O/T David Morris popular again

[shrimperteer]

I wonder how many use food banks that actually don't need them.....

Well the headteacher at West End charges up the mobile phones for parents who have no electricity ! So they get their priorities right , must have the mobile before heat and food.
My parents couldn't afford a telephone in the days when the only phones came from BT but they never relied on the school to feed me or do our washing.
Food banks started in 2004 long before David Morris was an MP and there has always been food banks but they were run by the Salvation Army.

Anyone who can't see that this has got shockingly worse in the last few years needs to take their head out of their arses. The local MP being one of them.
Either he's plain deluded or just an out and out liar.

[Freez]

Both! IMO

[Christies Child]

No one can dispute it's got worse over the years BUT Governments of ALL colours have contributed to the crisis that affects a growing number of families.

There IS a need unfortunately for food banks but my original point of a very small disgusting minority taking advantage however sickening it is, still stands.

My wife and I regularly contribute to food bank collection bins in Sainsburys in Morecambe and Aldi in Kendal, but we both often question if the food is always going to those that need it most....but that doesn't stop us contributing along with a growing number of others, realising how fortunate we both are despite living off our pensions to be able to feed and cloth ourselves without having to resort to the benevolence of others. Some are not as fortunate as ourselves and it must be degrading and upsetting for those who have to rely on the generosity of others.

Maybe it's time that the larger supermarkets in all towns took steps to reduce the price of food stuffs that are passed their sell by dates to 10p as did a store in the Midlands only recently, rather than condemn it to refuse bins which is the norm and is in its self a crime in my opinion.

[Gone_Shrimping]

I wonder how many use food banks that actually don't need them.....

Well the headteacher at West End charges up the mobile phones for parents who have no electricity ! So they get their priorities right , must have the mobile before heat and food.
My parents couldn't afford a telephone in the days when the only phones came from BT but they never relied on the school to feed me or do our washing.
Food banks started in 2004 long before David Morris was an MP and there has always been food banks but they were run by the Salvation Army.

Anyone who can't see that this has got shockingly worse in the last few years needs to take their head out of their arses. The local MP being one of them.
Either he's plain deluded or just an out and out liar.

The question I was addressing was do people who don't need food banks use them ? My answer is yes they do.

This twaddle about schools texting parents is not justification for parents spending money on state of the art mobiles and their running costs instead of feeding their children or paying their electric bills doesn't wash.

If someone opened a beer bank for people who couldn't afford beer how busy would that be ?

[Posh]

No offence but you've written a load of depressingly blinkered shite.

The question I was addressing was do people who don't need food banks use them ? My answer is yes they do.

No they don't. This is how it works:

"Care professionals such as health visitors, schools and social workers identify people in crisis and issue them with a foodbank voucher. This entitles them to receive a foodbank parcel of three days’ nutritionally balanced, non-perishable food".

https://www.trusselltrust.org/what-we-d ... anks-work/

It is regulated and managed by professionals. That's the only way.

Even if there was a minority, so what? May be the biggest problem in society is companies and individuals who in far great proportions avoid their duty to society by evading tax.

This twaddle about schools texting parents is not justification for parents spending money on state of the art mobiles and their running costs instead of feeding their children or paying their electric bills doesn't wash.

This is your utterly biased, unproven and unfounded condescending attack on the poor. You've no evidence that they've got 'state of the art mobiles'. Most are cheap mobiles on pay-as-you-go but you don't want to hear it because it doesn't match your Morrisian attack on the poor.

If someone opened a beer bank for people who couldn't afford beer how busy would that be ?

You've definitely proved how popular the Fact Free Bank is.

[Joel Ninety]

Surprised it took this long for a thread to appear, but I'm glad it did. This whole thing has pissed me right off. All the whataboutery from people whose first response is to dismiss and deflect from what their party has caused/made much worse through their policies. How anyone can defend it or come out with this "in my day we made do with an outside toilet" rubbish is beyond me. If you voted for this government, you're complicit.

David Morris is a disgrace and always has been. This time he's blaming Momentum (irrelevant), attacking Morecambe Bay's headteacher again, threatening parents with visits from social services, and all that's before you get to his questionable expenses and voting record.

These are working parents who can't make ends meet even in full time employment, who are budgeting, who need phones for work or to find more work. Everything you do requires access to the internet now, and for some people a mobile device is the only way to do this. How do you know what phone they have? How do you know they haven't been the victim of some unfortunate circumstances after they acquired a high-end phone with the means to pay for it? Jobs and pensions come and go.

There's going to be more poverty, homelessness and unemployment as we lose more jobs and industry to automation and cheaper international markets.

[Christies Child]

Poverty and the political routes of it have been around for longer than a lot of us elder SVers have lived and are NOT the sole responsibility of one political colour. Underfunding has occurred under every Government and all are guilty, although some will continue to argue otherwise.

[BerlinWaller]

Gone Shrimping, your views are almost as Victorian as Rickets but unfortunately you both still rear your ugly heads.

Working families continue to be demonized by this Government and by people like yourself. God forbid a horrible street urchin might have a TV or a phone eh?

Shame on you Sir!

[Posh]

Poverty and the political routes of it have been around for longer than a lot of us elder SVers have lived and are NOT the sole responsibility of one political colour. Underfunding has occurred under every Government and all are guilty, although some will continue to argue otherwise.

Oh dear. “They’re all as bad as each other”, argument. If it was that simple then why bother voting.

Since 2010 we’ve been under a deliberate policy of austerity, which has deliberately targeted the disabled, those on benefits and the working poor. That’s a fact. Some Tories even relish it. The outcome has seen a decade of falling wages and income at a level we’ve never seen since the Napoleonic era. Fact.

At the same time corporate taxes have fallen dramatically, which has not led to any rise in investment or a rise in productivity. And general taxes for the wealthiest have been cut, be it income tax or inheritance tax. The poor now pay a greater percentage of their income in taxes than the richest.

Again it’s a deliberate policy. To make the rich earn more, reward then. To make the poor earn more, punish them.

This Tory government is destroying the very fabric of our society for ideological means and punishing the majority for the benefit of a select few (£128 million bonus anyone?). It’s time for policies for the many and not the few.

[mrpotatohead]

I think the argument that "they spends their money on the wrong stuff, so they don't deserve food" is appalling, the hungry children have no control over their parents spending, and the "all the parties are as bad as each other" is also shite, and surprise surprise , it's Peter's Child's contribution.

The unemployed who smoke and drink are actually major contributors to our economy as there is a huge amount of tax and vat revenue generated thanks to their spending choices.

[Christies Child]

Cheers mrpotatohead.....your thought provoking contributions are as always ...most welcome....

[Ispyshrimp]

I wonder how many of those who visit food banks actually are working families whom are unable to keep themselves afloat without the help of them, I fear that a good proportion are.
Certain parts of the country are experiencing hard times again and with the level of inflation on the back of low wage rises put further pressure on families.
To be honest this may also have an impact on those attending our games supporting the team who would love to but the cost is too much.
Comments on people claiming benefits often bring various opinions but my own is that there are alot of genuine cases and I would never begrudge anyone in hard ship but I know quite a few who take this piss out of not only ourselves but those low income families out there probably using the food banks whilst their sat at home watching sky TV and on their iPhone 8's, sad but true.
Xmas bring lots of happiness to many people but at the same time those unable to afford Xmas it must be very emotional especially with pressure of childrens gifts this time of year

Sad circumstances which should be supported by our local MP, if he used his brain this would be a great PR stunt but obviously not.

MR Morris support those members of the public which allows you to be in the position you are in, turning you back on those in need is poor example of humanity.

Shocking!!

[ChrisC]

Anyone embarrassed by his billboard at the globe?

I suggested a whip round to give him a refund so we can be rid of it. I am surprised it is allowed by FA rules or is that why it is on the same side as the cameras?

[thedoc]

Well said Posh. Amen to all of it. Ever thought of standing to be our local MP? You've got my vote for a start brother...

[thedoc]

Anyone embarrassed by his billboard at the globe?

I suggested a whip round to give him a refund so we can be rid of it.

Totally agree. Has this gentleman ever actually attended a game?

[Keith]

When Granada Reports ran the story, they said that they'd prepared the item over a few weeks and they'd repeatedly asked Morris for an interview but he'd declined.

Then, after the story broke, he did his 'let them eat cake' piece, during which he said that the first he knew of the story was when it was on TV.

Either the Granada Reports reporter was lying, or the Morecambe & Lunesdale MP was lying.

Wonder who it was lying on TV?

He also accused the heads of being members of Momentum.
One of the heads denied ever being a member of Momentum.
(The other one may have denied it too... I'm not sure)

Either the head is lying, or the Morecambe & Lunesdale MP was lying.

Wonder who was lying?

'I see no poverty' because I'm too busy doing my expenses.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11 ... -while-on/

The second highest expenses of ANY MP, including all of those in Scotland, except the MP for Shetland & Orkney. £76,000 in expenses in 2012??? I wonder what the families living in poverty that he doesn't see, would do with £76k?

https://www.thevisitor.co.uk/news/our-m ... -1-5969836

The then Lancaster MP claimed just over £16k for the same period. Is Morris worth sixty thousand pounds more, in expenses alone?

[Shrimp Girl]

If nothing else, the TV programme and ensuing debate gives one clear reason for low attendances by local families at the Globe. Is there any way the club could offer these families in need a few tickets for a home game, by way of a day out? It wouldn't solve their problems but it would be a bit of a treat. It doesn't have to be anything political on the club's part, just a reach out to the local community, same as when the lads go into the hospital.

I don't know how it could be organised, but if any SVers/Trust members that can afford it put some money in a pot, that goes to buy X number of adult tickets, those adults can then bring however many kids along for free.

And no, I don't know how to ensure that the 'deserving' families get them. Don't care really, I'm no judge. Maybe offer free tickets to the school staff, who could then supervise a group of kids?

[Posh]

If nothing else, the TV programme and ensuing debate gives one clear reason for low attendances by local families at the Globe. Is there any way the club could offer these families in need a few tickets for a home game, by way of a day out? It wouldn't solve their problems but it would be a bit of a treat. It doesn't have to be anything political on the club's part, just a reach out to the local community, same as when the lads go into the hospital.

You make a very good point.

The real income of a lot of people in Morecambe has fallen over the last seven years. Those in the public sector have seen their pay frozen, those on in-work, out-of-work or disability benefits have seen those fall and many jobs have become insecure thanks to zero hours contracts. Some people simply can't afford £22 seating / £17 standing for a game of football, however they may want to come.

[Posh]

Well said Posh. Amen to all of it. Ever thought of standing to be our local MP? You've got my vote for a start brother...

Your very kind to say so. It has crossed my mind but it is the one of the most common jobs to be end up divorced, an alcoholic, assaulted (or even murdered) and to work unsociable hours. The gratitude is the possibility of getting sacked every five years, sometime more frequently, even if you do your job well.

I've stood for local council before but with the full knowledge I was going to lose. That's even more of a crazy job and I've huge respect for those who do it.

[MPHfc]

mmm so many politically uneducated and opinionated. No wonder we are in trouble!!!1

[CityShrimp]

I was certain Morris would be kicked out at the last election and was staggered when he was re-elected. It goes to show that no matter what you do or how bad you are, there will always be a huge following of people who will still vote for you if you wear the right colour tie.

[Freez]

Please enlighten us with your wisdom, oh patronising one?

[Keith]

If nothing else, the TV programme and ensuing debate gives one clear reason for low attendances by local families at the Globe. Is there any way the club could offer these families in need a few tickets for a home game, by way of a day out? It wouldn't solve their problems but it would be a bit of a treat. It doesn't have to be anything political on the club's part, just a reach out to the local community, same as when the lads go into the hospital.

I was thinking something similar. Perhaps the club could give a couple of hundred tickets for the Stevenage game to be distributed via the food bank. As was said, it could bring some clear to families who wouldn't be able to attend the match anyway.

[Keith]

mmm so many politically uneducated and opinionated. No wonder we are in trouble!!!1

Pretty much exactly the same qualifications are required to post on here as to be elected as an MP. Yeah... you might be right!

[HALMA 1983]

Pretty simple really, Morris was only elected because most folk didin't want Labour in and I'd of voted for the devil had he stood to avoid that happening