DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

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Postby KenH » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:40 pm

Gone_Shrimping wrote:I have tried to find out without success whether fans can purchase shares in the club. If that was possible maybe all interested fans could buy some shares with the money raised being ring-fenced for the Omega facilities.


Something I've thought is a massive untapped source of funds. A few months ago, I looked on the Co House website at the shareholder list and was amazed that there are over 900 individual shareholders, but that looks to be a historical legacy - most will probably have died and their share never formally passed on to their beneficiaries (the executors probably didn't even know). So at some stage in it's history, it must have been freely selling shares to the general public. Other clubs (football and other) issue shares to raise capital - in most local golf clubs for example, you buy a share when you become a member, so all members jointly own the club. Why can't MFC do that? Or is PMG holding out for a buyer to get his investment back and not wanting to dilute his shareholding?
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Postby mrpotatohead » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:53 pm

Its his club,or business.
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby Shrimps Trust » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:56 pm

Wild Bill wrote:Simple steel frame with corrugated sheet roof made from the same colour as the rest of the stand. Totally safe, simple to construct and would be pretty much maintenance free.

Anyone from FCOM want to put this across to the chairman? Maybe even get a local sponsor to chip in a few ££.



I will ask the questions raised by this. I will also see if there is a possibility of a forum.

Would anyone know if even for a temp roof is planning permission required?

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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby Wild Bill » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:06 pm

F-CoM wrote:Would anyone know if even for a temp roof is planning permission required?


I certainly aren't an expert but according to this possibly not:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/permis ... buildings/

Just emailed the club too. I see no reason why this can't happen if we get enough support from fans and possibly a sponsor.
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby Keith » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:25 pm

KenH wrote:A few months ago, I looked on the Co House website at the shareholder list and was amazed that there are over 900 individual shareholders, but that looks to be a historical legacy - most will probably have died and their share never formally passed on to their beneficiaries (the executors probably didn't even know).


Many years ago, you had to become a shareholder to join 'The World Cup Bar' at Christie Park. I have a vague recollection of it being a £1 share, but that may not be correct. It is possibly tied in with that? The numbers would be about right, was my name there??? That £1 share is probably worth £0.05 now! :roll:
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Postby Keith » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:31 pm

halftimeresults wrote:2. Transport links have to be improved , new housing estates on Westgate could surely strengthen the case for a better bus service or even a rail link (don't laugh because it can be done)


I suggested a train stop being built there, before the stadium was even started. It would have been so simple, a platform on either side and a crossing. A train goes up to Heysham Port early afternoon as it is (about 1:30pm?) so the only real addition would be a further train after the match to take fans away. For big games a 'special' could bring away fans in. Joined up thinking? Who'd have thunked?
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Postby marky No.1 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:37 pm

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halftimeresults wrote:2. Transport links have to be improved , new housing estates on Westgate could surely strengthen the case for a better bus service or even a rail link (don't laugh because it can be done)


I suggested a train stop being built there, before the stadium was even started. It would have been so simple, a platform on either side and a crossing. A train goes up to Heysham Port early afternoon as it is (about 1:30pm?) so the only real addition would be a further train after the match to take fans away. For big games a 'special' could bring away fans in. Joined up thinking? Who'd have thunked?


That was looked into. £1M I think was mentioned the cost would have been
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Postby halftimeresults » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:42 pm

the cost is down to all new stations having to have lifts for wheel chairs.. Buckshaw now have a station after years of campaigning.
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Postby Christies Child » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:11 pm

Maybe the club could employ a 'catcher' who armed with a hook and a pole could 'hook' fans on board the train as it slowed almost to a crawl at the rear of the North Stand. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Postby Keith » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:31 pm

halftimeresults wrote:the cost is down to all new stations having to have lifts for wheel chairs.. Buckshaw now have a station after years of campaigning.


Why would it need a lift? It is a single track line, so a ramp leading on to a single platform, on the football ground side. It wouldn't even need a crossing, but if it did, that would only be £30,000.

http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/news/local/ ... -1-7684296

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Postby mrpotatohead » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:57 pm

As these ideas are being given to the club for fuck all, would it be a good idea to sack the ''commercial'' manager, and use his salary to inplement some of them?
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Postby RedRedWine » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:49 pm

halftimeresults wrote:no we couldn't
http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/news/local/ ... -1-1213969


That article in The Vis doesn't say anything about the TC refusing Morecambe FC the right to use the town crest or asking for money to use it, only that the TC are the copyright holders.

It basically says that the club has a new badge for a bright new future and that PMG is happy about it, even though some fans are not. Given we are talking about how a lot of things have gone wrong since we cocked up the building of the new stadium which some believe has pissed off some fans to the point of non-attendance, perhaps we should bin the cartoon prawn on an Arsenal shield?
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby mrpotatohead » Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:21 pm

here here RRW, Its rank, (as they say in china)
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby parceldave » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:18 pm

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marky No.1 wrote:
Seasider9601 wrote:Carlisle United secured a MAJOR 3 year deal yesterday for their ground with Newcastle Airport.


Yeah, but Carlisle are flying at the moment


Indeed Mark. AND can tie up ground sponsorship deals. ££££££££££££.


So why can't we , i would have thought with the previous success that PMG has had in his business ventures that attracting a ground sponsor would have been a doddle or is he not our negotiator in these matters . Would be interesting to know which businesses have been approached and what sort of deals were offered , are we asking too much .
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Postby marky No.1 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:34 pm

I think the previously inflated valuation of what we thought we had got plus the concern over rebranding everything will have something to do with it, but other Clubs seem to change the name of their stadium perennially without losing their roots. Was a bit of putting all your eggs in one basket at the time when things looked rosy
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Postby morecambegeek » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:49 pm

One stand sponsor and the ground sponsor have both gone bust since the ground opened.

With a track record like that, there's hardly going to be a massive queue to sponsor us, aside from the fact there isn't really a massive business in the immediate area outside of the power station to sponsor the club.
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Postby mrpotatohead » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:07 pm

Christie park will be remembered in a hundred years,PMG? GLOBE? Naaaah.
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Postby parceldave » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:11 pm

morecambegeek wrote:One stand sponsor and the ground sponsor have both gone bust since the ground opened.

With a track record like that, there's hardly going to be a massive queue to sponsor us, aside from the fact there isn't really a massive business in the immediate area outside of the power station to sponsor the club.


I think you will find there a good few multi-million pound companies in the area , whether they have been approached or not i wouldn't know . Some of these companies i have done some work for so i will not name them , BUT as i dont have anything to do with Heysham Port any more they are now owned by Peel Ports who i think you will find have a few quid . I wouldn't have thought Accy was a very attractive business proposition but they have managed another sponsorship deal.
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby parceldave » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:14 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:Christie park will be remembered in a hundred years,PMG? GLOBE? Naaaah.


I would think PMG will be , don't think we would have progressed much without his finacial help.

Anyway i will let you know ;)
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby shrimpnsave » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:26 pm

Isnt this thread a tad irrelevant :?:
if the team don't deliver entertainment at home games there will be no club left let alone Omega stand/dwindling fans will continue and so on
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby Seasider9601 » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:16 pm

parceldave wrote:
morecambegeek wrote:One stand sponsor and the ground sponsor have both gone bust since the ground opened.

With a track record like that, there's hardly going to be a massive queue to sponsor us, aside from the fact there isn't really a massive business in the immediate area outside of the power station to sponsor the club.


I think you will find there a good few multi-million pound companies in the area , whether they have been approached or not i wouldn't know . Some of these companies i have done some work for so i will not name them , BUT as i dont have anything to do with Heysham Port any more they are now owned by Peel Ports who i think you will find have a few quid . I wouldn't have thought Accy was a very attractive business proposition but they have managed another sponsorship deal.


As have Kendal Town FC.

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Postby Wild Bill » Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:44 am

Why does a stadium sponsor have to be a local firm? Surely the real money is to do a deal with a big national or international firm? We might not get big gates but any sponsor would still get lots of nationwide coverage through the media. Think we must have been asking too much or not contacting the right people.
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Postby BerlinWaller » Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:00 am

I was told that the Town Council were requesting £25,000 for the use of the towns badge. It might have been the same bloke who told me that the Chinese were going to invest millions and take us to the Premier League though. :shock:
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Postby halftimeresults » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:37 pm

I've just gave Northern Rail a bell and they've agreed to sponsor our stadium and are willing to knock up a station at the back. ;)
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Re: DECLINING GATES, BEYOND A JOKE.

Postby George Dawes » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:10 pm

I was speaking it to one of my clients at EDF, and they were not aware the ground needs a new sponsor, and was told to mention it to the Station Director on stage 2" John Munro, and will do when I get chance, it's a brilliant opportunity for local public relations.




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