Sack him

[Kendalshrimp]

Not yet but in the summer. We've hit rock bottom we've got quality in the team but they all look clueless, similar with the Everton team there's good players in there but Jim can't get them to play together and it's time for a change, really thought this would be the season we make the play offs and have a good run after the signings we made last summer but unfortunately he's took us as far as he can I think, I'll comtinue to support the team but it's 100% time for a change this summer !!

[Seasider9601]

Did you hear Jim on Radio Lancs this evening?

The man sweats and bleeds for OUR club.

BACK him.

[mrpotatohead]

If Jim Bentey is sacked, the new manager will be told, ''you will have a slightly smaller budget than we led you to believe was the case at the interview, as we had to give the unfairly dimissed manager and his backroom staff the wages owed on their contracts, that they are fully entitled to, any problems ring me in Barbados!"'.

[Teams like Morecambe]

Did you hear Jim on Radio Lancs this evening?

The man sweats and bleeds for OUR club.

BACK him.

That's not the point though is it. Nobody is doubting his passion or commitment for the club. Its a results business and he isn't getting results. We can't afford to sack him so this discussion is merely hypothetical but a large number of fans have lost confidence in the managers ability. I sense this is the beginning of the end for Jim.

[Kendalshrimp]

Did you hear Jim on Radio Lancs this evening?

The man sweats and bleeds for OUR club.

BACK him.

As the old saying goes, he can talk a good job but it's the same old stuff every week and it needs fixing ASAP. All he keeps saying is we need to tighten up at the back but the same thing keep happening. I'll never go to a game an start slagging jim off after everything he's done for the club but being a legend doesn't make his position safe as it didn't even for Kenny dalglish at Liverpool. I think his times up and would like to see a change this summer

[Freez]

Fair enough, that's your opinion.
We have lost three on the bounce.
Before that we were four unbeaten.
In my opinion, that's not poor enough form to sack anyone.
We have had four managers in 25 years, there have been dark days before in these years but the board have remained sensible and stuck with their man.
The last time we were in a stew we were staring at the drop and we had Sammy in charge throwing daft money at poor players who didn't give a shit.
We took free coaches to Barnet and we won and stayed up, just.
Jim has around roughly half the budget of that season, yet we are still way above then??

It's tough but it's a test for Jim, the players, his back room staff and the fans, as well as the board. Whatever happens, I think results will get better as long as we keep playing like today?

[Morecambe Jack]

Forgetting money for one moment (I realise this is very hard for some), this team should be doing better than it is. Compare this squad to the one that finished 4th under Sammy and you could easily argue it is better.

[Kendalshrimp]

Fair enough, that's your opinion.
We have lost three on the bounce.
Before that we were four unbeaten.
In my opinion, that's not poor enough form to sack anyone.
We have had four managers in 25 years, there have been dark days before in these years but the board have remained sensible and stuck with their man.
The last time we were in a stew we were staring at the drop and we had Sammy in charge throwing daft money at poor players who didn't give a shit.
We took free coaches to Barnet and we won and stayed up, just.
Jim has around roughly half the budget of that season, yet we are still way above then??

It's tough but it's a test for Jim, the players, his back room staff and the fans, as well as the board. Whatever happens, I think results will get better as long as we keep playing like today?

Freez stop looking at the last few games and look at the season as a whole so far, we've lost 10 home games ! Anyone else in the country in our league or above would get sacked for this and the way things are going were going to end up losing more aswell. You might know Jim abit better than most of us but the record speaks for itselfs this season he's got it horribly wrong and things need to change !

[BerlinWaller]

It is not about the last 3 games or the 4 before that where we didn't lose. The fact we have lost 10 from 16 at home this season is shocking. I am tired of reading how good things are from people close to the club when the paying public have to sit/stand through the constant tripe offered up at home. Make the change now before our shaky mid table position becomes a fight to keep us in the league. 50 points is a million miles away on current form.

[George Dawes]

Jim is probably my favourite Morecambe player, I loved his style. but take that to one side.

a Manager at another club with this record at home, would be extremely lucky to still have a job, it's been going on for a few seasons now, and still no light at the end of the tunnel.

excuses

1] OK, if things are that tight, I would respect Jim more for quitting and saying how can you work with a budget and chairman like PMG who cut corners with the new ground .

2] OK, if it is the players, I would respect Jim more, if he dropped the Culprits and played the youngsters, who would have a point to prove and at least give 100%.

[KenH]

Agree, it's not just recent form. In fact, yesterday was more of a "bad day at the office" and far better than the usual scrappy tripe we've seen at The Globe recently. It could have far more easily be excused as a one-off unlucky day, which in fact is what it was. BUT, the real issue is that we've had season after season of poor home form at the Globe. We've survived and stayed in the league because of our far better performances away.

No-one should be judging Jim on yesterday's performance, or even the last few weeks, or even this season. Poor runs happen. However, it's not a poor run, is it? It's the culmination of seasons of poor entertainment at the Globe. This year's woeful cup games weren't one-offs, it happens every year. Season after season we have a good start and then fall apart.

As manager, Jim has had years to sort out why we under-perform at home and why we under-perform against poorer teams. But he hasn't. That's nothing to do with budgets and money. Playing well against better teams and away means that the real problem is team selection, formation and tactics - all under Jim's control. To an extent, the money problems can also be partly blamed upon Jim, as a result of the poor home form, season after season, which has led to a gradual reduction in fans - a reduction that's alarmingly more than ever this season!

No one doubts Jim's loyalty to the club and the hard work he puts in. But is that enough? Reminds me of Alan Sugar's joke about the bluebottle - no-one could doubt the bluebottle's energy and enthusiasm, but constantly hitting it's head against the window trying to get out gets it nowhere!

Things have to change, and quickly. If Jim can do that, he needs to sooner rather than later as time and loyalty to him is running out. If he can't, then it's time for someone else.

[black morse]

I've tried to say very little about Morecambe's home form as I never see them play up there. However, particularly this season, it was noticeable that our home form dipped when the bad weather started. After a (very) good start to the season we went on two to three bad runs in conjunction with the onset of this appalling spell of wind and rain which hasn't really let up for 3 months.

OK, you can say it's the same for both teams but is it? With a team like ours which has little height and one or two who can play good football but have not the brawn of many of our opponents in league 2 is it not possible that under bad conditions we are at a disadvantage?

Is it not true that the north west andScotland has born the brunt of the storms and gales? Living down here in the south west I know, whilst we have had plenty of rain and wind, it has still not been as bad as you have had and the conditions in the south east have been even better. It must be a relief for the team to play away on better pitches with less blustery conditions.

Finally bad weather conditions make playing that much harder and take that much more out of our players and (yes I know .....some are saying 'here we go again') we have got one of the smallest squads in the league if not THE smallest.

I know there are quite a few other reasons for our home form but surely the weather you have had compared with much of the country must have a bearing and could be another reason why we play better away.

[Lloydie]

Fair weather footballers and fair weather fans, not a good combination for a Northern team.,..........

[Caged Lion]

I listened to Jim talking on Radio Lancs after yesterday's game and there is something he needs to redress because he is wrong.

He suggested that we weren't having much 'luck', and poor refereeing had cost Ellison 4 goals. Ellison is offside far too many times.

Luck is for losers and to factor it into the equation as another reason why we are underperforming is a fallacy.

The teams at the top don't make an allowance for luck. It isn't the reason they are at the top.

Jim needs an experienced assistant who can give him some guidance. Each year it's the same and so far Jim hasn't been able to work out why things fall away during winter.

Keep Jim but replace McKenna with a wiser, league savvy, battle hardened person. There must be dozens of semi retired ex managers who could give Jim some useful direction in how to deal with things when the going gets tough

[George Dawes]

I don't know what to think, torn in two, does anybody think we're becoming a self-pity club, without realizing it?

[Phil Anderer]

I listened to Jim talking on Radio Lancs after yesterday's game and there is something he needs to redress because he is wrong.

He suggested that we weren't having much 'luck', and poor refereeing had cost Ellison 4 goals. Ellison is offside far too many times.

Luck is for losers and to factor it into the equation as another reason why we are underperforming is a fallacy.

The teams at the top don't make an allowance for luck. It isn't the reason they are at the top.

Jim needs an experienced assistant who can give him some guidance. Each year it's the same and so far Jim hasn't been able to work out why things fall away during winter.

Keep Jim but replace McKenna with a wiser, league savvy, battle hardened person. There must be dozens of semi retired ex managers who could give Jim some useful direction in how to deal with things when the going gets tough

Ellison's incompetent shooting cost him 4 goals (see my comments elsewhere).

[outsider]

Any link to JB's interview ? Can't find it

Found it

[aRealShrimp]

The disillusioned individuls on this forum don't deserve Jim bentley. If he were to go, you'd likely be enjoying non league football within 18 months.

This squad you're referring to was built by Bentley and wouldn't be here for long if he wasn't. Be careful what you wish for.

[Posh]

Forgetting money for one moment (I realise this is very hard for some), this team should be doing better than it is. Compare this squad to the one that finished 4th under Sammy and you could easily argue it is better.

Don't agree.

Here's the side that beat Shrewsbury in the second to last game versus the side that player Newport.

B Roche B Roche (older)
D Moss S Beeley
D Artell. A Dugdale
J Bentley. A Goodall
L Wilson. L Conlon
A Parrish. A Parrish
C Stanley. A Fleming
S Drummond. K Ellison
M Duffy. J Devitt
G Hunter. T Barkhuizen
P Mullin. S Miller

The big difference in the playoff side was the goals from Artell and Bentley. Those two alone scored 10, yet Beeley, Edwards, Dugdale, Paz and Wilson haven't scored a single goal between then.

[Posh]

The disillusioned individuls on this forum don't deserve Jim bentley. If he were to go, you'd likely be enjoying non league football within 18 months.

This squad you're referring to was built by Bentley and wouldn't be here for long if he wasn't. Be careful what you wish for.

While I agree.

You should really say a 'few disillusioned individuals'. It is a case of a vocal minority. On a poll on social media 81% of fans back Jim.

The minority shouldn't force Jim out and he's bigger than that. The constant negative atmosphere is pushing fans out.

[aRealShrimp]

The disillusioned individuls on this forum don't deserve Jim bentley. If he were to go, you'd likely be enjoying non league football within 18 months.

This squad you're referring to was built by Bentley and wouldn't be here for long if he wasn't. Be careful what you wish for.

While I agree.

You should really say a 'few disillusioned individuals'. It is a case of a vocal minority. On a poll on social media 81% of fans back Jim.

The minority shouldn't force Jim out and he's bigger than that. The constant negative atmosphere is pushing fans out.

Sorry I should have been more clear.

When I refer to the disillusioned individuals on this forum I'm referring to the likes of kendalshrimp who think Bentley should be sacked.

Posh I concur. The negativity around the place could also be playing a part in the poor home form. Not solely to blame but it can't be helping. We're underdogs not underachieving League Two big boys.

We're not getting the numbers through the gate we want at the moment however those of you who do turn out - get behind your team. Encourage. Support.

Pay attention to the Pompey fans on Tuesday night. Win, lose or draw they will be loud and proud. (and they should expect to win most games with their budget)

If we were the same I'd put good money on results improving at home. Might be in danger of enjoying it too.

[Kendalshrimp]

The disillusioned individuls on this forum don't deserve Jim bentley. If he were to go, you'd likely be enjoying non league football within 18 months.

This squad you're referring to was built by Bentley and wouldn't be here for long if he wasn't. Be careful what you wish for.

Deluded we've lost 10 home games do you think we don't have a right to criticise him and think that record is acceptable ? These are all Jims players and results haven't been good enough and without a doubt if we had a budget of some of more lucrative teams in this division he'd of been sacked long time ago this season !

[John L]

Never sack a manager during the season unless you're getting cut adrift or he goes a bit loopy, so ask me again in the summer...

[George Dawes]

While I agree.

You should really say a 'few disillusioned individuals'. It is a case of a vocal minority. On a poll on social media 81% of fans back Jim.

The minority shouldn't force Jim out and he's bigger than that. The constant negative atmosphere is pushing fans out.

out of where?

we've lost nearly a 1000 fans, are hardcore next season will be around 800, and that's down to match day experience and what's played on the pitch.


PS if you're referring to SVs it just as bad if not worse on FB with people wanting Jim out.

for me, we will stay up, and then the club as to do some serious thinking in the summer on stopping attendance going below the 1000 mark, next season.

[mrpotatohead]

Unfortunately posh, george is sort of right, a lot of fans have voted in a different way, with their feet, and given that most fans on here attend most matches, their differing views and opinions are all important, if you look at the attendance thing for example, even if we won our next three games on the trot 4 nil, I would only expect a marginal improvement, as we don't really have anything to play for, and the absent fans are going to take some coaxing back, The important thing in my opinion is regaining the fans still attending, particularly the season ticket holders, as I would think the uptake fornext year will be dire, most proactive clubs nowadays engage with fans and listen to them, ours don't, the fiasco of the Bar,/tent/shelter, proves that, the clubs commercial department need to start earning their wages, and maybe, if there was a few quid to actually spend, it could be given to the manager so we can find out if he can ''manage'', and not just ''make do ''.