A tale of two former loanee 'keepers...

[Christies Child]

Whilst Scot Loach was receiving praise for his performance against Chelsea, Joe Lewis was coming in for some stick for his showing in Peterborough's 3-1 home thrashing v Yeovil.

I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis who, of late, appears to have made quite a few bloomers at 'Boro.

[marky]

Just how many variants on a name does that poor guy have?!?! It's Roche

[PUNKISDEAD]

:I have heard it all now

I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis

[Christies Child]

Just how many variants on a name does that poor guy have?!?! It's Roche

Ooops.....

[marky No.1]

:I have heard it all now

I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis

All sounds a bit fishy to me

[Christies Child]

:I have heard it all now

I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis

All sounds a bit fishy to me

[RedRedWine1]

You're talking Codswallop Marky (is this the imminent return of the fish thread?).

Roche has been quality this season, player of the season without a doubt.

[Gnasher]

This thread is going all over the plaice

[ezz]

I've always thought Roche has been as good as Lewis, some performances have even been better!

[Crooky MFC]

Roche is quality, not as good as Lewis though Just!

[Harry]

Saw Loachy's performance on highlights this morning and was very impressed. I think the difference between him and Lewis is that he's been a couple of places on loan, steadily growing into being a good, reliable consistent keeper who can make a quality save when needed. Lewis on the other hand has been overshadowed by the hype, and I think the pressure of being in the England squad, and rumours of big clubs ready to pay 7-figure sums for him has got to him a bit, and he's maybe not quite the player he could have been given his undoubted potential.

But hey, they're both still young lads so let's see where their careers take them. Keepers generally do better when they get a bit older anyway.

[marky No.1]

You're talking Codswallop Marky (is this the imminent return of the fish thread?).

Utter pollocks, you must be green behind the gills if you thought I would do such a thing

Loach is'nt a Fin is he?

[World Cup Willie]

I think Roche is getting batter and batter. At the start of the season he was all at sea and floundering a bit, but it is no fluke that he is come a long way, and is now a quality keepnet.

[PUNKISDEAD]

PEOPLE

I sense a bit of tenchion on this subject, we need to get back to the poster original deluded thoughts!!
BTW who is Mark Fish playing for nowadays??

[james456]

Reelly... no one has picked up that Loach is a type of fish, too?

[PUNKISDEAD]

Is that Loach or Loache

And if you caught the said fish, would you poach it, poche it, or poache it??

[Mighty Red]

And if you caught the said fish, would you poach it, poche it, or poache it??

No, you'd fry it.

Do you get it?

Fry?

Small fish, eh?

[seasonsinthesun]

I don't think Roche would be one to fish for compliments, but he's haddock up to here with the praise he has received this season, when all he wants to do is keep a tight line in front of him and deal with the sprats that come his way.

[james456]

Is that Loach or Loache

And if you caught the said fish, would you poach it, poche it, or poache it??

No, definitely loach. Now stop carping on about it.

[campdave]

Whilst Scot Loach was receiving praise for his performance against Chelsea, Joe Lewis was coming in for some stick for his showing in Peterborough's 3-1 home thrashing v Yeovil.

I'm probably alone in my belief (what's new?) but for me Barry Roach is now on a parr with Joe Lewis who, of late, appears to have made quite a few bloomers at 'Boro.

Dunno, Roche was flapping a bit yesterday, on a couple of occasions came out for balls he had n chance of getting.

He's a great keeper, but I don't feel he communicates with the players in front of him like Lewis did.

[P/T Indie]

Roche has to command his area better for me like dave says he can be very shaky at times however he has improved from the start of the season.

[marky]

There's an acquaintance of mine through a non-football forum who supports Peterborough and has been bemoaning Lewis of late. I've tried to explain how confidence is perhaps more important for a 'keeper than any other player and that talent will show in the end.

[RedRedWine1]

I'm not surprised that both Joe and Barry are performing better here than they have elsewhere. Here they are constantly in the game, at Chesterfield and Peterborough in their current respective divisions I can't see that being the case. The goalkeeping position to me is quite strange, as the gap in quality between the top level of the pyramid and the bottom is perhaps at its most negligible when compared to other areas of the field.

To me the differnce between a good goalkeeper and a great keeper is that a great keeper can not have anything to do all game, and then be called upon to make one save. Being out of the game for long periods can lead to a lack of concentration. Great keepers can be out of the game for 90 minutes yet still make that save. Good keepers may make the mistake that costs the side. David James is a prime expamle. At Watford, Villa, Man City, and Portsmouth he has been very successful, yet for Liverpool and England (sides where you don't expect to be doing as much defending) I don't think you can say he has covered himself in glory.