France Euro 2016 O/T

[George Dawes]

why are we just playing the ball out wide and crossing the ball into the box? it's just bread n butter for Icelandic defenders

[fulwoodshrimp]

Another masterclass from Roy Hodgson. Tactically inept, poorly organised and persisting in selecting players who throughout the tournament have been poor. Stirling and Kane do not look like international players and Joe Hart's weakness on his left side is awful. We have been beaten by a country with no professional clubs!!

[George Dawes]

just like Brazil 2yrs ago, should have decided the best formation and best 11 before going into these tournaments


Fall on your Sword Roy!!, I'd have sacked you after Brazil.

[BoroRedShrimp]

England have been poor from the start of the tournament. We were lucky to get through the group in the first place. Hart should never have started as he has made mistake after mistake in France. Vardy should have been on from the start. Woy your time is up. Think Eddie Howe is worth a chance. Done a fantastic job at Bournemouth in a short space of time.

[Christies Child]

Overpaid crap. The Premier League is full of overseas players stopping any progression for our talented youngsters.

As the commentators said, no system, no ideas and no heart. Rooney was awful and why did it take 85 minutes before Rashford came on.

Out of EC and now out of European Champs. The French will be lapping it up.

Who will take over is anybodies guess but whoever it is he can only play with who he's got. And he's got sod all.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Overpaid crap. The Premier League is full of overseas players stopping any progression for our talented youngsters.

As the commentators said, no system, no ideas and no heart. Rooney was awful and why did it take 85 minutes before Rashford came on.

Out of EC and now out of European Champs. The French will be lapping it up.

Who will take over is anybodies guess but whoever it is he can only play with who he's got. And he's got sod all.

These are premier league players who play for some of the top clubs so they should be performing better. Eddie Howe deserves it, proved he can work on a small budget and manages to find talent. Neville or Southgate would not be my choice like Wright thinks.

[Christies Child]

England manager has called it a day. No way could he stay after that load of crap.

Our Premier League players are overshadowed by their overseas team mates.

[FattyFoulke]

England have been poor from the start of the tournament. We were lucky to get through the group in the first place. Hart should never have started as he has made mistake after mistake in France. Vardy should have been on from the start. Woy your time is up. Think Eddie Howe is worth a chance. Done a fantastic job at Bournemouth in a short space of time.

Eddie Howe is a great shout.

Still leaning towards Hoddle though...

[Wild Bill]

Shockingly bad. Hart is crap at the mo but we should have been able to give them a three goal head start and still come back. Instead Roy picked a poorly balanced team and backed out of form players. Half time was a perfect chance to mix things up but his only move was to throw another player that shouldn't have been in the squad and we mustered one shot on goal.

Fans will blame the players but the manager has to carry the can. Should have never have got the job over Harry and certainly gone after the dross in Brazil. Not sure who should we should go for next but it definitely shouldn't be Southgate.

[seasonsinthesun]

The football team took its "inspiration" from the country's decision to leave the EU.
They decided to leave Europe too.

[Teams like Morecambe]

Harry Redknapp has described Gareth Southgate being favourite for the England job as 'scary'. Completely agree with this, what has he actually achieved? Got Middlesbrough relegated then coached a group of teenagers for a few years. Full clearout needed, get rid of Neville and the rest and start again.

[Christies Child]

Overpaid crap. The Premier League is full of overseas players stopping any progression for our talented youngsters.

As the commentators said, no system, no ideas and no heart. Rooney was awful and why did it take 85 minutes before Rashford came on.

Out of EC and now out of European Champs. The French will be lapping it up.

Who will take over is anybodies guess but whoever it is he can only play with who he's got. And he's got sod all.

These are premier league players who play for some of the top clubs so they should be performing better. Eddie Howe deserves it, proved he can work on a small budget and manages to find talent. Neville or Southgate would not be my choice like Wright thinks.

The ability to work on a small budget has got nothing to do with whether he should be the next manager. Budgets don't count in such a position. What does count is the managers tactical awareness and his or her ability to have the respect and confidence of the players called upon. He'll not even be in the reckoning for the job but for me a manager like Burnley's would be the ideal candidate with a new and fresh outlook on the role. Unfortunately I fear that the FA will rely on the trusted but failed formulae and select someone who has internal connections and is a member of the 'club'....

[mrpotatohead]

Sean Dyche wouldn't entertain it, he loves the day to day involvement and after this season I would expect him to be in the frame for a top prem job, a move to the England position from Burnley would be at best, a ''sideways'' move

[RedRedWine]

I do not want Gary Neville anywhere near the England setup. He needs to prove in club management that he is a tactically astute coach and not just a gobshite, because at both Valencia and England he has been found wanting.

Personally I blame the methodology behind squad selection for our latest failings. Roy and his staff have selected what they deemed to be the best players in the country and then tried to impose a formation/structure upon them that they don't play at club level on the international stage. Which premier league team plays 4-3-3 with wing-backs and a CF in the middle? Stick with what we know.

Wayne Rooney is possibly the most overrated player to ever pull on an England shirt. I have no doubt that he will continue to play against minnows (that we now can't beat!) collecting caps and extending his excellent goalscoring record against the likes of San Marino and Andorra, but in the big games he goes missing and it is about time he steps aside and lets somebody else have a go.

[Christies Child]

I do not want Gary Neville anywhere near the England setup. He needs to prove in club management that he is a tactically astute coach and not just a gobshite, because at both Valencia and England he has been found wanting.

Personally I blame the methodology behind squad selection for our latest failings. Roy and his staff have selected what they deemed to be the best players in the country and then tried to impose a formation/structure upon them that they don't play at club level on the international stage. Which premier league team plays 4-3-3 with wing-backs and a CF in the middle? Stick with what we know.

Wayne Rooney is possibly the most overrated player to ever pull on an England shirt. I have no doubt that he will continue to play against minnows (that we now can't beat!) collecting caps and extending his excellent goalscoring record against the likes of San Marino and Andorra, but in the big games he goes missing and it is about time he steps aside and lets somebody else have a go.

Nearly agree with everything that RRW says. For me the problem has been that the team lacked structure, a method of play and too many square pegs in round holes...in other words the players had to play in roles that were completely opposite to their club roles.

Get players in and play them in the roles they have gained selection in.

Rooney can't head the ball so why was he marking the man who the long throws of Iceland where aimed at. Bloody stupid.

[mrpotatohead]

''Rooney can't head the ball'' ffs, what planet are you on CC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOV7LYiGI8E

[Christies Child]

''Rooney can't head the ball'' ffs, what planet are you on CC?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOV7LYiGI8E

Funny how the BBC panel post Iceland said exactly the same thing about the inability of Rooney to head a ball particularly in a defensive position which he should not have been in last night.

And as for the planet jibe.....

[Wild Bill]

Lets hope they try and get someone who has actually won a major tournament and not give losers like Southgate or Neville a go. The only reason I could see them in the running would be they would fall into line with the FA like Roy did. Failing that, why not give Harry Redkapp a go. He might not be the best tactician but he would get them playing as a team and in a formation that works.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Overpaid crap. The Premier League is full of overseas players stopping any progression for our talented youngsters.

As the commentators said, no system, no ideas and no heart. Rooney was awful and why did it take 85 minutes before Rashford came on.

Out of EC and now out of European Champs. The French will be lapping it up.

Who will take over is anybodies guess but whoever it is he can only play with who he's got. And he's got sod all.

These are premier league players who play for some of the top clubs so they should be performing better. Eddie Howe deserves it, proved he can work on a small budget and manages to find talent. Neville or Southgate would not be my choice like Wright thinks.

The ability to work on a small budget has got nothing to do with whether he should be the next manager. Budgets don't count in such a position. What does count is the managers tactical awareness and his or her ability to have the respect and confidence of the players called upon. He'll not even be in the reckoning for the job but for me a manager like Burnley's would be the ideal candidate with a new and fresh outlook on the role. Unfortunately I fear that the FA will rely on the trusted but failed formulae and select someone who has internal connections and is a member of the 'club'....

Load of tosh, Eddie Howe deserves the chance than anybody, he has done wonders at Bournemouth in a short space of time. If not for him they would never have made the premiership. Sean Dyche good at championship level but not proven enough at premiership level. Actually they got relegated, so Eddie Howe has done enough last season to be considered. What does count is bringing the right players in which Eddie Howe has proven when winning the championship. He has worked on a small budget but has a keen eye for bringing young talent in which he could prove at England, that is why he is 16/1 to take the England job. Other candidates who are proven to take England forward are Allardyce & Steve Bruce.

[RedRedWine]

If Eddie Howe didn't get the Cherries promoted the season they went up, they would've found themselves under a transfer embargo like Nottingham Forest were for posting big financial losses. I think Eddie Howe has done well, but I think there is more than meets the eye at Bournemouth. Don't forget Howe also managed Burnley, and achieved far less than Sean Dyche has done so far IMO.

Slaven Bilic is my pick.

[George Dawes]

want a former England player as next manager, somebody who knows the hurt.

[seasonsinthesun]

The next manager is a distraction from the real problems.
There were no leaders on the pitch on Monday night. Nobody took responsibility and to coin an old fashioned term "rolled their sleeves up".
Even though England teams of the past didn't actually win anything (apart from 1966), the teams of the 1990 World Cup and Euro 1996 who got to the semis had commitment and passion and some decent players, but also some guts, like Pearce, Adams, Shearer etc.
The modern day English players in the Premier League are far too soft IMO, and the teams they play for are only successful due to the foreign players who probably make them look better than they really are.
But look at Germany, Italy, France, and even Iceland. They all have a system to play to, a game plan, organisation, commitment, desire, expecting to win not just hoping.
England have none of that.

[Zip It Shrimpy]

why are we just playing the ball out wide and crossing the ball into the box? :

Maybe they learned that from the BREXIT campaign.

[marky No.1]

It's sh!t for the 100's of Welsh fans stuck in Folkestone. Some have been there 6 hours and in tears!
They did vote out I suppose

[Teams like Morecambe]

It's sh!t for the 100's of Welsh fans stuck in Folkestone. Some have been there 6 hours and in tears!
They did vote out I suppose

I was all for delaying the Plymouth game when their fans were stuck in traffic. Wasn't much sympathy for them on here, 'should have set off earlier' was the verdict.