If PMG can't sell..

If PMG can't sell..

Postby Kendalshrimp » Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:53 am

Then surely for the best interest of the club, he'll really consider jims future in the summer ??

The last thing PMG want is us starting next season off in the form were playing now. If no1 buys the club then the way we're playing now would definitely see us relegated next time round and make the club even harder to sell if we was relegated to the conference !

Surely it's in the best interest for him to do the right thing if he's guna be the owner next season and won't have 100% confidence in giving jim the budget again !
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Shrimpy » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:22 am

Kendalshrimp wrote:Then surely for the best interest of the club, he'll really consider jims future in the summer ??

The last thing PMG want is us starting next season off in the form were playing now. If no1 buys the club then the way we're playing now would definitely see us relegated next time round and make the club even harder to sell if we was relegated to the conference !

Surely it's in the best interest for him to do the right thing if he's guna be the owner next season and won't have 100% confidence in giving jim the budget again !

If PMG can't sell then I think whoever is managing the first team will be the least of our problems.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Kendalshrimp » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:31 am

Shrimpy wrote:
Kendalshrimp wrote:Then surely for the best interest of the club, he'll really consider jims future in the summer ??

The last thing PMG want is us starting next season off in the form were playing now. If no1 buys the club then the way we're playing now would definitely see us relegated next time round and make the club even harder to sell if we was relegated to the conference !

Surely it's in the best interest for him to do the right thing if he's guna be the owner next season and won't have 100% confidence in giving jim the budget again !

If PMG can't sell then I think whoever is managing the first team will be the least of our problems.

Why would it be ? Surely someone else experienced at this level wouldn't do any worse than Jim. If we start next season the way we're finishing this one, then we'll end up rock bottom of the league under Jim !
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Shrimpy » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:42 am

Kendalshrimp wrote:
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Kendalshrimp wrote:Then surely for the best interest of the club, he'll really consider jims future in the summer ??

The last thing PMG want is us starting next season off in the form were playing now. If no1 buys the club then the way we're playing now would definitely see us relegated next time round and make the club even harder to sell if we was relegated to the conference !

Surely it's in the best interest for him to do the right thing if he's guna be the owner next season and won't have 100% confidence in giving jim the budget again !

If PMG can't sell then I think whoever is managing the first team will be the least of our problems.

Why would it be ? Surely someone else experienced at this level wouldn't do any worse than Jim. If we start next season the way we're finishing this one, then we'll end up rock bottom of the league under Jim !

If we've sold off all the sellable clubs assets and PMG / the directors don't have the money to keep plugging the £500k+ a year losses out of their own pockets then I'd be more concerned with the club going bust than whether we should be sacking the first team manager.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Freez » Mon Apr 11, 2016 11:43 am

There are a myriad of ways to start a thread with the theme of "Get rid of Jim", but didn't think of this one! :D
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:22 pm

Yes , dunno why Jim loves a club supported by such a horrible bunch of slimy backstabbing ???? anyway

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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby bill ding » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:35 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:Yes , dunno why Jim loves a club supported by such a horrible bunch of slimy backstabbing *s anyway


Who cant control their language ,eh Mr king Edward :roll:

edit: And it's made more difficult for other people to control Mr P's language when it is quoted!


Oops sorry , should have edited the quote from mr potty gob first :oops:
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:08 pm

I can control my language just fine, I chose not to on this occasion.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Keith » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:30 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:I can control my language just fine, I chose not to on this occasion.


Well, I'd rather you did on the next occasion! :twisted:
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby KenH » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:23 pm

I think most importantly, Jim should be considering the club's future if there's no new owner and, in all likelihood, an even smaller player budget. If there's no money for the player budget he needs, there's no money to pay off Jim and Ken. If Jim really love Morecambe and wants it to avoid relegation/bankruptcy, and he's presented with an ever smaller budget that he knows won't be enough, then he needs to do the honourable thing and fall on his sword, by resigning along with Ken. All for the good of the club.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby black morse » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:44 pm

KenH wrote:I think most importantly, Jim should be considering the club's future if there's no new owner and, in all likelihood, an even smaller player budget. If there's no money for the player budget he needs, there's no money to pay off Jim and Ken. If Jim really love Morecambe and wants it to avoid relegation/bankruptcy, and he's presented with an ever smaller budget that he knows won't be enough, then he needs to do the honourable thing and fall on his sword, by resigning along with Ken. All for the good of the club.


Bit extreme isn't it? :lol:
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby marky No.1 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:59 pm

Don't say that, there will be a few excaliburs on Christie Way tomorrow
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:41 pm

Shrimpy wrote:If we've sold off all the sellable clubs assets and PMG / the directors don't have the money to keep plugging the £500k+ a year losses out of their own pockets then I'd be more concerned with the club going bust than whether we should be sacking the first team manager.


I've been saying this for ages. I've said before that my biggest fear is of us ending up like (the old) Darlington FC.

ie, move to a new ground, fanbase dwindles rapidly, owner deserts, loses Football League status, plays in Conference, club goes bang, starts again right down the football pyramid.

I'm worried about this scenario.........

NOW.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby MfcChris » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:01 pm

KenH wrote:I think most importantly, Jim should be considering the club's future if there's no new owner and, in all likelihood, an even smaller player budget. If there's no money for the player budget he needs, there's no money to pay off Jim and Ken. If Jim really love Morecambe and wants it to avoid relegation/bankruptcy, and he's presented with an ever smaller budget that he knows won't be enough, then he needs to do the honourable thing and fall on his sword, by resigning along with Ken. All for the good of the club.

Would you give up a paid job if you didn't have to or nothing lined up? I certainly wouldn't.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:56 pm

Seasider9601 wrote:
Shrimpy wrote:If we've sold off all the sellable clubs assets and PMG / the directors don't have the money to keep plugging the £500k+ a year losses out of their own pockets then I'd be more concerned with the club going bust than whether we should be sacking the first team manager.


I've been saying this for ages. I've said before that my biggest fear is of us ending up like (the old) Darlington FC.

ie, move to a new ground, fanbase dwindles rapidly, owner deserts, loses Football League status, plays in Conference, club goes bang, starts again right down the football pyramid.

I'm worried about this scenario.........

NOW.


We could do with the ownership issue resolving as soon as possible.

At the fans forum PMG said there was major interest from a potential investor and there were 2 or 3 other potential investors on the sidelines. He said there could be an announcement within weeks.

Then it was announced that he was putting the club up for sale so that the club could have a budget for the manager to work with in the Summer. Presumably this was to see if any other potential investors wanted to come in and raise the stakes. Has this move led to the other investor withdrawing his offer ?

Hopefully some positive news soon 8-) 8-)
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Shrimpy » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:16 pm

Gone_Shrimping wrote:Presumably this was to see if any other potential investors wanted to come in and raise the stakes.

Or, as I've seen mentioned on here elsewhere. The deal PMG had lined up fell through meaning he was out of options and has put the club up for sale as a last resort.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby mrpotatohead » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:38 pm

Shrimpy is warm, but not correct.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby bill ding » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:31 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:Shrimpy is warm, but not correct.





News flash ...........Mr Potty tato mouth head :shock: has managed to string a sentence together without swearing :lol:
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Christies Child » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:08 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:Shrimpy is warm, but not correct.


Have you heard that directly Lee?, or was it relayed via somebody's dad.... ;) ;)
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby mrpotatohead » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:56 pm

Ouch baby! ......that really hurt! :lol:
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Christies Child » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:41 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:Ouch baby! ......that really hurt! :lol:


I'll bring the sticking plaster at the next SADARSE's... ;)
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby KenH » Tue Jun 07, 2016 7:58 am

Gone_Shrimping wrote:
Seasider9601 wrote:
Shrimpy wrote:If we've sold off all the sellable clubs assets and PMG / the directors don't have the money to keep plugging the £500k+ a year losses out of their own pockets then I'd be more concerned with the club going bust than whether we should be sacking the first team manager.


I've been saying this for ages. I've said before that my biggest fear is of us ending up like (the old) Darlington FC.

ie, move to a new ground, fanbase dwindles rapidly, owner deserts, loses Football League status, plays in Conference, club goes bang, starts again right down the football pyramid.

I'm worried about this scenario.........

NOW.


We could do with the ownership issue resolving as soon as possible.

At the fans forum PMG said there was major interest from a potential investor and there were 2 or 3 other potential investors on the sidelines. He said there could be an announcement within weeks.

Then it was announced that he was putting the club up for sale so that the club could have a budget for the manager to work with in the Summer. Presumably this was to see if any other potential investors wanted to come in and raise the stakes. Has this move led to the other investor withdrawing his offer ?

Hopefully some positive news soon 8-) 8-)


Anyone else starting to get really worried about the lack of news regarding investors or a buyer?

Back in April, PMG was expecting an announcement "within weeks" and then said he was putting it up for sale to try and get a better deal. All in the name of a budget for Jim in the Summer. Well, surely Jim needs to know his revised budget NOW, otherwise he'll be losing Miller as well as Devitt and won't have the money to bring in like-for-like replacements for those who've gone, let alone better replacements. If the deal ever happens, it may be too late and Jim's targets may have been snapped up by other clubs.

How many times have we heard PMG suggest "deals within weeks", then more recently, it's been mid-may, then end-may, now mid-june. Is anything actually happening or is it wishful thinking?

I'm starting to think that they were empty promises just to get people to renew their season tickets so the club can pay the wages/overheads over the Summer.

After all, a board member supposedly denied that the 14/15 season made a £900k loss which then turned out to be remarkably close to the truth!

I really hope I'm wrong.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:34 am

Is there any date yet for the AGM or EGM ?
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby Shrimpy » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:35 am

KenH wrote:Anyone else starting to get really worried about the lack of news regarding investors or a buyer?

Back in April, PMG was expecting an announcement "within weeks" and then said he was putting it up for sale to try and get a better deal. All in the name of a budget for Jim in the Summer. Well, surely Jim needs to know his revised budget NOW, otherwise he'll be losing Miller as well as Devitt and won't have the money to bring in like-for-like replacements for those who've gone, let alone better replacements. If the deal ever happens, it may be too late and Jim's targets may have been snapped up by other clubs.

How many times have we heard PMG suggest "deals within weeks", then more recently, it's been mid-may, then end-may, now mid-june. Is anything actually happening or is it wishful thinking?

I'm starting to think that they were empty promises just to get people to renew their season tickets so the club can pay the wages/overheads over the Summer.

After all, a board member supposedly denied that the 14/15 season made a £900k loss which then turned out to be remarkably close to the truth!

I really hope I'm wrong.

The amount of broken promises / misleading info we've had to swallow from the board of directors since the ground move is staggering.

You've mentioned a few above and you can add the development behind the back of the home end, the whole Chinese / Shanghai Clever thing. The "we'll be breaking even in 3 years" promise which ended with us posting a £800k loss and I'm sure many more that I've forgotten about.
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Re: If PMG can't sell..

Postby black morse » Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:50 am

Talk of Jim getting like for like replacements for Devitt (and Miller if/when he goes) is a case of 'in your dreams'. It's beginning to look as if a sale is not going to happen :cry:

The thing I can't understand is that if the playing budget is really being slashed from a low budget to start with how have we ended up with Windess? He was offered terms by Accy so we must have capped that.
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