Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby black morse » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:40 pm

Christies Child wrote:
Morecambe Jack wrote:Fleming offered new deal.

Molyneux released.


Fleming offered a new deal :roll: sounds like it's a backwards step to me...just like his play.

Did nothing last season whilst Moly contributed goals at crucial times.

Terrible decision.... :evil: :evil: :evil:


Unless you know the details of the offer to both players I fail to see how you can judge.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby marky No.1 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:46 pm

I certainly don't agree with it being a terrible decision.
Molly leaving opens the door for Thommo I think.

I like Flemmo, just wished he'd made more progress since he arrived.. I thought we had a gem when he first came on the scene
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Christies Child » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:49 pm

At the end of season 2015 /16 Jimbo said that Fleming had to earn a contract for this coming season.

Considering the number of times he played a full 90 minutes whilst spending a lot of time on the bench in the season just gone, how can it be that he has 'earned' a new contract.... :?: :?: :?:

As already said a backwards move ...or should that be sideways... :evil: :evil: :evil:

Obviously others will have a different viewpoint.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Kendalshrimp » Tue Jun 06, 2017 7:08 pm

Christies Child wrote:At the end of season 2015 /16 Jimbo said that Fleming had to earn a contract for this coming season.

Considering the number of times he played a full 90 minutes whilst spending a lot of time on the bench in the season just gone, how can it be that he has 'earned' a new contract.... :?: :?: :?:

As already said a backwards move ...or should that be sideways... :evil: :evil: :evil:

Obviously others will have a different viewpoint.

Fleming was superb in some games this season and picked up a few MOTM awards from what I can remember. He doesn't score many goals but we're probably not guna attract any better players in that position.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby bill ding » Tue Jun 06, 2017 9:17 pm

BBC sport page strikes again "MORECAMBE RELEASE MOLYNEAUX" with a picture of Aaron Wildig :roll:
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Teams like Morecambe » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:19 am

Right decision in my opinion. Fleming is inconsistent but when he's good he's very good. He produced a number of outstanding performances last season despite not starting many games. Molyneux has been one of Jim's worst signings. The occasional wonder strike does not make up for consistently misplacing short passes. I will be surprised if he plays in the Football League again.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby MfcChris » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:27 pm

Teams like Morecambe wrote:Right decision in my opinion. Fleming is inconsistent but when he's good he's very good. He produced a number of outstanding performances last season despite not starting many games. Molyneux has been one of Jim's worst signings. The occasional wonder strike does not make up for consistently misplacing short passes. I will be surprised if he plays in the Football League again.

Exactly how I feel. Brilliant decision by Jim. Lee is a liability and isn't a game changer.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Seasider9601 » Wed Jun 07, 2017 12:51 pm

MfcChris wrote:
Teams like Morecambe wrote:Right decision in my opinion. Fleming is inconsistent but when he's good he's very good. He produced a number of outstanding performances last season despite not starting many games. Molyneux has been one of Jim's worst signings. The occasional wonder strike does not make up for consistently misplacing short passes. I will be surprised if he plays in the Football League again.

Exactly how I feel. Brilliant decision by Jim. Lee is a liability and isn't a game changer.


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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Christies Child » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:12 pm

Totally respect other SVers points of view and sincerly hope that he proves me wrong.....but :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Phil Anderer » Wed Jun 07, 2017 1:20 pm

Fleming's one of the few we have who'll get stuck in and tackle, even if he is a little over enthusiastic at times. He also works well as a foil for more creative players like Devitt, who seem to bring that bit extra out of him. I know that with a small squad a utility player like Moly is extremely useful, but Flemmo's the better player for us, in my opinion.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby KenH » Wed Jun 07, 2017 6:33 pm

I think Moly's problem was that he was played in too many different positions (often 2 or 3 different positions in the same game), so he never really "gel-led" with the other players around him to form strategic partnerships etc. I said at the time, I thought the same thing happened with Paz when he started going downhill (I remember one game when he played in 4 different positions). It's obviously good to have utility players who can play in several different positions, but it is a double-edged sword as you really lose continuity. The way I saw it, Moly was usually good as a left back (certainly better than Conlan), but never really looked comfortable nor effective in any of the 3 midfield positions he was often played in.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby halfwayprawn » Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:21 am

Trouble with Molly he gave the ball away about 80% of the time.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Christies Child » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:04 am

halfwayprawn wrote:Trouble with Molly he gave the ball away about 80% of the time.



Wonder what the percentages would be for Fleming and his sideways / back passes.... :?: :?: :?:

As somebody posted earleir, promised so much in his earlier years but has stagnated if not gone backwards in recent seasons.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Freez » Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:29 am

OK.
CC you are entitled to your opinion, based on what you see, that's half the games if its home games only. So that's a fair few games.
However, for me, Flemo has again got injured or suspended when in a rich vein of form earlier in the season, and has been MOM more than once.
I agree he can be a frustrating player at times, but other times he is adept at nipping the ball away and starting raids from anywhere.
Daft to get rid of him for me unless we can guarantee getting someone better.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Kendalshrimp » Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:51 am

Freez wrote:OK.
CC you are entitled to your opinion, based on what you see, that's half the games if its home games only. So that's a fair few games.
However, for me, Flemo has again got injured or suspended when in a rich vein of form earlier in the season, and has been MOM more than once.
I agree he can be a frustrating player at times, but other times he is adept at nipping the ball away and starting raids from anywhere.
Daft to get rid of him for me unless we can guarantee getting someone better.

Totally agree with this, flemmo was very good in games this season home and away. You know what your getting from him over a full season and it's good enough for me for him to get another year. Him rose and wildig isn't a bad to have in your centre midfield positions !
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Christies Child » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:45 am

Still need a midfield 'animal' like Yard Dog. Too often our midfield has lost out with an inability to win the 50 50 balls....both on the deck and in the air.
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby John L » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:47 pm

Christies Child wrote:Still need a midfield 'animal' like Yard Dog.


What?!!! :lol:
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby Seasider9601 » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:51 pm

John L wrote:
Christies Child wrote:Still need a midfield 'animal' like Yard Dog.


What?!!! :lol:


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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby halftimeresults » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:52 pm

John L wrote:
Christies Child wrote:Still need a midfield 'animal' like Yard Dog.


What?!!! :lol:

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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby John L » Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:36 pm

Before my time, gentlemen! ;)
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Re: Captain Released, Good Luck with your Future, Murph

Postby halftimeresults » Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:40 pm

He was like our Roy Keane
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