THIS IS NOT RIGHT!

[BoroRedShrimp]

Not sure what good a few folk going down to the Globe will do. Yes, folk feel that they need to do something, but I think to get real attention our situation deserves, perhaps some form of demonstration at Doncaster on Saturday? What though can we do to grab attention without being ruining the match for the home fans?

What exactly is a demonstration away from home going to do when probably their may not be anybody from the club their?

[John L]

If you are from a town in the middle of England, you are from the?

...Belly Button of Britain!

[John L]

Not sure what good a few folk going down to the Globe will do. Yes, folk feel that they need to do something, but I think to get real attention our situation deserves, perhaps some form of demonstration at Doncaster on Saturday? What though can we do to grab attention without being ruining the match for the home fans?

What exactly is a demonstration away from home going to do when probably there may not be anybody from the club there?

Yep, and all the majority of Donny fans will care about is another 3 points on the way to League One.

It now seems like the only guy running the show is Rod Taylor, so anyone planning to protest against him is an absolute tool. We need to show SUPPORT for our club!

[Keith]

You are right but its not about what we will be told or not told, its about doing something! I can not get over the attitude of some people on this board.

"Dad, when Morecambe went bust in 2017, what did you lot do about it?"

"F@ck all son, this bloke who lived miles away on an Island said we wouldn't achieve anything so we didn't bother."

More like you'll have to say; "F@ck all son, this bloke who lived miles away on an Island said something, but I didn't bother to actually read it, or if I did, I didn't understand it. Something about being coordinated or something. Not really sure. I just wanted to shout at someone."

"Who did you want to shout at dad?"

"Don't know really. But we did it on a Thursday evening as it was going dark, so not many people were there 'cause East Enders was on the telly that night and some people were still on their way home from work. So six of us stood around and shouted a bit, and carried placards with DOWN WITH THIS KIND OF THING written on them".

If you want another go at reading what I actually wrote instead of assuming it, I've copied it below:

Not saying we shouldn't make our voices heard, but what outcome would you be wanting to achieve?

Venting on a forum is simply that, venting frustration. A coordinated 'event' should have some idea about what it wants to achieve?

Stop Cala? Then what?
Get the 'owners' to talk to us? Get behind the trust and support them.
A general 'protest'? Likely to end in raised frustrations because it can't be 'successful' and is therefore doomed to be a failure at best.
A general 'support'? Perhaps something could be done to be positive while still making it known that we're here. Why not do it on Sunday afternoon, when more people could attend and hold a bucket collection to be distributed directly to staff (assuming no wages arrive over the next couple of days).

Bucket collection on Sunday for unpaid staff would actually have a positive impact on the staff as well as actually being newsworthy. Sunday afternoon could get a few hundred people down instead of a handful.

To expand upon the 'protest will fail' comment, unless you know what you are protesting against, then it can't possibly be a success, therefore, QED it has to fail and 'fans' can be viewed as inconsequential in the future by those who would prefer to treat the fans as inconsequential.

“Alice: Which way should I go?
Cat: That depends on where you are going.
Alice: I don’t know.
Cat: Then it doesn’t matter which way you go.”

Have a gathering, but do it in a planned, coordinated manner, preferably led by the Shrimps Trust. Perhaps get an 'ex-director' or even a 'current director' to address the group. Raise funds (news story) and raise profile of the trust ('come talk to us'). Make it harder for whoever owns the club in the future to ignore us, even if they want to. We have no control over who will own the club, but we certainly need SOMEONE to own it.

Is that a bit clearer?

[shrimper]

I get all this. We know something needs to be done and we're struggling, quite naturally, to understand what we can do to affect things.
That was why I was asking if there's someone who can step in. Football League, PFA - both together? Or someone else.
In my opinion - and I fail to see how anyone can think differently - neither Mr Cala, nor Diego's bunch, should be encouraged to do anything other than go back to wherever they came from.
It's how best to get that to happen. And we need help.

[BoroRedShrimp]

Not sure what good a few folk going down to the Globe will do. Yes, folk feel that they need to do something, but I think to get real attention our situation deserves, perhaps some form of demonstration at Doncaster on Saturday? What though can we do to grab attention without being ruining the match for the home fans?

What exactly is a demonstration away from home going to do when probably there may not be anybody from the club there?

Yep, and all the majority of Donny fans will care about is another 3 points on the way to League One.

It now seems like the only guy running the show is Rod Taylor, so anyone planning to protest against him is an absolute tool. We need to show SUPPORT for our club!

Yes I agree need to support the club through thick & thin by doing our bit by fundraising or whatever around the ground.

[Keith]

In my opinion - and I fail to see how anyone can think differently - neither Mr Cala, nor Diego's bunch, should be encouraged to do anything other than go back to wherever they came from.
It's how best to get that to happen. And we need help.

I agree. But who pays the staff/players/management wages in the mean time? Arguing over ownership could take months to resolve. We need to pay for a coach to South Yorkshire at the weekend.

You know how it is often said that some players love the game so much they'd play for free? Well, we're about to find out on Saturday.

[John L]

Well, fundraising would be a better idea than a demonstration when, as Keith suggests, we don't really know what to demonstrate against... yet!

[BerlinWaller]

You are right but its not about what we will be told or not told, its about doing something! I can not get over the attitude of some people on this board.

"Dad, when Morecambe went bust in 2017, what did you lot do about it?"

"F@ck all son, this bloke who lived miles away on an Island said we wouldn't achieve anything so we didn't bother."

More like you'll have to say; "F@ck all son, this bloke who lived miles away on an Island said something, but I didn't bother to actually read it, or if I did, I didn't understand it. Something about being coordinated or something. Not really sure. I just wanted to shout at someone."

"Who did you want to shout at dad?"

"Don't know really. But we did it on a Thursday evening as it was going dark, so not many people were there 'cause East Enders was on the telly that night and some people were still on their way home from work. So six of us stood around and shouted a bit, and carried placards with DOWN WITH THIS KIND OF THING written on them".

If you want another go at reading what I actually wrote instead of assuming it, I've copied it below:

Not saying we shouldn't make our voices heard, but what outcome would you be wanting to achieve?

Venting on a forum is simply that, venting frustration. A coordinated 'event' should have some idea about what it wants to achieve?

Stop Cala? Then what?
Get the 'owners' to talk to us? Get behind the trust and support them.
A general 'protest'? Likely to end in raised frustrations because it can't be 'successful' and is therefore doomed to be a failure at best.
A general 'support'? Perhaps something could be done to be positive while still making it known that we're here. Why not do it on Sunday afternoon, when more people could attend and hold a bucket collection to be distributed directly to staff (assuming no wages arrive over the next couple of days).

Bucket collection on Sunday for unpaid staff would actually have a positive impact on the staff as well as actually being newsworthy. Sunday afternoon could get a few hundred people down instead of a handful.

To expand upon the 'protest will fail' comment, unless you know what you are protesting against, then it can't possibly be a success, therefore, QED it has to fail and 'fans' can be viewed as inconsequential in the future by those who would prefer to treat the fans as inconsequential.

“Alice: Which way should I go?
Cat: That depends on where you are going.
Alice: I don’t know.
Cat: Then it doesn’t matter which way you go.”

Have a gathering, but do it in a planned, coordinated manner, preferably led by the Shrimps Trust. Perhaps get an 'ex-director' or even a 'current director' to address the group. Raise funds (news story) and raise profile of the trust ('come talk to us'). Make it harder for whoever owns the club in the future to ignore us, even if they want to. We have no control over who will own the club, but we certainly need SOMEONE to own it.

Is that a bit clearer?

To be honest, I normally skip your posts because I find them painfully boring and without knowing you, I find you a bit of a clever dick.

[BerlinWaller]

Well, fundraising would be a better idea than a demonstration when, as Keith suggests, we don't really know what to demonstrate against... yet!

I never mentioned a demonstration, I just feel that as a group of fans we are sat back waiting for the inevitable. I presume Keith made a fantastic point with some lovely words.

[shrimper]

In my opinion - and I fail to see how anyone can think differently - neither Mr Cala, nor Diego's bunch, should be encouraged to do anything other than go back to wherever they came from.
It's how best to get that to happen. And we need help.

I agree. But who pays the staff/players/management wages in the mean time? Arguing over ownership could take months to resolve. We need to pay for a coach to South Yorkshire at the weekend.

You know how it is often said that some players love the game so much they'd play for free? Well, we're about to find out on Saturday.

Yep. There are two battles. One short term, one longer.

[Gone_Shrimping]

If the EFL eject the Calas bid does ownership revert back to Abdul ? And if it does will he then fund the wages and other pressing creditors ?
If all these bids fail does ownership revert back to a reluctant PMG and if it does don't we have the same problem with lack of liquidity.

[George Dawes]

If some of you do go down there tomorrow don't wear Aquascutum scarves and Stone Island caps, you'll just look like knobheads.

dress like this, what do you reckon ?

[halftimeresults]

Every Morecambe fan travelling to Doncaster wait for the team coach to arrive and give them a rousing welcome and I'm sure it would give them a boost.

[John L]

Well, fundraising would be a better idea than a demonstration when, as Keith suggests, we don't really know what to demonstrate against... yet!

I never mentioned a demonstration, I just feel that as a group of fans we are sat back waiting for the inevitable. I presume Keith made a fantastic point with some lovely words.

I was replying to BoroRedShrimp.

[shrimper]

Definitely! Hodgy, great shout!

[John L]

Every Morecambe fan travelling to Doncaster wait for the team coach to arrive and give them a rousing welcome and I'm sure it would give them a boost.

What time do you reckon it'll arrive?

[OmegaTerraceRoar]

My own personal view is that the best thing that we can do is for as many of us as possible to support Jim, Ken and the players at Doncaster on Saturday. Jim and Barry have made a commitment to all of us by saying in interviews that despite what is going on behind the scenes, they have a huge match to prepare for with three crucial points at stake.

Nobody will have forgotten that we may need four more wins just to put us back on 31 points while teams all around us (most with many new signings) will be gaining points while we potentially play catch up.

If you can go to Doncaster on Saturday, and I know for most of us (myself included) it's a big if, then maybe you could also stretch to buying a new hat,scarf, shirt, hoodie from the club shop before you go. I think all replica kit and training kit is at Sale prices with adult replica shirts half price at £20.00

Let's get behind Jim, Ken and the lads if we can, it's the ONE thing we can actually do something about.

Come on you Shrimps.

[halftimeresults]

Every Morecambe fan travelling to Doncaster wait for the team coach to arrive and give them a rousing welcome and I'm sure it would give them a boost.

What time do you reckon it'll arrive?

There is a beefeater outside the ground. We meet in there and get les to ring us when they are 10 minutes away

[John L]

Every Morecambe fan travelling to Doncaster wait for the team coach to arrive and give them a rousing welcome and I'm sure it would give them a boost.

What time do you reckon it'll arrive?

There is a beefeater outside the ground. We meet in there and get les to ring us when they are 10 minutes away

Good shout. We were heading for the Beefeater anyway.

[Keith]

Well, fundraising would be a better idea than a demonstration when, as Keith suggests, we don't really know what to demonstrate against... yet!

I never mentioned a demonstration, I just feel that as a group of fans we are sat back waiting for the inevitable. I presume Keith made a fantastic point with some lovely words.

He never mentioned a "demonstration" he wants a "protest"...

I mentioned it on a previous post but we should sort out some form of protest. We should all head to the ground, make plenty of noise and get some answers! Tell the local press and get some publicity! Who owns a megaphone?

To be honest, I normally skip your posts because I find them painfully boring and without knowing you, I find you a bit of a clever dick.

If you aren't going to read the posts, then it's a bit silly to try and quote them don't you think?

But don't worry, most of the people who know me think I'm a clever dick too.

[Heysham_red]

People act differently in difficult circumstances. I get the idea of a demonstration to show support, it's really honourable. But imagine doing it tomorrow and only a handful of people turn up. It might have the opposite effect. Organise it properly, write on fb and twitter how much you are hurting and how much you care about the club, and the staff. The one thing I'm going to ask is we all stick together. We're all hurting!

[Posh]

Again here is my personal view. I've supported Morecambe for 35 years and had so many good times with people on here it would take a week to give you a fraction of the stories. And that's before we get on to the football and the games, good and bad. I love this club and the pain I'm experiencing is as bad as so many others. I've said we're f***ed since November but I couldn't imagine the scale of the international gangsters hanging around us like vultures. And as someone who went along with the promise of the new ground and the business skills of PMG how utterly underwhelming the vision has been, and worse.

As a result, it is very easy to lash out and suggest ideas to resolve the situation. However I suggest that we've got to be sharper, better organised, better planned, better financed and with more skills at our disposal than these charlatans. Together there's more of us than them, we care more and we want more but our feet are on the ground. Let's get organised. Anyone with skills should contact the Trust now.

[Gnasher]

That was why I was asking if there's someone who can step in. Football League, PFA - both together? Or someone else.

The league can't get involved, at least not until the discussions about Cala are complete.

After reading the interim money comments, I was all for giving the guy a chance. I took that as money to pay wages while the league went through the fit & proper stuff. The way it's panned out, looks like Cala expected the league to sign it all off in 24 hours before the payroll deadline.

Telling Cala to stay away is a sensible and quite right move, they haven't said he's fit & proper to run it yet, but it doesn't mean he's going to be turned down.

At the heart of this are the staff and players so if you want to show anything, it has to be support for them.

[Wild Bill]

Not sure what good a few folk going down to the Globe will do. Yes, folk feel that they need to do something, but I think to get real attention our situation deserves, perhaps some form of demonstration at Doncaster on Saturday? What though can we do to grab attention without being ruining the match for the home fans?

What exactly is a demonstration away from home going to do when probably there may not be anybody from the club there?

Yep, and all the majority of Donny fans will care about is another 3 points on the way to League One.

National press and TV cameras there etc. Not saying we do a Blackpool and have a pitch sit-in but something that grabs the attention.

Has anyone called in 6-0-6 or any other football phone in to spread the word of our situation?

It now seems like the only guy running the show is Rod Taylor, so anyone planning to protest against him is an absolute tool. We need to show SUPPORT for our club!