O/T The New Road

[RapidShrimp]

It should improve things... Yes... But who knows with the council at the moment. They may not even have it finished by next Summer......

[marky No.1]

£16M+ overspend - just Wow!

http://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news ... -1-8056479

[marky No.1]

Just been over the new Lune bridge. Took a while in the floodwater to raelise I wasn't in the river and to find the entrance to the M6, cone carnage!
The slip road is now 500 yards instead of 20 which is good

[Christies Child]

The new road junction at the exit of the motorway will become a traffic bottleneck.

When will traffic planners realise that a large roundabout is the common sense solution.

This country has gone traffic light mad whilst others are actually reducing them.

The number of traffic lights at that junction is incredible.

[morecambegeek]

Perhaps because on roundabouts everyone hS the same priority where at traffic lights busier roads can be given priority to let more traffic through.

[Christies Child]

I always thought that priority on a roundabout had to be given to those on the right.....

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/changes- ... oundabouts

Section 185

[Lonesome Prawn]

I seem to remember an article somewhere saying there wasn't sufficient land area to build a roundabout to the correct design dimensions. You could check this with the DfT Design Manual for Road & Bridgeworks - I would but can't be ar*ed.
The traffic signals will have been designed by computer modelling of expected traffic flows to ensure queue lengths are acceptable, and the signals themselves will be equipped with sensors to respond automatically to different flow patterns by maximising "green" times as needed to reduce queuing.

[Christies Child]

I seem to remember an article somewhere saying there wasn't sufficient land area to build a roundabout to the correct design dimensions. You could check this with the DfT Design Manual for Road & Bridgeworks - I would but can't be ar*ed.
The traffic signals will have been designed by computer modelling of expected traffic flows to ensure queue lengths are acceptable, and the signals themselves will be equipped with sensors to respond automatically to different flow patterns by maximising "green" times as needed to reduce queuing.

Plenty of arguements for and against roundabouts in place of traffic lights. My preference is roundabouts but I accept that others will have a different view.

Interestingly the States are doing away with traffic lights and replacing them with roundabouts whilst here in the UK the opposite is happening.

[parceldave]

Access to the M6 southbound on Caton Rd has been flowing quite well recently , up until the introduction of those bladdy stupid traffic lights which are totally set wrong .

Why if you are going North or straight on to Caton and southbound M6 does all the traffic have to stop when other traffic is exiting the new slip road going into Lancaster, the only traffic that needs to stop is those coming from Caton at the moment.

[parceldave]

I seem to remember an article somewhere saying there wasn't sufficient land area to build a roundabout to the correct design dimensions. You could check this with the DfT Design Manual for Road & Bridgeworks - I would but can't be ar*ed.
The traffic signals will have been designed by computer modelling of expected traffic flows to ensure queue lengths are acceptable, and the signals themselves will be equipped with sensors to respond automatically to different flow patterns by maximising "green" times as needed to reduce queuing.

If only

[Christies Child]

Mustn't argue with traffic flow planners who always know best......

[morecambegeek]

who always know best......

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

[morecambegeek]

I always thought that priority on a roundabout had to be given to those on the right.....

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/changes- ... oundabouts

Section 185

Well, thanks for the driving lesson. But, not for the first time, you are missing the point - on a roundabout, all roads have the same priority, regardless of the amount of traffic moving through the roads. A set of light can let more cars pass from the busy roads than a roundabout can.

I think the traffic going past the college has improved since they've taken the roundabout away and replaced it with lights.

[Keith]

Access to the M6 southbound on Caton Rd has been flowing quite well recently , up until the introduction of those bladdy stupid traffic lights which are totally set wrong .

Why if you are going North or straight on to Caton and southbound M6 does all the traffic have to stop when other traffic is exiting the new slip road going into Lancaster, the only traffic that needs to stop is those coming from Caton at the moment.

Absolutely Last Tuesday I drove up from Liverpool for the match. No problems at all until I got on to the slip road off the M6 and came upon those lights. At one point, they let one car and one HGV out before they went back to red. We were queuing on the slip road for nearly 30 minutes. I got off the M6 cleanly but within a few minutes there must have been traffic backed up on to the motorway, all because of the lights. I bet the computer simulation is based upon two lanes of traffic on the slip road, so with one lane coned off, it messes up the configuration?

[P/T Indie]

I went across the new bridge last week (didn't even know I was open) and up the new north bound slip road I was really impressed although it took a while to get my bearings.

Talking of coned off areas when on earth are they going to finish Morecambe Rd nothing has happened on there for ages.

[MFC-Manc]

I cannot wait for this road to open, the last few weeks the traffic has been terrible.

[Gone_Shrimping]

The club are looking into the possibility of having one of those brown tourism industry signs on the M6 advising motorists that you can come down the Bay Gateway to the Globe Arena.

[bill ding]

Surely that's a must have sign , as you drive round the country you regularly see the brown signs for football grounds . Been even more impressive if the road had been called the Globe Gateway

[John L]

The club are looking into the possibility of having one of those brown tourism industry signs on the M6 advising motorists that you can come down the Bay Gateway to the Globe Arena.

It'd be interesting to know how much it costs, should the club decide against it.

[Seasider9601]

There's a new multi-million pound investment being put into re-vamping Heysham Port starting next week too on the strength of the new bypass being opened.

[parceldave]

Surely that's a must have sign , as you drive round the country you regularly see the brown signs for football grounds . Been even more impressive if the road had been called the Globe Gateway

Well with the those stupid traffic lights on Caton Rd , people will certainly have time to read those Brown signs along with being able to complete the Times crossword .

Accessing the M6 southbound and exiting the M6 at Caton Rd is worse now than its ever been , twice last week queueing back as far as Skerton bridge to get on M6 and as far back as Prison to exit on to Caton Rd , going to Carnforth being much quicker .

[parceldave]

There's a new multi-million pound investment being put into re-vamping Heysham Port starting next week too on the strength of the new bypass being opened.

Are they building a new runway for transporter planes so the HGV's can avoid Caton Rd .

[Seasider9601]

going to Carnforth being much quicker .

My chosen route every morning and evening!

Even though I live in Heysham and travel South everyday I do that route!!

[KenH]

I cannot wait for this road to open, the last few weeks the traffic has been terrible.

I cannot wait for this road to open, the last 30 years the traffic has been terrible. I remember being stuck in traffic on Morecambe Road every morning back in the mid 80s. It's the main reason I left that job and worked in Kendal instead - quicker to get to Kendal than Lancaster. It's also the main reason I set up my business 15 years ago in Carnforth rather than Lancaster. I've avoided the place like the plague for most of my adult life!

[KenH]

going to Carnforth being much quicker .

My chosen route every morning and evening!

Even though I live in Heysham and travel South everyday I do that route!!

One of the unintended benefits will be that Morecambe's prom, coastal road, carnforth and the country roads around Slyne, Bolton Le Sands, Halton and Nether Kellett will be a lot quieter when people start using the bypass to get to/from the motorway rather than the Carnforth junction. Can't wait!