jims tactics

[mrpotatohead]

maybe, given the fact that globes sponsorship was factored into the build of the stadium, the club are asking an unrealistic amount for the stadium naming rights?

If its 250k for 5 years, then a new sponsor needs a return of at least double that on the back of the business it generates, just to get tgeir money back, say, 2k per week, well thats not likely, so its either a short term deal, or a reduction, or ''Barbaras Wool Park''.

[SupermarketShrimp]

I suppose my frustration is that this is probably the best squad I've seen at Morecambe, especially given our budget. This squad also plays fantastic football like destroying Portsmouth for 45 mins, beating three League 1 sides away and at times playing some delightful football. As a result, for the first time under Jim's management it feels like they're under performing. There are some good excuses like Peter Murphy's injury but there aren't many others except budget.

This should be the season we pushed on and challenged for the play offs and done OK in the cups. Instead our home performances are clearly leading to a decline in our fan base that isn't sustainable. There's very little going on off the pitch to provide hope of new investment, new sponsors or new long-term initiatives. We can't afford to get into a home slump and have to turn this around, again at home, or you start to worry about the future.

I've got faith in Jim, Ken and the team but they collectively need to ditch the excuses and start thinking positively and battle together to get some decent home results.

This in abundance.

[Phil Anderer]

Jim keeps moaning about the budget, but that is severely impacted on by reducing home attendances. An obsession with clean sheets, rather than the free-flowing, goal-scoring football we started the season with, is not helping, so Jim is actually being the architect, to some extent, of his biggest problem. If he reverts to trying to score goals, preferably more than the opposition scores, then people will start coming back. They see results like 3-2, 4-3, 4-2 in the papers, all Morecambe wins, on a regular basis, the floaters and those who've drifted away will start to come back, although it will take time and consistency in the results. It will happe quicker that way than 0-0, 1-0, 0-1, which will keep them away and send more to join them. I'm shutting my ears to the budget excuses from now on because it's partly Jim's fault.

[Shrimpy]

An obsession with clean sheets, rather than the free-flowing, goal-scoring football we started the season with, is not helping

Where has this idea come from that we are now too concerned with keeping clean sheets?

Here are the number of goals we've scored per home game this season and the result.

2 - lost
0 - lost
3 - won
3 - lost
1 - lost
2 - lost
2 - won
4 - won
0 - lost
1 - won
0 - lost

This "free-flowing, goal-scoring football we started the season with" you describe saw us score 1 goal in three games before we put 4 past Notts County and then beat Walsall in the cup.

Since then we've scored 2 or more goals in 4 out of our 6 games but won only one of them. Maybe if we did have an "obsession with clean sheets" we would have managed to pick up a few more points along the way.

[KenH]

maybe, given the fact that globes sponsorship was factored into the build of the stadium, the club are asking an unrealistic amount for the stadium naming rights?

If its 250k for 5 years, then a new sponsor needs a return of at least double that on the back of the business it generates, just to get tgeir money back, say, 2k per week, well thats not likely, so its either a short term deal, or a reduction, or ''Barbaras Wool Park''.

Exactly this! The question is "what's in it for the sponsor?" With such low attendances and little chance of any televised matches, there's going to be a very low rate of return on the investment in sponsoring it. So, the only hope is getting a firm with local connections to do it out of a sense of community rather than to get a return, hence the hope that an electricity company may do it due to Heysham power stations, but other than that, we're a bit snookered as we have virtually no large scale private employers around here - it's all public sector with the RLI and University. I would have hoped that PMG's connections may have secured a national or international sports brand who would have considered £250k small change, but clearly not.

[SupermarketShrimp]

The sponsorship of the ground I'd say is the most paramount of all the offers from the club. Every week they'll appear on national TV highlights and a lot of footballing saddos actually keep track of what grounds are called, much less the current sponsor on the shirts.

[KenH]

Jim keeps moaning about the budget, but that is severely impacted on by reducing home attendances. .......... I'm shutting my ears to the budget excuses from now on because it's partly Jim's fault.

My feelings exactly. But I don't even think it's about scoring goals or winning. No one expects a goal-fest or a win every time. Personally, I'm not too bothered about the League position either (as long as we're not relegated!). Football is first and foremost entertainment. What I (and clearly many others) don't want to come down to The Globe to see is Flemmo constantly doing a brilliant tackle and then back-passing or giving the ball away. We don't want to see constant "hoof it and hope". We don't want to constantly see Big Kev fluffing his feet. We don't want to constantly see poor passing. I don't expect Ronaldo or Suarez or Rooney, but I do want to see them string a few passes together and want to see the likes of Barky or Miller go on a run - when it happens (sadly too rarely) you can feel the excitement from fans around you - if it works and a goal is scored, all the better, but even if not, you've enjoyed the feeling of hope. It's that that makes the fans want to sing and cheer. When the management & team can't be arsed (like Tuesday), they surely can't expect the fans to bother either. Surely they can't expect applause and cheers when all they do is miss passes and play hoof it and hope?

[Seasider9601]

Exactly this! The question is "what's in it for the sponsor?" With such low attendances and little chance of any televised matches, there's going to be a very low rate of return on the investment in sponsoring it. So, the only hope is getting a firm with local connections to do it out of a sense of community rather than to get a return, hence the hope that an electricity company may do it due to Heysham power stations, but other than that, we're a bit snookered as we have virtually no large scale private employers around here - it's all public sector with the RLI and University. I would have hoped that PMG's connections may have secured a national or international sports brand who would have considered £250k small change, but clearly not.

I keep harping on about Accrington Stanley but they always manage to attract a ground sponsor on their low attendances and none live TV coverage.

Local sponsors to them in their area too, ok, admitedly, some have gone bump (Fraser Eagle) but they ALWAYS manage to secure a sponsorship deal most seasons on short term one/two season deals.

Worrying how we can't do.

[KenH]

I keep harping on about Accrington Stanley but they always manage to attract a ground sponsor on their low attendances and none live TV coverage.

Local sponsors to them in their area too, ok, admitedly, some have gone bump (Fraser Eagle) but they ALWAYS manage to secure a sponsorship deal most seasons on short term one/two season deals.

Worrying how we can't do.

I think MFC are hung up on a long term deal because they've made the marketing mistake of using the stadium name for the hospitality and room hire side of the business. Hiring out the W&L and boxes etc for businesses and functions etc needs a stable name and they've gone with the Globe, so they'll have to do an entire re-marketing job on the non-football side of the business when the stadium name changes, which is something completely impractical every year or two, risking loss of business, hence the need for a five year deal.

A decent marketing expert in 2010 would have realised that issue in the first place and ensured that the function and meeting rooms were marketed under a different brand name to ensure continuity whenever the ground sponsor changed, i.e. could have called that side of business "Christie's" or even something simple like "Morecambe Football Club" or something equally enduring, which would be a constant regardless of what the stadium itself was called.

[Seasider9601]

This would (WILL) need changing and updating too:

http://www.globearena.co.uk/

[SupermarketShrimp]

This would (WILL) need changing and updating too:

http://www.globearena.co.uk/

I do wonder why we persist in using the name of a shit, defunct building company.

[mrpotatohead]

so do I, the deal actually proves that sponsoring the stadium was actually pointess too, prior to going bust, did anyone see any ''globe construction'' major projects appear in this area?

So actually how do you sell it, I hope tge new commercial manager knows?

[marky No.1]

Can't blame Jim's tactics for this

[Phil Anderer]

An obsession with clean sheets, rather than the free-flowing, goal-scoring football we started the season with, is not helping

Where has this idea come from that we are now too concerned with keeping clean sheets?

Here are the number of goals we've scored per home game this season and the result.

2 - lost
0 - lost
3 - won
3 - lost
1 - lost
2 - lost
2 - won
4 - won
0 - lost
1 - won
0 - lost

This "free-flowing, goal-scoring football we started the season with" you describe saw us score 1 goal in three games before we put 4 past Notts County and then beat Walsall in the cup.

Since then we've scored 2 or more goals in 4 out of our 6 games but won only one of them. Maybe if we did have an "obsession with clean sheets" we would have managed to pick up a few more points along the way.

I wasn't suggesting we were being successful at keeping clean sheets, merely that I perceive this as being a key target for Jim, over and above scoring goals and winning games. This is partly due to a brief conversation I had with Baz last season, by the way. As for the goal scoring, at one point we were the highest scoring (or equaly highest) goalscorers across the football league, but I strongly suspect no longer.

[4G63]

EDF Energy are highly unlikely to sponsor the ground. Personally I think we are clutching at straws here.

The 'big six' energy companies are coming under a lot of scrutiny at the moment, and probably will do for quite some time. Wholesale electricity prices are nowhere near what they were predicted to be, mainly due to low oil prices, so there will be less money to spend.

Also, they tend to sponsor larger projects or events. Such as sponsoring the London Eye (which they didn't renew when the contract was up) and being a major sponsor during the 2012 London Olympics. Oh and there was the EDF Energy Cup a few years back wasn't there? Think that is something to do with carrying an odd shaped ball.

Lastly i'd ask 'Why us?'. They have operations all over the UK.

Just my opinion anyway

[mrpotatohead]

big storage on white lund were a good sponsor, until they were taken over by a bigger company ''armadillo'', who are not interested in sponsoring local sport, so there isn't any firm around here with the inclination, or deep enough pockets ,to sponsor our arena, there are no major investment opportunities on the horizon, and no chance of tv/ cup revenue, I would worry about the clubs financial future more than the teams tactics.

[seantheshrimp]

What about approaching the local drug dealers in the area see if they need somewhere to launder their ill gotten gains.

[marky No.1]

Yeah but if we called it the Ecstasy Arena we would have wild women arriving from every direction.
Crack everywhere

[mrpotatohead]

I think, them there types ''speculate to accumulate!"'

[mrpotatohead]

Ecstacy is definately in short supply at the globe at the moment

[mrpotatohead]

......and wool.......Barbaras wool.

[mrpotatohead]

BARBARA BARBARA
HAVE YOU ANY WOOL?
NO SIR NO SIR
I DEAL IN CRACK!

[marky No.1]

WTF has this got to do with Jims tictacs, he's not a farmer.
Can I pour you another, Spuddy

[mrpotatohead]

Its 3 years today since i last drank alcohol Marky, ....have you got any crack?.

[mrpotatohead]

or wool?