Critical future of our club

[Sammy h]

No, definitely not. Although sometimes I do question Jim's tactical decisions he is definitely the man to be in charge of this club.

[Keith]

No, definitely not. Although sometimes I do question Jim's tactical decisions he is definitely the man to be in charge of this club.

Totally agree.

What is the target at the start of each season? League survival.
Are we likely to achieve this again this season? Almost certainly.

What do the people who expect more judge success by? I want to see us playing more entertaining football. It sounds like we did that today and were unfortunate. Poor/unlucky defending & poor/unlucky finishing combined by the sound of it. Bring it on on Tuesday.

And in the mean time Jim, take the lads flatty fishing at Flookburgh again!

[halfwayprawn]

NO. he has managed to get a team together, but has had his hands tied by wanting to improve it by a chairman who in my opinion,seems to has taken his eye off the ball and left it to others. Yes there are ex players out there who want to be managers, but how much are they being paid and who say's they are any better,look at Nolan untried and Sherringham will he still be at Stevenage? [who are below us] at the end of the season.Also Cotterill has never really been consistant.All the out of work managers are out of work for a reason,plus there's no guarantee who ever we get is going to be any better,with no backing.,

[P/T Indie]

You have to remb PMG is very loyal remb he offered Sammy a new contract!!!

Also when Sammy left we were told there were lots of applicants was it 50 and we would have been surprised at some of the names.

[Westgate Wanderer]

Absolutely YES time is up! He has done all he can now he@s reduced to criticizing the players he brought to the club almost as if he is saying not my fault) and who he tells how to play. As for PMG being replaced he delivered the promised land of Football League, he delivered on a new stadium! Can we please put the problem at the managers feet and not the owner? THAT is where the problem is!! Advertise the post you will be surprised as to how many out of work managers are out there, or players eager to prove themselves. Our manager has tried all he knows now is the time for someone else to take the reins before our club becomes a laughing stock. We are dying on our feet!! As for any budget arguments its getting smaller because our manager is alienating the fans

[SupermarketShrimp]

He fucking stays or I riot.

[Christies Child]

Darren Peacock was at the game today...

Though think he started out at Newport and lives locally

He and Sinclair will make a formidable management team one day.... having wetted their appetites by partially learning their trade at Lancaster City.

[Seasider9601]

Darren Peacock was at the game today...

Though think he started out at Newport and lives locally

He and Sinclair will make a formidable management team one day.... having wetted their appetites by partially learning their trade at Lancaster City.

And they got potted for non achieving Neil.

[mrpotatohead]

NO



Because he is cost effective, and over achieves his acceptable target, league survival.



Imagine a meeting

PMG. ''What are your plans to improve things next season Jim?''

Jim. '' Errr dunno Boss. theres a couple of good lads being realeased by........

PMG. ''I'm a busy man JIm, well done again, we'll speak next year, and by the way, I'm selling your 3 best players''

[BoroRedShrimp]

NO



Because he is cost effective, and over achieves his acceptable target, league survival.



Imagine a meeting

PMG. ''What are your plans to improve things next season Jim?''

Jim. '' Errr dunno Boss. theres a couple of good lads being realeased by........

PMG. ''I'm a busy man JIm, well done again, we'll speak next year, and by the way, I'm selling your 3 best players''

You have hit the nail well & truly on the head.

[P/T Indie]

Its a vicious circle though because one of the reason Jim has no budget is because his negative tactics have driven the crowds away.

[mrpotatohead]

its not just that though is it.

[Teams like Morecambe]

Its a vicious circle though because one of the reason Jim has no budget is because his negative tactics have driven the crowds away.

Negative tactics? We are the joint third highest scorers in the Football League! We score lots and concede lots, there is nothing negative about Jims tactics. We could easily have scored 4 or 5 today. Winning is all that the glory supporters care about and we rarely win at home thus the dwindling numbers.

[mrpotatohead]

dwindling as of today to 1437 a match, average this season, and dropping , we have had crap attendances all season, from the first game.

[Freez]

Played pretty well today apart from the defending and scoring. They could have realistically scored two, and did. We could have score 6, but missed the chances.

We have no money, dwindling crowds and are lower mid table, we were four unbeaten and have now lost the last three, apparently this is crisis time and all needs changing??

If we had lost playing poorly, I'd be willing to think we need to change the way we play or maybe blood some youngsters, but we did pretty well today in my opinion, played the right way, used the wind cleverly particularly in the second half, and maybe with more composure could have had five!!

Conlan did have a good game, used it well and looked composed in possession, just as a matter of interest we kept count and he lost or gave it away four times, which three times more than Willo the other night, ( see my point..) and One more than Beels.
Yet they are both crap, apparently?
So again you can find anything to back up your argument if you look hard enough, even though he lost it four times he impressed, so that argument is bollocks, right?

It is, he played well.

As long as you wanted him to!

Keep the faith, we are due a win, soon, please??

[Seasider9601]

Starting Tuesday!

COYS !!!

[steve mfc]

If it was anyone else in charge then most people would be saying its time for a change, do I want Jim to be sacked no I dont but things have to improve sooner than latter we cant go on like this and lf people think that was a good performance then it just goes to show how far our standards have dropped.

[CityShrimp]

Even as a positive fan, the last two games have been pretty miserable experiences. Perspective is needed though.

Last season, the football we played in general was not especially exciting. This season has been something of an anticlimax because we addressed the lack of quality in midfield with our signings and earlier this season, we looked like we'd cracked it with some good performances and lots of goals. But since then we've slipped.

The problem isn't lack of effort - I actually felt really sorry for the players after the Mansfield result because it was such an intense, high tempo game even if the football wasn't amazing and it was harsh that we left the pitch with nothing.

We're going through a bad patch and that's the long and short of it. Confidence breeds confidence and the reverse is true as well. When we're winning and playing well, a player might make an attacking run and have his through ball intercepted - the fans say hard luck and applaud his endeavour. When the player does the same thing when we're losing, he gets booed and told he's a crap player. Is it any wonder the lads were so shy to shoot yesterday?

I actually thought Beeley played well yesterday and I liked that he was trying to surge forward with the ball. If he didn't do that, the same people would be complaining about him being negative and not going forward. He just hasn't been at his best, he's lost some pace and is playing through injury. When McGowan is fit and ready, Beels needs a rest from the starting line up and we will see the best of him again.

Let's have some reality, we have the lowest average attendances in League 2 - http://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/leaguetwo/attendances

And we're 15th. Nobody in their right mind can say that our league position isn't good enough. Wanting to get into the play offs is fine but actually expecting it? Madness.

The quality of the football has been lacking. But the way our attendances have dropped this season, yet more cuts to next seasons budget are inevitable and I genuinely think our budget will be the lowest in the league (less than Accys). I completely agree that the football needs to improve but sacking Jim I feel would be throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We have a young manager who is overachieving on his budget and achieving patchy performances. Personally, I wouldn't take the gamble of sacking him in the vague hope of finding someone who will overachieve on budget AND secure consistent performances, all for no money, but that's just me.

[Posh]

Question yes or no: were you at the game today? Because if you were you would've noted a much improved performance, one that on the balance of play didn't match the result. We were terrible on Tuesday, and despite Jimbo getting the first half tactics completely wrong IMO in that game, should still have won. IF we'd have won today and last Tuesday, we'd be a point outside the playoffs. With this in mind I think a few people really need to evaluate what they're saying... Because quite frankly what I've read on this thread is complete bollocks. If we were hovering above the drop zone I'd understand.

Well said.

The only place where change is needed is in ownership. Jim hasn't lost the dressing room but the club has lost the town.

[mrpotatohead]

Totally, the club started losing the town after the first season at the Globe, and have done nothing to address it, we can all make suggestions until we are blue in the face, but Morecambe FC in it's present state, are not going to listen.

[BerlinWaller]

Is the General Manager to blame or are we blaming the Chairman for the way the club is being ran?

I keep reading that Jims tactics are to blame but how can you blame something that does not exist?

[George Dawes]

Totally, the club started losing the town after the first season at the Globe, and have done nothing to address it, we can all make suggestions until we are blue in the face, but Morecambe FC in it's present state, are not going to listen.

demonstrations? sack the board?

[Seasider9601]

Question yes or no: were you at the game today? Because if you were you would've noted a much improved performance, one that on the balance of play didn't match the result. We were terrible on Tuesday, and despite Jimbo getting the first half tactics completely wrong IMO in that game, should still have won. IF we'd have won today and last Tuesday, we'd be a point outside the playoffs. With this in mind I think a few people really need to evaluate what they're saying... Because quite frankly what I've read on this thread is complete bollocks. If we were hovering above the drop zone I'd understand.

Well said.

The only place where change is needed is in ownership. Jim hasn't lost the dressing room but the club has lost the town.

+1

[Westgate Wanderer]

Great idea sack the board drive the chairman out of the club but keep the manager!! Genius

[mrpotatohead]

I don't think that has been suggested by anyone westgate, its not an option , customers cannot sack tbe owners of a business,