A plea to the true fans

Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby SupermarketShrimp » Mon Nov 07, 2016 4:11 pm

Seasider9601 wrote:
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Christies Child wrote:.....ooops...also forgot away travel costs, overnight accommodation, players travel expenses, academy costs.....and a number of other expenses that a full time football club has to find.....basically it looks like we've done well to still be around.

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People may have been telling you this for years Neil!


For may, read HAVE. :(


Well, me being one of them!
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Christies Child » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:08 pm

I was just proving the case to our fellow die hard fan Fulwood Shrimp....who was asking the question about Gate Money to pay the players....that the money from gates alone doesn't go anywhere near the monthly outgoings of our great club.

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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:18 pm

So Neil , you must concede we cannot afford to pay off the management team that you, and 11 per cent of our fans, want rid of ?
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Christies Child » Mon Nov 07, 2016 5:48 pm

mrpotatohead wrote:So Neil , you must concede we cannot afford to pay off the management team that you, and 11 per cent of our fans, want rid of ?



Some would say that with ever decreasing gates (due to lack of entertainment.... ) that the club need to look seriously at the reasons.....and act accordingly before it's too late.

No business would continue to survive if its product or service wasn't a saleable proposition. Football is no different.

The survival of our club is more important than any individual(s) no matter how legendary their status may be.

Believe me, I genuinely want our management team to turn things around....the question is 'can they..' even if( :?: ) money is made available come the New Year.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Keith » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:22 pm

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mrpotatohead wrote:So Neil , you must concede we cannot afford to pay off the management team that you, and 11 per cent of our fans, want rid of ?



Some would say that with ever decreasing gates (due to lack of entertainment.... ) that the club need to look seriously at the reasons.....and act accordingly before it's too late.

No business would continue to survive if its product or service wasn't a saleable proposition. Football is no different.

The survival of our club is more important than any individual(s) no matter how legendary their status may be.

Believe me, I genuinely want our management team to turn things around....the question is 'can they..' even if( :?: ) money is made available come the New Year.


I think the point is, you'd have to find the best part of 18 months salary to pay them off. Where are you planning on getting that cash from?
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby black morse » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:34 pm

I really don't understand all this. It has been stated on SV's for months that the club is losing big money every week so how come Lemos comes along, buys the club (we think), advertises for youth academy coaches and doesn't have the money to pay the players without (possibly ) having to sell someone. If we new the club was running at a big loss how come he didn't? If something else has suddenly appeared in the accounts which wasn't obvious before where has it suddenly come from? Even if you could have afforded to buy the club, unless you were already a long time fan, would any of you have done so unless you had loads of money to cover things until the club could be turned round? You'd have to be a real gambler because the odds would be enormously stacked against you.

I'm not one who thinks the board should tell us all the facts as that could do more harm than good but I have to admit to being very puzzled and even more worried.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:43 pm

black morse wrote:I really don't understand all this. It has been stated on SV's for months that the club is losing big money every week so how come Lemos comes along, buys the club (we think), advertises for youth academy coaches and doesn't have the money to pay the players without (possibly ) having to sell someone. If we new the club was running at a big loss how come he didn't? If something else has suddenly appeared in the accounts which wasn't obvious before where has it suddenly come from? Even if you could have afforded to buy the club, unless you were already a long time fan, would any of you have done so unless you had loads of money to cover things until the club could be turned round? You'd have to be a real gambler because the odds would be enormously stacked against you.

I'm not one who thinks the board should tell us all the facts as that could do more harm than good but I have to admit to being very puzzled and even more worried.



I think it was Gordon Taylor form the PFA who mentioned selling a player. It was pointed out to him that with the transfer window closed that couldn't be done.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby black morse » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:47 pm

Gone_Shrimping wrote:
black morse wrote:I really don't understand all this. It has been stated on SV's for months that the club is losing big money every week so how come Lemos comes along, buys the club (we think), advertises for youth academy coaches and doesn't have the money to pay the players without (possibly ) having to sell someone. If we new the club was running at a big loss how come he didn't? If something else has suddenly appeared in the accounts which wasn't obvious before where has it suddenly come from? Even if you could have afforded to buy the club, unless you were already a long time fan, would any of you have done so unless you had loads of money to cover things until the club could be turned round? You'd have to be a real gambler because the odds would be enormously stacked against you.

I'm not one who thinks the board should tell us all the facts as that could do more harm than good but I have to admit to being very puzzled and even more worried.



I think it was Gordon Taylor form the PFA who mentioned selling a player. It was pointed out to him that with the transfer window closed that couldn't be done.


It still proves that we (Mr Lemos) have no money if the PFA suggested it in order to get their money back.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby halftimeresults » Mon Nov 07, 2016 6:56 pm

What if
Diego is the middle man and doing the running about for the money man.
It turns out that the club have not been honest in the deal and the money man is pulling out.
Diego is still trying to convince the money man to change his mind.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Freez » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:02 pm

Interesting? Based on what evidence??
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Gone_Shrimping » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:08 pm

Were either Diego or Abdul at the match yesterday ?
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby mrpotatohead » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:13 pm

You mean somebody who can't take the position of chairman themselves , a bit like what happened at chester a few years ago?

Thats a bit unlikely, I mean , we wouldn't want someone like Peter Harrison owning the club ,would we?
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby black morse » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:17 pm

halftimeresults wrote:What if
Diego is the middle man and doing the running about for the money man.
It turns out that the club have not been honest in the deal and the money man is pulling out.
Diego is still trying to convince the money man to change his mind.


Perhaps we ought to write a thriller based on this for ITV. That might get us a few quid :lol: :lol:
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby halftimeresults » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:27 pm

Freez wrote:Interesting? Based on what evidence??

Calm down Tiger
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby halftimeresults » Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:28 pm

Gone_Shrimping wrote:Were either Diego or Abdul at the match yesterday ?

Diego was
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Christies Minder » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:09 pm

Turned up in a brand new white Range Rover and parked in PMG's parking spot !
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Seasider9601 » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:27 pm

Ah that was his was it?? Wondered whose that was.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:35 pm

Seasider9601 wrote:Ah that was his was it?? Wondered whose that was.
Was it a rental?
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Freez » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:47 am

Hodgy, I am calm, but don't put my pet name on here!! :lol:
Was just asking on what evidence as it was presented as fact, not a summary of your thoughts, which you now made clear, Pickle! :D
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby mrpotatohead » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:54 am

Well I'm off to see ''Gypsy Oystondale'' at the tower today, might be able to provide more info later.
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Freez » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:04 am

I'm getting a word.......
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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby marky No.1 » Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:51 am

Westgate Wanderer wrote:
Seasider9601 wrote:Ah that was his was it?? Wondered whose that was.
Was it a rental?


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Re: A plea to the true fans

Postby Westgate Wanderer » Tue Nov 08, 2016 8:00 pm

marky No.1 wrote:
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Seasider9601 wrote:Ah that was his was it?? Wondered whose that was.
Was it a rental?


Shiny new motor and staff/suppliers not getting paid always goes down well
Perhaps he traded us in for the car!
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