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[sandgrown]

Awful referee and to drop 3 home points against a weak Crawley suggest its going to be a long and possibly disastrous season. No goals in the side. Oliver might win lots of balls in the air but his mobility is poor and he won't score many goals.Whenever we win a free kick the players look like they don't know what to do and haven't practised any moves. Changes are needed if we are to avoid the dreaded r word.

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[Teams like Morecambe]

Not sure what game Keith was watching but from where I was stood we looked shocking. We could have had 15 men and play till Tuesday and we still wouldn't score.

Jim Bentley's excuse bingo should be quite predictable tonight. We are sleepwalking and hoof balling back to the Conference folks, make no mistake about that.

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Horrendous today and at Fleetwood and I would assume the same applies to Exeter.

[John L]

I thought Crawley looked so much better than we did today. They were more organised, they showed more attacking intent and looked like a better coached side than we did. We are going down, no doubt about that.

Ex-Premier League player as a manager might have something to do with it.

[KenH]

If Kev actually did anything wrong, he should be dropped for the rest of the season.

I have to agree. He did nothing until the sending off. He's a liability and his career must be very soon coming to an abrupt end. Shame, really, but Jim is just as much at fault for not managing his wind down and retirement.

[MFC-Manc]

Flemmo and wildig had a decent game. Campbell needs the ball to feet, he is never going to win Anything in the air. Not sure what’s happened to roses magic toes, he looks off the pace.

[BerlinWaller]

I thought Crawley looked so much better than we did today. They were more organised, they showed more attacking intent and looked like a better coached side than we did. We are going down, no doubt about that.

Ex-Premier League player as a manager might have something to do with it.

What difference does that make? That could be the worst attempt at defending Jimbo I have seen on this forum.

[John L]

I thought Crawley looked so much better than we did today. They were more organised, they showed more attacking intent and looked like a better coached side than we did. We are going down, no doubt about that.

Ex-Premier League player as a manager might have something to do with it.

What difference does that make? That could be the worst attempt at defending Jimbo I have seen on this forum.

Not defending anyone! You rightly said they look better coached... they have one who has played at a higher level!

[Keith]

Not sure what game Keith was watching but from where I was stood we looked shocking. We could have had 15 men and play till Tuesday and we still wouldn't score.

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Not sure where I said we weren't shocking. Do either of you want to quote me? I actually said we were "crap". But so were they.

I thought Crawley looked so much better than we did today. They were more organised, they showed more attacking intent and looked like a better coached side than we did. We are going down, no doubt about that.

Really???? You thought Crawley looked anything other than dreadful? Yes, we watched two different games. Crawley could barely make two passes and I'm trying to recall if Barry made a save? Their keeper made a fantastic save in the second half. More organised? More attacking? Yet no shots on goal against a team with ten men for most of the game.

Just to mix some facts in to the opinions, ten men Morecambe had more shots on target (4 to 3) and more corners (7 to 5).

[sandgrown]

So what excuses are going to be trotted out after yet another home defeat?

Am I right that the only sub we made was a defenders a midfielder? If so then pretty meaningless in my opinion.

Until our manager plays a more attacking formation and does away finally with this one up striker in Vadine who needs a partner we'll get nowhere.

Unfortunately it's the same old story of seasons past.

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[George Dawes]

Ex-Premier League player as a manager might have something to do with it.

don't think it's about what level you played at to manage players to play in a certain structure and style to get the best out of what you've got

just look at James Beatie at Accrington Stanley they nose dived and then when Coleman went back business as usual

[Teams like Morecambe]

If Kev actually did anything wrong, he should be dropped for the rest of the season.

I have to agree. He did nothing until the sending off. He's a liability and his career must be very soon coming to an abrupt end. Shame, really, but Jim is just as much at fault for not managing his wind down and retirement.

The comments regarding Kev are laughable. He let's us down once and this is how people react. Even at the age of 75 or whatever he is, he is still our top scorer. He contributes far more than most players over the course of a season and without him we probably wouldn't have made it to ten years in the Football League. The only other time I can remember him getting sent off was away at Cheltenham when he was attacked first so to call him a 'liability' is ridiculous.

[BerlinWaller]

Not sure what game Keith was watching but from where I was stood we looked shocking. We could have had 15 men and play till Tuesday and we still wouldn't score.

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Not sure where I said we weren't shocking. Do either of you want to quote me? I actually said we were "crap". But so were they.

I thought Crawley looked so much better than we did today. They were more organised, they showed more attacking intent and looked like a better coached side than we did. We are going down, no doubt about that.

Really???? You thought Crawley looked anything other than dreadful? Yes, we watched two different games. Crawley could barely make two passes and I'm trying to recall if Barry made a save? Their keeper made a fantastic save in the second half. More organised? More attacking? Yet no shots on goal against a team with ten men for most of the game.

Just to mix some facts in to the opinions, ten men Morecambe had more shots on target (4 to 3) and more corners (7 to 5).

You claim we were worthy of a point but I disagree. We got what we deserved and I thought we made Crawley look a decent side which says more about us than them. Crawley knocked it about better throughout the game and they pressed us constantly. Morecambe resorted to long hoofs and could barely put 3 passes together. The only decent move from a home team was when Old played in Brough who played a great ball to Oliver who muffed it up.

[halfwayprawn]

We were crap


thanks Kev

[Freez]

Poor game, poor ref, daft own goal, silly red card, second week running awful tackle from opposition gets yellow when history says we get a red.
Cant fault the effort, we did create more chances with ten, but some people refuse to see it.

Nobody is happy with what's happening, but surely a knee jerk reaction is a little early?

We are definitely going down??
It's October the 7th for crying out loud, 12 games in, can't believe it!!

Poor game, awful result, but bizarrely a great effort by the home fans.
More of that cannot hurt.

[Gone_Shrimping]

Crowd seemed like more than 1,222.

Very worrying for a Saturday when no Premier League or Championship matches are being played.

This time a year ago we had Barkhuizen flying and Stockton banging goals

[Keith]

The only decent move from a home team was when Old played in Brough who played a great ball to Oliver who muffed it up.

You didn't see the fantastic save from their keeper then?

[BerlinWaller]

The shot from Wildig after a bad pass from Flemmo when he tried a miracle ball to the right instead of feeding Brough on the left?

[Westgate Wanderer]

Crowd seemed like more than 1,222.

Very worrying for a Saturday when no Premier League or Championship matches are being played.

This time a year ago we had Barkhuizen flying and Stockton banging goals

i thought there seemed less than a thousand on today, and watching the game it's only a matter of time untilwe dip below that figure! Crap negative stuff. Is our plan A to not concede and plan be to erm.... aren't we supposed to attack? Gone are the days when you could see our build up play and pressing result in an inevitable goal . Score in a minute?.....couldn't score in a brothel

[George Dawes]

think season ticket holders are counted even if they don't show up, certainly in the seating.

and with the Rain the Home End had extra Berlin Wallers in that stand.

Away End what say 30?

I agree with the above looked less than 1000

[Morecambe Jack]

Poor game, poor ref, daft own goal, silly red card, second week running awful tackle from opposition gets yellow when history says we get a red.
Cant fault the effort, we did create more chances with ten, but some people refuse to see it.

Nobody is happy with what's happening, but surely a knee jerk reaction is a little early?

We are definitely going down??
It's October the 7th for crying out loud, 12 games in, can't believe it!!

Poor game, awful result, but bizarrely a great effort by the home fans.
More of that cannot hurt.

Great effort from the home fans who were not repaid with a good performance. If we start seeing the effort and passion on the pitch that was shown from the fans today, we might start actually winning.

Two terrible sides today and it shows that we are in a relegation battle - forget this nonsense of our league position telling a lie. We can't turn in one good performance a month and draw and think we somehow deserve much more.

[morecambe boy]

Sounded like there was twice that number at times. A great effort from the Home End considering the thin gruel that was being served up!

[paulshrimp]

I listened to Radio Lancashire after the match and Alan Kelly made a point with which I totally agree. He said that the Morecambe management were in the ear of the fourth official all match and he wondered if this was being counter productive. I used to run school and club football teams and I always told the lads that their best friend out there was the referee. If you treat him politely and don't give him nonstop grief then it might help. No referee will deliberately give a wrong decision but if it is 50/50 then, human nature being what it is, there is a better chance that he will give it your way. If you create a positive impression in his mind it certainly cannot do any harm. I realise that professional football is a totally different situation and the decisions of the officials can have far more serious consequences but I think that the general principle still applies. COYS

[Christies Child]

I listened to Radio Lancashire after the match and Alan Kelly made a point with which I totally agree. He said that the Morecambe management were in the ear of the fourth official all match and he wondered if this was being counter productive. I used to run school and club football teams and I always told the lads that their best friend out there was the referee. If you treat him politely and don't give him nonstop grief then it might help. No referee will deliberately give a wrong decision but if it is 50/50 then, human nature being what it is, there is a better chance that he will give it your way. If you create a positive impression in his mind it certainly cannot do any harm. I realise that professional football is a totally different situation and the decisions of the officials can have far more serious consequences but I think that the general principle still applies. COYS

Its every game not just yesterday. Ken is always on at the officials when he gets down from his perch in the Directors seating. I've commented on this numerous times in the past but been accused of badgering Ken. Funny how it takes an ex pro to make such a valid comment.

[black morse]

I can never see the point in badgering/arguing with the 4th official unless it's on a decision he has made. Too much of that and it comes down to intimidation which is definitely counterproductive.

[Gone_Shrimping]

I can never see the point in badgering/arguing with the 4th official unless it's on a decision he has made. Too much of that and it comes down to intimidation which is definitely counterproductive.

And yet Coleman and Bell spend 90 minutes in the 4th officials ear and they get more decisions than us.