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Re: jims tactics

Postby mrpotatohead » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:31 pm

yeah, ''we give footy a bad name!''
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Seasider9601 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:36 pm

seantheshrimp wrote:Who wanted to play whitesnake anyway


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Re: jims tactics

Postby mrpotatohead » Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:39 pm

By jovi, i got the wrong band!
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Re: jims tactics

Postby KenH » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:54 am

There's a serious lack of intelligence both at management and player level. There are NO tactics or game plans at all.

All we do is exactly the same every game. The strategy is to just do the same on the grounds that the opposition wouldn't expect us to do the same as we did the last 20 games (apologies for the dodgy copy of the Blackadder sketch).

When things aren't going right on the pitch, anyone with half a brain would change things. But, no, not Morecambe, they just carry on doing the same thing and expecting different results. Did Barry seriously think that his goal kicks would get better if he carried on doing the same?

We could all see things going wrong during the Leyton Orient game - the players were back to their old ways of "hoof and hope". Seems that they've not changed anything and just doing the same.

It needs a shake up.

I'd start giving more playing time to the youngsters, Bondswell, Bailey and Kelleher and also bring back Doyle. There are a lot of under-performing players out there still getting starting places such as Flemmo, Paz and Kenyon. They need to warm the bench a bit now. Can't understand why Goodall didn't feature yesterday - he's the one player who has any foresight, control and direction on the pitch. Yesterday, it was just headless chickens.

There's no way we'll get the decent players signed up for new contracts. Barky, Miller and Wildig will go elsewhere as they must be severely frustrated with the muppets they are playing with.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Seasider9601 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:56 am

mrpotatohead wrote:By jovi, i got the wrong band!


That's made me smile for the first time since they equalised last night ! :D
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Seasider9601 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:59 am

KenH wrote:and also bring back Doyle.


He's back. His loan expired last weekend.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby marky No.1 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:20 am

KenH wrote:Did Barry seriously think that his goal kicks would get better if he carried on doing the same? .


That was amazing, I think we were shocked that Dagenham were pressing our defenders at the top of the pitch. At 2.0 down they were virtually down and out, their manager ballistic, but we gave them a lifeline .
Baz was lost what to do, his big kicks wouldn't go big as we panicked in the 2nd half, so he started to really put the boot in and the ball just came further back. He tried to give it to the defenders, but the strikers were on them straight away and the ball came back to Baz and hey ho hoof again - it was like watching a circus.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Christies Child » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:53 am

A very close friend of mine commented after the game that Jim looked as though he'd had enough of it all and wouldn't be surprised if he walked. I'm not sure about that but I do know that I'm beginning to loose interest and that match days are no longer giving me the buzz that they once did.


Maybe a change of tactics at home will rekindle my passion. Playing 2 strikers and ball to feet would be a start but is that really likely, probably not especially when instructions from Ken in the second half wanted the ball to be launched long from the back despite the conditions begging for the ball to be played on the deck!!!!

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Re: jims tactics

Postby mrpotatohead » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:56 am

was it your ''imaginary friend'', seantheshrimp?
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:20 am

Christies Child wrote:A very close friend of mine commented after the game that Jim looked as though he'd had enough of it all and wouldn't be surprised if he walked. I'm not sure about that but I do know that I'm beginning to loose interest and that match days are no longer giving me the buzz that they once did.


Maybe a change of tactics at home will rekindle my passion. Playing 2 strikers and ball to feet would be a start but is that really likely, probably not especially when instructions from Ken in the second half wanted the ball to be launched long from the back despite the conditions begging for the ball to be played on the deck!!!!

:( :( :(



Agreed. I left last nights match sick with what I had seen but not surprised.

Paul Weller on Radio Lancashire said he thought Morecambe made a mistake playing just one up front as he was isolated from the midfield.

Home fans have seen 3 wins only this season and 2 of those were in August so its not surprising that the gates are falling.

Play your best team , why wasn't Goodall playing and it was crying out for Mullin as well.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby marky No.1 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:06 am

Seasider9601 wrote:
Remember when we had a £65,000 bid for Michael Gash rejected by the selling club?

Seems so long ago......


Will get to see what we missed on Saturday, he's scored 7 up to now. Bet him and Akinde can't wait to get stuck in
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Christies Child » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:24 am

Gone_Shrimping wrote:
Christies Child wrote:A very close friend of mine commented after the game that Jim looked as though he'd had enough of it all and wouldn't be surprised if he walked. I'm not sure about that but I do know that I'm beginning to loose interest and that match days are no longer giving me the buzz that they once did.


Maybe a change of tactics at home will rekindle my passion. Playing 2 strikers and ball to feet would be a start but is that really likely, probably not especially when instructions from Ken in the second half wanted the ball to be launched long from the back despite the conditions begging for the ball to be played on the deck!!!!

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Agreed. I left last nights match sick with what I had seen but not surprised.

Paul Weller on Radio Lancashire said he thought Morecambe made a mistake playing just one up front as he was isolated from the midfield.

Home fans have seen 3 wins only this season and 2 of those were in August so its not surprising that the gates are falling.

Play your best team , why wasn't Goodall playing and it was crying out for Mullin as well.



Doubt that many will disagree with that except the management team.....???
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Re: jims tactics

Postby MfcChris » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:32 am

Jim doesn't have tactics. He is not a good manager like that. He is based on motivation and determination and encouraging, making people happy to be here.

Although you need talent to be a footballer, at this level the talent isn't as much so hard work, grit and putting a shift in out ways this which is why Jim keeps us comfortably in this division.

That said I wouldn't mind a new manager who knows more about tactics and proper management and to be able to change things when hoof ball isn't working. And not an ex defender.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Shrimpy » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:33 am

Christies Child wrote:
Gone_Shrimping wrote:
Christies Child wrote:A very close friend of mine commented after the game that Jim looked as though he'd had enough of it all and wouldn't be surprised if he walked. I'm not sure about that but I do know that I'm beginning to loose interest and that match days are no longer giving me the buzz that they once did.


Maybe a change of tactics at home will rekindle my passion. Playing 2 strikers and ball to feet would be a start but is that really likely, probably not especially when instructions from Ken in the second half wanted the ball to be launched long from the back despite the conditions begging for the ball to be played on the deck!!!!

:( :( :(



Agreed. I left last nights match sick with what I had seen but not surprised.

Paul Weller on Radio Lancashire said he thought Morecambe made a mistake playing just one up front as he was isolated from the midfield.

Home fans have seen 3 wins only this season and 2 of those were in August so its not surprising that the gates are falling.

Play your best team , why wasn't Goodall playing and it was crying out for Mullin as well.



Doubt that many will disagree with that except the management team.....???

I disagree. We played with 2 up front for the majority of the 2nd half and that was one of the worst 45 minutes of football I've ever seen.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby SupermarketShrimp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:43 am

It's the usual November slump where the fact that we have a small budget comes to the fore as the some of the 16 players that we have get injured/knackered/haven't got the legs they used to.

The annoyance is the fact that that game, and the Whitehawk game that followed, and the third round from that with an away fixture at any championship club and above would be in the region of £500k. All gone, all because we didn't seem to have a plan for the wind.

Jim is usually one that doesn't leave anything like that to chance. We actually played some good stuff playing it out the back from the keeper at times, there just wasn't enough of it.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Wed Nov 18, 2015 11:59 am

goneshrimping wrote:It's the usual November slump where the fact that we have a small budget comes to the fore as the some of the 16 players that we have get injured/knackered/haven't got the legs they used to.

The annoyance is the fact that that game, and the Whitehawk game that followed, and the third round from that with an away fixture at any championship club and above would be in the region of £500k. All gone, all because we didn't seem to have a plan for the wind.

Jim is usually one that doesn't leave anything like that to chance. We actually played some good stuff playing it out the back from the keeper at times, there just wasn't enough of it.


Accrington don't have a November slump and their budget will not be as much as ours , but Coleman seems to have the knack of finding players who fight for their shirt.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby red shrimp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:17 pm

Jims position needs looking at!! It's as simple as that! Last night was a joke!
He just hides away in the dug out playing with his phone! He's spineless!!
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Re: jims tactics

Postby SupermarketShrimp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:23 pm

Gone_Shrimping wrote:
goneshrimping wrote:It's the usual November slump where the fact that we have a small budget comes to the fore as the some of the 16 players that we have get injured/knackered/haven't got the legs they used to.

The annoyance is the fact that that game, and the Whitehawk game that followed, and the third round from that with an away fixture at any championship club and above would be in the region of £500k. All gone, all because we didn't seem to have a plan for the wind.

Jim is usually one that doesn't leave anything like that to chance. We actually played some good stuff playing it out the back from the keeper at times, there just wasn't enough of it.


Accrington don't have a November slump and their budget will not be as much as ours , but Coleman seems to have the knack of finding players who fight for their shirt.


Are you having a laugh? This lot will run through walls for Jim and the club. He always gets the right mix. Accrington must win the league every year by that yardstick.

It is only a week since we played Rochdale off the park. Shit performances happen. Just always to us when it matters. Keith Hill - "Morecambe are as honest as they come and I asked them for challenges and commitment like they were displaying"

Always the same merchants on here when we are on a bad trot, Neil trots out his negative bullshit when he thinks he might get a few backers, and it grows from there.

It wasn't good enough last night, there will be a response, there always has been. We have been spoilt.

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Re: jims tactics

Postby SupermarketShrimp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:25 pm

red shrimp wrote:Jims position needs looking at!! It's as simple as that! Last night was a joke!
He just hides away in the dug out playing with his phone! He's spineless!!


I which I had a history of being as spineless as James Graham Bentley.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Loyalsupporter » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:23 pm

As much as I agree with some of the posts expressing personal disappointment with the way the team were, I can't help but laugh my c0ck off at people calling Jim spineless and supposedly hiding in the dug outs.

I mean come on, it is pot calling the kettle

you hide behind a keyboard, calling for someone elses job

Jim will be as gutted as we are, he just doesn't come on here spouting sh!t

You expected an apology, moments later one was found on the BBC website.


Have any of you sent your complaints to the club direct, or do you expect them to find your comments on here and contact you.

One more thing, Ken McKenna is Jims taction (has been since the partnership got together)


Some of you need to change your username to "moaning Minnie", "Statler", "Waldorf".



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Re: jims tactics

Postby sandgrown » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:32 pm

after supporting the club for over 50 years, last night was the final straw for me.

I was screaming for him to get off his backside and give the team some direction.

in his interview last week these were his excuses

wind, dark nights, travel, weather, injuries, small squad, training, heavy slippy pitches, squad rotation.

sorry but Jim must go
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Re: jims tactics

Postby Loyalsupporter » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:53 pm

sandgrown wrote:after supporting the club for over 50 years, last night was the final straw for me.

I was screaming for him to get off his backside and give the team some direction.

in his interview last week these were his excuses

wind, dark nights, travel, weather, injuries, small squad, training, heavy slippy pitches, squad rotation.

sorry but Jim must go


A friend of mine, has pointed out that every time we hear from Jim after a bad result, the same reasons are quoted.

It is like he is trying hard for constructive criticism.

I remember when there was a bit of the old hair dryer treatment at half time and we came out fighting / winning - where has this gone.......

It wont be long before the words small budget, small squad, fatigued players are all used to appease fans.

either that or we smash Barnet for 6 on Saturday
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Re: jims tactics

Postby BoroRedShrimp » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:05 pm

sandgrown wrote:after supporting the club for over 50 years, last night was the final straw for me.

I was screaming for him to get off his backside and give the team some direction.

in his interview last week these were his excuses

wind, dark nights, travel, weather, injuries, small squad, training, heavy slippy pitches, squad rotation.

sorry but Jim must go


Who with to replace Jim exactly?

After Jim & Ken signing new contracts I very much doubt it is going to happen soon as we have no money to bring anybody else in. Not many managers could work on the budget Jim does & keep us up season after season. He had no more money to play with even after selling Jack in the summer. We have to make do with what we have got. Unless we get new investment things will not change any time soon. Last night was unacceptable & frustrating for us all but it happens, nothing more we can do about it now, but move on to the next match. The mood will change if we manage to win 3 more games in the JPT. Onwards and upwards.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby halfwayprawn » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:41 pm

There are tactics involved, as we have seen ie Walsall,Bury,Rochdale and a few away games, where players seem to know how to play to a system.but when it comes to home matches, hoof ball comes to the fore, especially if we are behind until the last 10mins, when we go on the attack and get the crowd involved again.When we play the ball on the ground we are as good as most teams in this league and some of the above.Last night how many times did Barry roll/throw the ball to wilson to get down the wing, instead of electing to just hoofing it into the wind.How many times did wilson take a throw in,when he should have yrecieved the ball, to cross it.Once we went behind it was panic and desperation time and when Ken was trying to gee them up,he might have well been in the wind.
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Re: jims tactics

Postby George Dawes » Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:57 pm

an old lad who I know, is throwing the towel in, not coming again.

where to nice, its about time we start getting onto players for slacking and not putting in an 100% shift, sometimes players need a verbal kick up the arse! off the fans!
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