Club Thread morphed from Blackpool Shrimp

[marky No.1]

If the sale goes through , I would expect there will be ''new brooms'' in other areas.

Blimey, can we not use the ones we already have, seems a waste to throw them away

[Posh]

Posh the figures just do not stack up, even someone with limited financial or business acumen can see that it is impossible that the budget has fallen by such levels, unless other wages and salaries have increased dramatically since 2011 - i.e. we are now spending twice as much on hospitality wages. Can that really have happened?

Hypothetically, if the playing budget was 75% of total wages and salaries, if Sammy had a budget then which is 70% higher than Jim's, then other wages and salaries at the club have increased by £430,000 using those factual figures. Do you really believe that is true?

We all know that the budget has been cut but I don't believe that it has been cut by as much as you are suggesting, even if you may have been sold a false one by a director.

I agree the club is in a mess, I agree we can't afford to get rid of Jim, I want Jim to succeed as much as you do. But this is not a meaningless and pointless debate just because it does not suit your agenda. There has been lots of comparisons between this season with Jim and Sammy's last and it is right for me to challenge you on stuff you are saying without real fact or basis.

I've learnt over many years not to believe the headline figures in any company accounts. Due diligence, if anyone is actually doing it, will bring out the true picture.

[Morecambe Jack]

[Gone_Shrimping]

PMG said after we won 3-0 at Wimbledon at the end of 2013/2014 season that Jim's budget would be increased in 2014/2015. We await the accounts for the 2014/15 season which are due to be file by late May.

[Gone_Shrimping]

I have copies of the accounts that have a detailed P & L Account which may shed more light on the playing budget claims.

The Expense of "Direct Wages - Players Salaries and Expenses" are as follows for the last four years for which accounts have been published including Sammy's last season 2010/2011

Year ended 31 May 2011 £1,185,895 Sammy's last season
Year ended 31 May 2012 £1,169,345 Jim's first season
Year ended 31 May 2013 £1,059,867
Year ended 31 May 2014 £901,543

I believe these figures do not include Social Security costs (Employers N.I.)

These would suggest that the budget has not been slashed as dramatically as some have suggested.

[outsider]

£284000 + is 1/4 less roughly. So I would say slashed as the cost of living and wages have risen over the last 5 years.

[Freez]

And it's rumoured to be slightly less again this season.
So say 300k.

Five players on 60k?

That's a stronger squad for a start, spent wisely!

[John L]

Any chance of changing the thread title?

[George Dawes]

I have copies of the accounts that have a detailed P & L Account which may shed more light on the playing budget claims.

The Expense of "Direct Wages - Players Salaries and Expenses" are as follows for the last four years for which accounts have been published including Sammy's last season 2010/2011

Year ended 31 May 2011 £1,185,895 Sammy's last season
Year ended 31 May 2012 £1,169,345 Jim's first season
Year ended 31 May 2013 £1,059,867
Year ended 31 May 2014 £901,543

I believe these figures do not include Social Security costs (Employers N.I.)

These would suggest that the budget has not been slashed as dramatically as some have suggested.

nah, not as bad as some suggested.

and a thread in here said Accrington Stanley's at the start of this season was about £600.000?

[Posh]

£284000 + is 1/4 less roughly. So I would say slashed as the cost of living and wages have risen over the last 5 years.

Also doesn't take account of agents' fees and signing on fees.

[Freez]

From memory, ourselves, Accy, Daggers and Newport have posted the lowest playing budgets at the start of the season.
Accy's reputedly was only slightly higher than ours, Daggers is similar, Newport about 100k higher.

Newport backed Feeney and increased theirs before Xmas to secure their place.
Accy also considerably increased theirs, with quite a few shrewd loan signings which have paid off. However they have also bought a couple of fields for a new training ground and the new stand plans have been passed, so quite a bit of both on and off the field going on there.
Daggers have appointed Still, his hands have been tied really.

Conlan, McKnight, O'Hara, Stockton and Oliver all have come to us with very little cost!

We are in limbo, on and off field.

[marky No.1]

F@ck it we are on a jolly tomorrow, that's the only way to keep sane.
As for next year