturate Europe with migrants.
Hit them hard, be relentless.
Great idea isn'it?!
The EU is full of clueless unelected left wing idiots.
What could be easier?

What's your solution Keith?
And how do you see Europe in 5 years time?
And in 2040?

Doubt if that is the plan. If they want ISIS related terrorists in Europe, they will fund them with a false passport or even 'clean' fundamentalists and fly them here Business Class. They've got plenty of cash, why worry about the discomfort & danger of a rubber dingy? The Saudi's don't want a strong Iran. They don't want a Syria ruled by al-Assad. They do want a caliphate spreading through the Middle East & North Africa. Destabilising Libya et-al makes it easier for them. The House of Saud will keep a tight rein on ISIS/Da'ish. I'd guess they will want a caliphate to stop short of Spain, so not the full 'historical' caliphate. Turkey will be the interesting one. That will have a lot to do with the Kurds.

Five years? Twenty-five years? I don't know, depends upon governments interventions.

I know that the last thing "we" want is peace in Syria (because 'we' don't want either side to win).
We don't want peace in Iraq but we probably don't want it to get worse ('cause they've got oil and we can access it).

We've re-introduced tribal ruling in Afghanistan with legitimised bandits (government officials stealing land etc). Afghanistan turning out as a bit of a disaster? After the Russians left with their tails between their legs, who'd have thought we'd have any problems? Expect Taliban control to begin to return in earnest.

If we don't get our collective act together, Lebanon will fall apart. As a percentage of population, it would be the equivalent of the UK having 20,000,000 refugees. Now THAT would be something for Britain First to complain about, and even the most liberally minded of us would think they had a point. If we don't spend money there, and soon, it will fall apart, then we will see a real refugee crisis.

Pretty sure the arms manufacturers will carry on making lots of dosh for a fair few years yet

[SolentShrimp]

Sorry about where these links are from...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -YEAR.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... fakes.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ation.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... reams.html

...but it seems that the Left Wing, and Socialist red-tops have kicked the problems in Germany, and Hungary, and Sweden, and other parts of Europe into touch.

[Freez]

..or the right wing, pensioner frightening, intolerant Snail are exaggerating, twisting facts and quoting ludicrous sources and dodgy stats?? NOOOOO!

[mrpotatohead]

''when you are a refugee, you are like a leaf, being blown by the wind'' wise words from a resident of a village in germany aged 87, sympathetic towards his temporary neighbours who have lost everything, so not all total bollocks in the mail then?


Oh , and the TV listings are usually accurate as well.

[SolentShrimp]

Tourism in Tunisia is practically done for. Same with Sharm, Luxor and Hurghada after the Russian airline disaster over Sinai. A terrorist act in Morocco will close that down to all but essential travel.

So who in their right minds is going to risk their own life, or their family, by taking a holiday in these places ever again?

Thousands of tourist workers in Tunisia are already without work, and that'll soon be the case in the Egyptian resorts I've mentioned. Their future is terminally bleak!

That sorry and sad state of affairs has left thousands and thousands of hotel beds empty.

There's a very simple solution. Fill all those empty beds in those muslim countries with muslim migrants and refugees. They share a common religion, culture, food, and everything else that Islam and the Qu'ran preaches.

Saudi Arabia and other rich Arab countries can help their brother Muslims (as ordained in the Qu'ran) by picking up the bill!

Europe could do their bit by taking all non-muslims asylum seekers and refugees.

Europe could then get back to normal - Result!

[Keith]

Saudi Arabia and other rich Arab countries can help their brother Muslims (as ordained in the Qu'ran) by picking up the bill!

You really are determined not to accept that the Saudis approve of ISIS are you? The Saudis are not interested in peace in the Middle East or North Africa, they won't pick up the tab.

[SolentShrimp]

Saudi Arabia and other rich Arab countries can help their brother Muslims (as ordained in the Qu'ran) by picking up the bill!

You really are determined not to accept that the Saudis approve of ISIS are you? The Saudis are not interested in peace in the Middle East or North Africa, they won't pick up the tab.

Why is Saudi Arabia constructing a 600 mile wall across it's northern border with Iraq? To keep ISIS out of Saudi Arabia perhaps!

No doubt there are some Saudi financial backers.

There'll be a lot of pressure put on the Saudis soon.

[SolentShrimp]

This gives an idea of what the wall will look like...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... -Isil.html

Come a long way since Hadrian's effort.

[SolentShrimp]

Saudi Arabia and other rich Arab countries can help their brother Muslims (as ordained in the Qu'ran) by picking up the bill!

You really are determined not to accept that the Saudis approve of ISIS are you? The Saudis are not interested in peace in the Middle East or North Africa, they won't pick up the tab.

I've been putting a little more sensible thought into what I said earlier.

You say the Saudis and other rich Gulf countries aren't prepared to help their brother Muslims (as ordained in the Qu'ran).

So let Europe help places like Tunisia and Egypt, who have tens of thousands of empty hotel room, and mass employment?

International Aid Budget should be used to pay for flights and accommodation for the refugees to go to these countries. Along with all the Foreign Aid from other EU countries that would solve the migrant crisis into Europe in one big hit.

After all, what happened when Thomas Cook introduced cheap affordable foreign package holidays? The UK's seaside resorts lost most of their paying customers. Empty bedrooms in B&Bs in resorts started to get used for the country's poor unfortunates, addicts, and the full plethora of other folk unable to financial fend for themselves. Most resorts have never recovered their sparkle, but beds were filled, and money spent in local economies which might otherwise have folded completely.

The UK government at the time, and ever since, clearly think it's alright to dump our own 'problem' people on already ailing seaside resorts in the UK.

***This country can then get down to the problem in hand of making life better for our own poor and needy, who otherwise face being cast aside.***

[shrimpnsave]

Getting closer to home
http://news.sky.com/story/1587380/live- ... -situation

[SolentShrimp]

Getting closer to home
http://news.sky.com/story/1587380/live- ... -situation

I hope I'm wrong, but I'm sure that there's a finger on a trigger just waiting to be pressed. The question is more when than if?!

[halfwayprawn]

Just because you don't agree with the other thread, should not mean it has to be locked.

[George Dawes]

Just because you don't agree with the other thread, should not mean it has to be locked.

+1

[shrimpnsave]

Just because you don't agree with the other thread, should not mean it has to be locked.

+1

+2

[Keith]

Just because you don't agree with the other thread, should not mean it has to be locked.

Actually, yes it does. That's the way it works.

I'm happy to discuss and debate pretty much anything on here. This has been one of the most open football forums going for many years. Often it's upset regular users.

However, in this instance, Peter jumped in to further his own jaundiced view, as he has many times before. I have better things to do than sit here cleaning things up all day. Peter has been banned twice before, he has form.

This thread remains open for the moment. Peter is advised to avoid it.

[shrimpnsave]

Good judgement Keith to re-open the thread

[SolentShrimp]

However, in this instance, Peter jumped in to further his own jaundiced view, as he has many times before. I have better things to do than sit here cleaning things up all day. Peter has been banned twice before, he has form.

This thread remains open for the moment. Peter is advised to avoid it.

I haven't got a jaundiced view. I hate Terrorists, what's wrong with that? I'm not in favour of Open Borders or unregulated immigration, what's wrong with that? I try to be as eloquent as possible to put my case across, what's wrong with that? SV is a discussion forum, we can't all agree, what's wrong with that? O/T threads are for O/T discussion, what's wrong with that?

Yes I have got a view, and I'd like to think that I express it without leaving any doubt how I feel. what's wrong with that?

And what's wrong with questioning what others post?

On this subject, one of the terrorists had a Syrian Passport, and entered the EU via Greece last month. Another terrorist had an Egyptian Passport found by his body.