Morecambe 1 [Ellison] v Orient 2

[halftimeresults]

Not got a problem with today's defeat
We know we are gonna a lose games, I just want us to give it 100% which we did.

[shrimpinho]

+1 with halftime.

We tried to play the ball on the deck throughout the game. Orient were just an average physical team, nothing special, but did a job.

Onwards to Donny

[MFC-Manc]

Orient had a game plan and we couldn't deal with it. Not sure what turner brings to the game, he was absent at bury on Tuesday and not much of a sub today(hope he proves me wrong). McGowan has the most unusual technique I've seen, instead of simple clearances he seems to do a backflip and donkey kick the ball......

[Phil Anderer]

I think some people are being overly harsh on our lads. It was a typical Hessenthaler side - dirty, cheating ba&£ards, and the ref was weak in the first half, and while I'm not directly accusing, he was highly inconsistent in the second half, with Orient getting by far the better treatment. We were pulled back for free kicks instead of playing advantage, their lad got away with a dangerous challenge and seconds later we were penalised for a similar offence. Also, in spite of all the time-wasting, he blew the final whistle before the full 4 minutes were up. As for the lack of a penalty... It was also as if Hessenthaler gauged the ref in the first half then told his lads not to worry about him and get stuck in second half. We applauded our lads off the field because they deserved it. Maybe not the best they'll play this season, but their heads didn't go down.

[shrimpnsave]

We weren't at the races today and it showed Phil
Agree with the ref comment thou

[seasonsinthesun]

I thought Jim got his substitution decisions wrong today.
I wouldn't have taken Dunn or Stockton off, Barkhuizen had a very poor game and McGowan struggled all afternoon and Mullin is not the type of player to change a game IMO.
I would have put Mussanka on when we were chasing the game alongside Stockton, Dunn made the play for Ellison to score our goal and looked the most likely to do something.

[Morecambe Jack]

You'd put a player on that you've never seen, but Jim got it wrong?

Thought they were a well organised side that passed the ball much better than us on the day, but were not particularly anything special. Good goal from Kev to get back in it, but poor to concede again they way we did. Referee had a stinker. We were not at our best today, but it was still quite an enjoyable game - a far cry from some of the bore fests we have watched over the last couple of seasons.

A week without a game is welcome as some of them looked knackered- Kev aside of course who looked like he was 21 again.

[seasonsinthesun]

You'd put a player on that you've never seen, but Jim got it wrong?

Thought they were a well organised side that passed the ball much better than us on the day, but were not particularly anything special. Good goal from Kev to get back in it, but poor to concede again they way we did. Referee had a stinker. We were not at our best today, but it was still quite an enjoyable game - a far cry from some of the bore fests we have watched over the last couple of seasons.

A week without a game is welcome as some of them looked knackered- Kev aside of course who looked like he was 21 again.

My point was that there were about ten minutes left when Mullin came on.
Show me a match where Mullin has been a game changer in the past. I can't think of one!
We had nothing to lose at that stage, put Mussanka on, after all why then has Jim brought him here?
Not to play?
You say the referee had a stinker?
Why? Because you're biased towards Morecambe and expect lots of decisions to go our way?
You say the players looked knackered?
They shouldn't be, they don't work eight, nine or ten hour workdays like most of us do!

[Morecambe Jack]

Someone's a bit touchy.

My point was, it is easy for you with hindsight to tell Jim he got it all wrong and should have brought on Massanka who none of us yet know anything about, rather than Mullin, just because Mullin didn't come on and score.

The ref had a stinker because he was inconsistent in his decisions and didn't let the game flow, including stopping play when he could have let us play on.

I didn't say the players should look knackered, but some did look knackered. We have a small squad and some of them are not used to playing 2 games a week for a month, yet.

[seasonsinthesun]

Yes, fair points.
I have seen better referees than today's if I'm honest.
I wouldn't have said anything if Mullin had got the equaliser would I?
I guess it was just a frustrating afternoon.
But as you say, it was an entertaining game, better to watch than many last season.

[Trevor]

Their centre back had his arms right round Stockton in the box dragging him away from the ball. Nothing. Ten minutes later, similar but not as obvious near the sideline, free kick. Grrr!

[Christies Child]

Beaten by a technically better team than us yesterday but their time wasting tactics whilst annoying achieved their desired effect that to frustrate us and lead to poor decision making on our part and in overall management of the game.

Having said that we played into their hands by persisting with the high balls to our wide men which their 6'+ defenders coped with far better than we did with their runners both from midfield and on the wings.

Once again Fleming (and not for the first time this season) had a hand in both their goals. That's now 4 to date this season. The first when his miscued clearance fell to the goal scorer whose shot took a wicked bounce just in front of Baz resulting in Baz letting the ball squirm underneath his body and the second goal came about following a vain attempt at a slide tackle by Fleming which resulted in his man taking a shot for goal that took a wicked deflection off Whitmore that wrong footed Baz.

If fellow SVers don't accept my observations, take a look at the replays...

Our strikers where well marshalled by the Orient defence and for me didn't put enough pressure on them until the last 10 minutes by which time out play had become desperate in search of an equaliser.

Have to agree that Jimbo's substitutions came too late and the inclusion of Mullers was never going to win the day as he wasn't given enough game time to be effective.

Loosing top spot is annoying but not the end of the world so early in the season. I just hope that it's not the start of a steady decline in league position because for me we haven't really controlled any of our games to date despite some excellent results with backs to the wall performances particularly in the first 45 minutes of games.

[marky No.1]

Why was Jim so angry after the game as he looked over his left shoulder towards the stand? He appeared to be trying to catch someones eye as he clapped the players off the pitch

[jon MFC fan]

They players will learn but yesterday Fleming annoyed me by not closing down the guy who scored first and I said to my dad that he should be replaced by Kenyon which happened which we had a better midfield as we wasn't getting pushed around

[Gone_Shrimping]

They players will learn but yesterday Fleming annoyed me by not closing down the guy who scored first and I said to my dad that he should be replaced by Kenyon which happened which we had a better midfield as we wasn't getting pushed around

I am really looking forward to seeing a fit Peter Murphy in our midfield.

We really need some more game management to go with that added by Michael Rose.

I would have fancied him to get something in the last few minutes with one of his famous forays into the opposition penalty area.

[sandgrown]

Beaten by a technically better team than us yesterday but their time wasting tactics whilst annoying achieved their desired effect that to frustrate us and lead to poor decision making on our part and in overall management of the game.

Having said that we played into their hands by persisting with the high balls to our wide men which their 6'+ defenders coped with far better than we did with their runners both from midfield and on the wings.

Once again Fleming (and not for the first time this season) had a hand in both their goals. That's now 4 to date this season. The first when his miscued clearance fell to the goal scorer whose shot took a wicked bounce just in front of Baz resulting in Baz letting the ball squirm underneath his body and the second goal came about following a vain attempt at a slide tackle by Fleming which resulted in his man taking a shot for goal that took a wicked deflection off Whitmore that wrong footed Baz.

If fellow SVers don't accept my observations, take a look at the replays...

Our strikers where well marshalled by the Orient defence and for me didn't put enough pressure on them until the last 10 minutes by which time out play had become desperate in search of an equaliser.

Have to agree that Jimbo's substitutions came too late and the inclusion of Mullers was never going to win the day as he wasn't given enough game time to be effective.

Loosing top spot is annoying but not the end of the world so early in the season. I just hope that it's not the start of a steady decline in league position because for me we haven't really controlled any of our games to date despite some excellent results with backs to the wall performances particularly in the first 45 minutes of games.

for me Fleming had a poor game losing possession too many times as per their goals

[Jettyson]

Fleming was out of his depth in a physical game;Mullin imo isn't good enough.
Hoofing the ball into the laps of their defenders didn't work yet we persisted. they had done their homework and played to a plan.

[Freez]

On a day when we needed pace Tom had an off day!!

[Kendalshrimp]

Stay positive guys we've played and beat the best side in this division already yesterday was a bad day at the office. We'll have more days like yesterday through out the season but after what I've seen so far I'm confident of a good season ahead !

[Aspers]

We showed against Bournemouth in the last 10 mins what we are capable of but unfortunately against the O's I don't think we turned up. Referee far too inconsistent and when they went 2-1 up, they parked the bus and unfortunately we couldn't get through it. Their goals were both lucky, but Kev's was world class!!. I honestly think we should've won, We'll play worse than this and win, 2nd in this tin pot league looking forward to early mornings in Sydney when I get back. I promise I won't come again until we're already assured of something

[parceldave]

On a day when we needed pace Tom had an off day!!

That's the problem with having such a small squad in that we haven't got a plan B.

[seasonsinthesun]

That was the point I was making the other day.....that Barkhuizen was having a quiet game,especially in the second half and I was surprised he wasn't substituted when both Dunn and Stockton who had played reasonably well,were taken off.

[Jettyson]

"That was the point I was making the other day.....that Barkhuizen was having a quiet game,especially in the second half and I was surprised he wasn't substituted when both Dunn and Stockton who had played reasonably well,were taken off."

Yes he was having a poor game, but can change the game in seconds; one of few players we have capable of that.
The subs however did leave me bafflled as leaving aside Flem/Kenyon it weakened the team imo.