Jim interview post Crewe

[MfcChris]

Graham Westley is telling Newport they can they win promotion and to go from relegation form to play-off form. As does John Coleman.

Positivity breeds positivity Jim!

[P/T Indie]

Here's a question.

If Jim had money to bring in better players do you think we would play a different style of football that would bring people back to the Globe?

[cragbankshrimp]

Shrimpy.
CC stated " it could be well be a common fault" he didn't say it was.
Racism my arse

[Shrimpy]

Shrimpy.
CC stated " it could be well be a common fault" he didn't say it was.
Racism my arse

Maybe it's just me but I don't tar people with the same brush so to speak based on ethnicity.

[SupermarketShrimp]

Here's a question.

If Jim had money to bring in better players do you think we would play a different style of football that would bring people back to the Globe?

Wins, marketing, a cup run and actually trying to retain your client base will bring them back. We score and concede goals every week, it's not as if you're watching a Tony Pulis side is it.

[SupermarketShrimp]

No disputing the the manager loves OUR club and that he's hurting just like us, but when he mentions that for the opposition it's 'too easy to get down the sides' and 'sitting off teams' then this is a problem that we've seen time after time not only this season put past seasons as well. We've tried various combinations in defence with different players (some still with us and others who have gone) but the problem still remains.

Is it not therefore logical to suggest that it's down to tactics and not down to individuals......

No it's not logical. They know where the problems are, set the team up to combat it and they're not good enough to execute it.

[SupermarketShrimp]

it has been a combination of the club on & off the pitch, which hasn't help matters filling our terraces.

The fans have deserted the terraces due to past management ignoring the fans - which has resulted in our dwindling numbers.

Placing too (if not all to some extent) eggs in the "corporate" basket really has been, and is, our downfall.

Repeated points raised by fans have gone unactioned, unreplied to, and ignored. Hence why people have said "f*** it, if they're not bothered about me who pays my money, why should I be?" and, they've gone. Never to return a lot of them.

Wildboar Steak anyone ??

So what are we going to do about it?

[Morecambe Jack]

Freez is much more positive than me. I stood there at full time and thought "we are going down".

We weren't as bad as we have been recently, at home at least (haven't been to many away games recently) but despite all the effort we are still conceding goals far too easily and we are not creating enough to overcome that.

We hear the same thing after each game every week but nothing is changing. Do you think that a performance of last night's standard every week will keep us in this league? I don't. Crewe were nothing special, had a dire home form, and were there for the taking until said easy goals went in.

We need more than we saw last night if we want to stay up.

[SupermarketShrimp]

What of course isn't happening to encourage fans to have hope is the total lack of anything coming out of the Boardroom and in particular our financial backers based in Qatar.

Many years ago i had experience of working alongside a Saudi company through my employers connections with BAE at Warton. The one thing that was really annoying was the total lack of communication at all levels of the Saudi company. Feedback was non existent. You never knew what they were thinking.

It could well be that it's a common fault with Arabic nations.....

Can suggest it maybe who they are dealing with or their attitude to the Arabic nations. We do a lot of recruitment for the Emirates and find them to do exactly what they say they'll do so long as you keep your end up. In fact they do that to a fault.

[Shrimpy]

Freez is much more positive than me. I stood there at full time and thought "we are going down".

We weren't as bad as we have been recently, at home at least (haven't been to many away games recently) but despite all the effort we are still conceding goals far too easily and we are not creating enough to overcome that.

We hear the same thing after each game every week but nothing is changing. Do you think that a performance of last night's standard every week will keep us in this league? I don't. Crewe were nothing special, had a dire home form, and were there for the taking until said easy goals went in.

We need more than we saw last night if we want to stay up.

I think you're pretty much spot on and from listening to Jim's post game interview I'd say he thinks the same!

To sum it up, we're praying that everything will be sorted out at board level by the start of January and that we can bring in half a dozen players that are better than what we have now. If not then we are doomed.

[Christies Child]

No disputing the the manager loves OUR club and that he's hurting just like us, but when he mentions that for the opposition it's 'too easy to get down the sides' and 'sitting off teams' then this is a problem that we've seen time after time not only this season put past seasons as well. We've tried various combinations in defence with different players (some still with us and others who have gone) but the problem still remains.

Is it not therefore logical to suggest that it's down to tactics and not down to individuals......

No it's not logical. They know where the problems are, set the team up to combat it and they're not good enough to execute it.

IF that is the case then shouldn't we adopt the tactics to suit the players. For me we just operate the same game after game. Too much space in midfield and not tight enough on the wings. Get defending sorted and the type of football that wins games would be a lot easier.

[SupermarketShrimp]

No disputing the the manager loves OUR club and that he's hurting just like us, but when he mentions that for the opposition it's 'too easy to get down the sides' and 'sitting off teams' then this is a problem that we've seen time after time not only this season put past seasons as well. We've tried various combinations in defence with different players (some still with us and others who have gone) but the problem still remains.

Is it not therefore logical to suggest that it's down to tactics and not down to individuals......

No it's not logical. They know where the problems are, set the team up to combat it and they're not good enough to execute it.

IF that is the case then shouldn't we adopt the tactics to suit the players. For me we just operate the same game after game. Too much space in midfield and not tight enough on the wings. Get defending sorted and the type of football that wins games would be a lot easier.

We had 4 full backs last night and we still couldn't manage it.

We are not good enough, that's it

[Wild Bill]

it has been a combination of the club on & off the pitch, which hasn't help matters filling our terraces.

The fans have deserted the terraces due to past management ignoring the fans - which has resulted in our dwindling numbers.

Placing too (if not all to some extent) eggs in the "corporate" basket really has been, and is, our downfall.

Repeated points raised by fans have gone unactioned, unreplied to, and ignored. Hence why people have said "f*** it, if they're not bothered about me who pays my money, why should I be?" and, they've gone. Never to return a lot of them.

Wildboar Steak anyone ??

It is also the crap football as well with losing our last 7 matches why fans refuse to pay the entrance fee. I agree on the other points that the family club has gone right out of the window, which is sad really.

Lets face it, its not just one thing or the other but a combination of the two. PMG has to take ultimate responsibility for the the way he's managed the club since the move to the Globe, but Jim's teams have played their part in our gradual demise. Question is, could another manager turn it around if given the same squad and budget to work with?

[BoroRedShrimp]

Freez is much more positive than me. I stood there at full time and thought "we are going down".

We weren't as bad as we have been recently, at home at least (haven't been to many away games recently) but despite all the effort we are still conceding goals far too easily and we are not creating enough to overcome that.

We hear the same thing after each game every week but nothing is changing. Do you think that a performance of last night's standard every week will keep us in this league? I don't. Crewe were nothing special, had a dire home form, and were there for the taking until said easy goals went in.

We need more than we saw last night if we want to stay up.

Good post & totally agree.

[Seasider9601]

Question is, could another manager turn it around if given the same squad and budget to work with?

No. Not a chance.

Just my opinion.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Question is, could another manager turn it around if given the same squad and budget to work with?

No. Not a chance.

Just my opinion.

I disagree until we have given someone else the chance we won't properly know the answer. Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe is like us with a wafer thin squad but gets on with it by grinding out results. What have we done around getting a new sponsor for the stadium. Why didn't we attract members to user the gym rather than shut it down. These two things along with a long list is why we are in the situation today.

[SupermarketShrimp]

Question is, could another manager turn it around if given the same squad and budget to work with?

No. Not a chance.

Just my opinion.

I disagree until we have given someone else the chance we won't properly know the answer. Gareth Ainsworth at Wycombe is like us with a wafer thin squad but gets on with it by grinding out results. What have we done around getting a new sponsor for the stadium. Why didn't we attract members to user the gym rather than shut it down. These two things along with a long list is why we are in the situation today.

Don't like calling bullshit but here I have to I'm afraid. 22 full time pros (we have 16) and a smattering of loan players, Akinfenwa and the likes of Garry Thompson going to play there instead of coming to play for us, on his doorstep from Kendal and all the history?

Wycombe however, went through financial turmoil and are now trust owned..........

[KenH]

[What have we done around getting a new sponsor for the stadium. Why didn't we attract members to user the gym rather than shut it down. These two things along with a long list is why we are in the situation today.

Why on earth did they build/equip the gym in the first place? Why did they grossly over-spend on the new stadium? We've been racking up losses of several hundred thousand every year, what did they do to turn it around?

Apparent mis-management on and off the pitch since the move has brought the club to it's knees.

Does the academy, the all weather facilities, the function room and boxes actually bring in enough to cover their costs or are these "off the pitch" activities dragging down the club?

I know I keep banging on about it, but we had a once in a lifetime opportunity with the millions from Sainsburys, and it's just been pissed-away. The promised "income generation" of the associated activities to make the club "self sufficient" just hasn't happened. Who actually wanted a gym, hospitality boxes or game steaks in the bar anyway? Just think how it could have been by just spending the bare minimum on some basic, simple stands and a simple site - just like CP was. There'd have been a few million left over and running costs would have been a lot less. But no, it was like letting your kids run riot with a credit card - they saw the cash and just had to spend it on some grand design!

[SupermarketShrimp]

[What have we done around getting a new sponsor for the stadium. Why didn't we attract members to user the gym rather than shut it down. These two things along with a long list is why we are in the situation today.

Why on earth did they build/equip the gym in the first place? Why did they grossly over-spend on the new stadium? We've been racking up losses of several hundred thousand every year, what did they do to turn it around?

Apparent mis-management on and off the pitch since the move has brought the club to it's knees.

Does the academy, the all weather facilities, the function room and boxes actually bring in enough to cover their costs or are these "off the pitch" activities dragging down the club?

I know I keep banging on about it, but we had a once in a lifetime opportunity with the millions from Sainsburys, and it's just been pissed-away. The promised "income generation" of the associated activities to make the club "self sufficient" just hasn't happened. Who actually wanted a gym, hospitality boxes or game steaks in the bar anyway? Just think how it could have been by just spending the bare minimum on some basic, simple stands and a simple site - just like CP was. There'd have been a few million left over and running costs would have been a lot less. But no, it was like letting your kids run riot with a credit card - they saw the cash and just had to spend it on some grand design!

So what are we going to do about it Ken?

[KenH]

So what are we going to do about it Ken?

I'd say that we all must support the efforts to set up the supporters trust. From what I've read, the club has to engage with such a trust, so hopefully that will create a better exchange of information and enable better working together. Ultimately, though, we need something in place that is ready to step in and take over the club if it comes to the worst case scenario, i.e. if the club goes into liquidation/receivership, we need to be ready to take over the land lease, or at least to be able to take action to protect the site if there was ever a proposal to change the usage to sell for housing etc. Basically, we need something in place where the club's owners/board can be challenged.

Over the last 6/8 years, "ordinary" supporters have been sidelined and ignored. The Board have become remote. We need to address that immediately to stop things getting worse. But, the past is the past, PMG and other management were allowed to wreck the club without challenge because there was no "supporter voice". It's taken several years of sleep walking into the current situation.

It's too late to change the results for this season - we, as supporters, can't change things that will change whether we get relegated or not, but we can change the longer term future to help ensure that there remains a club and a stadium in Morecambe.

[SupermarketShrimp]

So what are we going to do about it Ken?

I'd say that we all must support the efforts to set up the supporters trust. From what I've read, the club has to engage with such a trust, so hopefully that will create a better exchange of information and enable better working together. Ultimately, though, we need something in place that is ready to step in and take over the club if it comes to the worst case scenario, i.e. if the club goes into liquidation/receivership, we need to be ready to take over the land lease, or at least to be able to take action to protect the site if there was ever a proposal to change the usage to sell for housing etc. Basically, we need something in place where the club's owners/board can be challenged.

Over the last 6/8 years, "ordinary" supporters have been sidelined and ignored. The Board have become remote. We need to address that immediately to stop things getting worse. But, the past is the past, PMG and other management were allowed to wreck the club without challenge because there was no "supporter voice". It's taken several years of sleep walking into the current situation.

It's too late to change the results for this season - we, as supporters, can't change things that will change whether we get relegated or not, but we can change the longer term future to help ensure that there remains a club and a stadium in Morecambe.

Good man!

I know I'm almost stalking this place at the moment, but there's enough fans that give a shot and I'm trying to mobilise it into some kind of positive movement that supports the club and creates a solution rather than bitch about the clubs numerous and deep problems. This is an amazing club unique to many others and with the right mindset we can get it where it should be - playing league football in front of 3000 a week. I firmly believe we can do this if we work as a collectives

[skeletor]

keith we got a simple stand it is the north terrace! can not get more simple than that

[Christies Child]

So what are we going to do about it Ken?

I'd say that we all must support the efforts to set up the supporters trust. From what I've read, the club has to engage with such a trust, so hopefully that will create a better exchange of information and enable better working together. Ultimately, though, we need something in place that is ready to step in and take over the club if it comes to the worst case scenario, i.e. if the club goes into liquidation/receivership, we need to be ready to take over the land lease, or at least to be able to take action to protect the site if there was ever a proposal to change the usage to sell for housing etc. Basically, we need something in place where the club's owners/board can be challenged.

Over the last 6/8 years, "ordinary" supporters have been sidelined and ignored. The Board have become remote. We need to address that immediately to stop things getting worse. But, the past is the past, PMG and other management were allowed to wreck the club without challenge because there was no "supporter voice". It's taken several years of sleep walking into the current situation.

It's too late to change the results for this season - we, as supporters, can't change things that will change whether we get relegated or not, but we can change the longer term future to help ensure that there remains a club and a stadium in Morecambe.

What a load of bollocks....

So a guy who pumps millions of his own money does it on purpose to wreck his club....

He'd be the first to admit that he's got it wrong sometimes but your belief that he has wrecked the club is simply WRONG....

This constant theme about the miss spent millions is so far from the truth. Remember the banking crisis....

The money from CP was intended to earn interest but due to the crisis it earned SFA... had it earned interest then the stadium would have been as originally planned.

Why do some people always want to revert to the same old same old about the move from CP is beyond me....

To redress the problems at CP and to develop a new stand for commercial revenue would have cost millions. Who would have paid for that... PMcG of course.

[BerlinWaller]

This is what happens when you let an ex Postman build a football stadium and run a Football League club.

[George Dawes]

This is what happens when you let an ex Postman build a football stadium and run a Football League club.

i can see a chomp coming here